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legendary
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June 05, 2020, 07:06:20 PM
#23
As far as I know, sa mga proposal, meron silang tinatawag na One-way and Two-way bridge para ma accomplished ang migration.

One-way Bridge:



Two-way Bridge:



https://docs.ethhub.io/ethereum-roadmap/ethereum-2.0/eth-1.0-to-2.0-migration/

Marami talagang challenges na kinakaharap itong migration na to at marami ring mata ang nakamasid at naka bantay. Marami talagang validators na at for sure lalago pa yang numero na yan.
legendary
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June 05, 2020, 02:35:07 AM
#22
^ Diretso din ako agad sa dulo para hanapin conclusion eh  Grin Medyo may pagka-hard sell yung dulo kaya pinagtiyagaan ko na lang basahin ng mabilisan.

Basically, inulit lang nila yung mga nabanggit na noon. Very ambitious talaga ang eth2 at patuloy pa din ang experimentation nila hanggang ngayon. I say they are in a unique situation and I can see why they are very careful in with the migration and upgrade. Siguro kung hindi tayo nasanay sa ibang mabilisang chain migrations at updgrades, mas matatanggap natin yung mga delays.

Phase 1.5 is what interest me the most

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Phase 1.5 is the integration of Ethereum mainnet into the new eth2 consensus mechanism as a shard (existing as one of the many shards created in Phase 1). Instead of the Ethereum we know and love being built by a proof-of-work mining algorithm, it will be built by the eth2 validators. For existing applications and users, this hot swap of the consensus mechanism will largely be transparent. Applications will continue chugging along, but developers will now have a much more powerful system to build on (better security properties, proper economic finality, more layer 1 data for rollups and other fun applications).

I wonder how they'll migrate those data from the mainnet into one shard?



Anyway, good news here for eth supporters is nasa 39K+ na yung validators sa beacon chain (phase 0) testnet.


source

Para sa mga interesado sa monitoring ng iba pang stats, this might interest you as well https://beacon.etherscan.io/statistics
legendary
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June 04, 2020, 05:45:16 PM
#21
https://blog.ethereum.org/2020/06/02/the-state-of-eth2-june-2020/

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Eth2 is a huge undertaking to provide an upgraded, next-generation, highly-scalable and secure, decentralized consensus to Ethereum. There are dozens of teams and hundreds of individuals working each day to make this a reality. The path we’ve chosen is difficult, but immense progress has and continues to be made.

The core of this new mechanism is just around the corner.

If you’re an aspiring validator, now is the time to dig in. Support the multi-client paradigm by trying out multiple clients, and help instill a strong base of rich client diversity from eth2’s genesis.

If you’re a user or dapp developer, keep pushing on Ethereum today while we continue to prepare this more secure and scalable context for you. When the time comes, the swap to eth2 will be as seamless as possible.

Thank you to the incredible teams and individuals keeping Ethereum alive and well today; thank you to all those of you preparing for Ethereum’s future in eth2; and thank you to all the users and developers that make Ethereum awesome

Medyo mahaba habang basahin,  pero magandang intindihin kung ano na nangyayari sa likod ng eth2 ang kung ano ang aasahan natin. Posibleng nandyan narin ang dahilan kung bakit nagka delay delay sila in the past. At baka masagot na rin kung mga tanong natin dyan sa article na to.
sr. member
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June 01, 2020, 06:34:19 AM
#20
Isang taon na tong ETH 2.0 version na to pero hanggang ngayon wala pam ding malinaw na balita kung kelan talaga to lalabas.

Nakakasawa ng maghintay tsaka ok namana ko sa ETH holdings ko kahit gaano pa katagal kaya bakit ko pa kailangang hintayin to at mabuwisit kung etong Halving ng Bitcoin ay sapat na apra pagalawin sa maganda ang presyo ng mga coins soon?
legendary
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May 28, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
#19
^^ Ang nangyari kasi eh ang mga social media related sites eh parang ni spin ang sinabi ni Vitalik, kaya parang lumabas na may sinabi syang July. Kaya was masyado magpapaniwala sa mga sites na yan, check nyo kung may mga official twitter account. Siyempre ayaw naman talaga nating malamang na may delay na naman, kaya wala tayong magagawa kundi mag antay talaga kung kayang i meet ang so called July schedule.
hero member
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May 28, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
#18
Does it mean another waiting time for us, it's coming from the founder already, he does not confirm it will be in July but in some article they said it's gonna be in July, I think we need to be more careful next time and don't just rely on the article we read online.


^^ I do hope so kabayan. But it seems there are some disconnect between Afri Schoedon, Ethereum testnet coordinator and Vitalik himself as far as the "July" timing. Perhaps they need to sit down and talk and be on the same page.



https://twitter.com/a4fri/status/1260140593717575681



Mas maganda naman yan madelay kesa magmadali at makitaan na naman ng maraming bugs ....

Sa tagal na nito, sana ma launch na dahil maraming beses na itong na delay.
hero member
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May 26, 2020, 10:42:18 PM
#17
Mas maganda naman yan madelay kesa magmadali at makitaan na naman ng maraming bugs especially pagdating sa security issues since magupgrade sila sa pos at yung main problem nila na scalability ayaw niyo niyan mas matagal ma-launch mas maganda gaya sa mga katulad ko na nag-iipon palang ng 32 eth para makasali sa staking passive income to kapag bumalik sa ATH ang price nito kahit mga $1k/eth panalo na yan kung makasali ka sa staking kung pagbabasehan natin itong calculator pwede na to. https://www.stakingrewards.com/asset/ethereum-2-0/calculate   
hero member
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May 25, 2020, 08:54:33 PM
#16
Matagal na rin napapag usapan itong upgrade pero ilang beses ng na delay. Ang mga may hawak ng eth tulad ko umaasa na sa event na ito magkakaron ng pagbabago sa price at hindi natin kailangan mag rely lang sa bitcoin kung aangat o bababa ang value.

Sa tingin ko naman kung matuloy ang pag launch ng eth 2.0 magkakaron ito ng impact sa value, $300 ok na sakin.
hero member
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May 24, 2020, 12:01:46 PM
#15
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Bull-eyes, sa dami ng delays nitong ETH 2.0, parang nakakawalan na ng gana. Antay tayo ng antay tapos biglang sasabihin postponed dahil inaayos at pinapaganda pa nila at gusto nila walang bugs.

Kaya siguro muna tingin na lang natin ang susunod na kabanata at alam naman natin na pag may hype talaga tumataas at nag pu-pump ang mga price.
Hindi din maganda ing epekto ng delay kasi ung hype sana na create ng mga investors na nagaantay ay malaking tulong para mataas ung presyo.

Pero dahil sa padelay delay nila ung pwedeng feedback na maganda pumapangit kasi madami na ung nadidisapoint. Dapat early this year payun na launch eh,masiyadong mahaba na ung panahon na nasayang.
legendary
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May 23, 2020, 07:38:35 PM
#14
^^ I do hope so kabayan. But it seems there are some disconnect between Afri Schoedon, Ethereum testnet coordinator and Vitalik himself as far as the "July" timing. Perhaps they need to sit down and talk and be on the same page.



https://twitter.com/a4fri/status/1260140593717575681
hero member
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May 22, 2020, 10:22:51 AM
#13
Ah, Oo posible rin yang dahilan na yan, baka inaantay ng bitcoin halving baka nila ilabas ang ETH 2.0. Kasi alam naman nating may trickle effect talaga ang halving sa altcoin market. Pero kung solid naman ang new release nila bat aantayin pa?
Bakit hindi, if it will generate more hype then it will make the release more successful, even the other popular coins in the market now are always looking for the right timing to release whatever their development, in the hope that it will bring more success... In the case of ETH, I think they have already reviewed everything that is needed to ensure the success of the launch, but like I said they are looking for the right timing.

Ang problema nga lang talaga ng mga tao sa likod ng ETH eh mahilig silang maglabas ng date na hindi naman talaga achievable, paasa, kaya biglang mag pump ang price then patay na naman. Sana nga matuloy na nitong July, otherwise baka mag suffer ulit ang price at mag move out na muna ang mga investors ng ETH.

They can't make mistakes after mistakes, this will not help their future, they are still one if not the most popular altcoin in the market, they need to maintain that reputation, they will make it this time, I'm a bit confident about that.
legendary
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May 21, 2020, 07:26:19 PM
#12
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Bull-eyes, sa dami ng delays nitong ETH 2.0, parang nakakawalan na ng gana. Antay tayo ng antay tapos biglang sasabihin postponed dahil inaayos at pinapaganda pa nila at gusto nila walang bugs.

Kaya siguro muna tingin na lang natin ang susunod na kabanata at alam naman natin na pag may hype talaga tumataas at nag pu-pump ang mga price.
Medyo nakakadisappoint naman talaga ang mga announcement nila and maraming umasa sa update, pero ngayon na nagannounce na naman sila sana naman ay matuloy na talaga ito, and maging smooth and pag run ng update.

Kagayan ng hype sa bitcoin halving, maari rin itong mangyari kay ETH kaya be prepared and ok naren na meron kang ETH kase good for long term naman ito.

Yun din ang iniisip ko dahil parang tinaming din ng ETH devs ang pag launch, hinintay muna nila ang halving dahil sa hype maraming mag invest so may chance na rin na maging bullish ang market after halving. So by July, dapat ma launch na ang ETH 2.0, at for me nasa 90% ako na matutuloy ito.

Ah, Oo posible rin yang dahilan na yan, baka inaantay ng bitcoin halving baka nila ilabas ang ETH 2.0. Kasi alam naman nating may trickle effect talaga ang halving sa altcoin market. Pero kung solid naman ang new release nila bat aantayin pa?

Ang problema nga lang talaga ng mga tao sa likod ng ETH eh mahilig silang maglabas ng date na hindi naman talaga achievable, paasa, kaya biglang mag pump ang price then patay na naman. Sana nga matuloy na nitong July, otherwise baka mag suffer ulit ang price at mag move out na muna ang mga investors ng ETH.
hero member
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May 20, 2020, 11:23:04 PM
#11
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Bull-eyes, sa dami ng delays nitong ETH 2.0, parang nakakawalan na ng gana. Antay tayo ng antay tapos biglang sasabihin postponed dahil inaayos at pinapaganda pa nila at gusto nila walang bugs.

Kaya siguro muna tingin na lang natin ang susunod na kabanata at alam naman natin na pag may hype talaga tumataas at nag pu-pump ang mga price.
Medyo nakakadisappoint naman talaga ang mga announcement nila and maraming umasa sa update, pero ngayon na nagannounce na naman sila sana naman ay matuloy na talaga ito, and maging smooth and pag run ng update.

Kagayan ng hype sa bitcoin halving, maari rin itong mangyari kay ETH kaya be prepared and ok naren na meron kang ETH kase good for long term naman ito.

Yun din ang iniisip ko dahil parang tinaming din ng ETH devs ang pag launch, hinintay muna nila ang halving dahil sa hype maraming mag invest so may chance na rin na maging bullish ang market after halving. So by July, dapat ma launch na ang ETH 2.0, at for me nasa 90% ako na matutuloy ito.
sr. member
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May 20, 2020, 10:36:55 PM
#10
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Bull-eyes, sa dami ng delays nitong ETH 2.0, parang nakakawalan na ng gana. Antay tayo ng antay tapos biglang sasabihin postponed dahil inaayos at pinapaganda pa nila at gusto nila walang bugs.

Kaya siguro muna tingin na lang natin ang susunod na kabanata at alam naman natin na pag may hype talaga tumataas at nag pu-pump ang mga price.
Medyo nakakadisappoint naman talaga ang mga announcement nila and maraming umasa sa update, pero ngayon na nagannounce na naman sila sana naman ay matuloy na talaga ito, and maging smooth and pag run ng update.

Kagayan ng hype sa bitcoin halving, maari rin itong mangyari kay ETH kaya be prepared and ok naren na meron kang ETH kase good for long term naman ito.
legendary
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May 20, 2020, 10:10:12 PM
#9
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Bull-eyes, sa dami ng delays nitong ETH 2.0, parang nakakawalan na ng gana. Antay tayo ng antay tapos biglang sasabihin postponed dahil inaayos at pinapaganda pa nila at gusto nila walang bugs.

Kaya siguro muna tingin na lang natin ang susunod na kabanata at alam naman natin na pag may hype talaga tumataas at nag pu-pump ang mga price.
hero member
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May 20, 2020, 09:59:44 PM
#8
Sana naman hinde na madelay itong update na ito at naniniwala ako na magbibigay ito ng magandang impact kay ETH and maybe, the hype will appear and the price will go up so better to store more ETH now. Actually, magandang altcoin naman talaga si ETH and hodlers na ako nito ever since at umaasa ako na aabot muli ang price nito sa $500 at the end of the year. The price is still unpredictable pero as long as may upgrade on every project, magbibigay ito ng magandang impact.

Siguro titiyakin na nila yan this year, minsan na itong na delay sa pagkakaalam ko,, if they will do it again, I don't know what would happen to ETH.

says here : https://www.coindesk.com/vitalik-buterin-says-much-delayed-ethereum-2-0-still-on-track-for-july-launch

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Vitalik Buterin Says Much-Delayed Ethereum 2.0 Still on Track for July Launch

he admitted that it's already much delayed, but assures it will be launch in July, that's a good news but let's see if it will happen of course.
anyway hopefully the hype will start building now.
sr. member
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May 20, 2020, 09:02:09 PM
#7
Sana naman hinde na madelay itong update na ito at naniniwala ako na magbibigay ito ng magandang impact kay ETH and maybe, the hype will appear and the price will go up so better to store more ETH now. Actually, magandang altcoin naman talaga si ETH and hodlers na ako nito ever since at umaasa ako na aabot muli ang price nito sa $500 at the end of the year. The price is still unpredictable pero as long as may upgrade on every project, magbibigay ito ng magandang impact.
hero member
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May 20, 2020, 08:47:53 AM
#6
Per this blog, https://blog.bitmex.com/ethereum-2-0/

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Abstract: We examine Ethereum 2.0, which is set to launch as early as July 2020, assuming there are no further delays.



What do you think will be the result ETH in the market?

ETH has been dumped hard in the past, maari bang itong ETH 2.0 ay ang chance para naman umangat ang ETH?
Kung sa tingin nyu aangat, anong target price ninyo?
Naniniwala ako an maari din ito pag mulan ng pag taas ng presyo ng Ethereum. Pero mast malaki tyansa nya tumaas kung taas and BTC sa presyong 20k$ kasi yung ethereum nuon eh umabot ito lagpas 1k$ ang isa. sa pananaw ko naka depend parin kay btc ang pag taas ng mga coins at altcoins

Tama yan, kaya kailangan na mag pump ang bitcoin para mas may full confident ang mga tao na mag invest sa ETH.
Alam naman natin na kahit gaano pa kaganda ang development ng altcoins kung hindi naman bullish si bitcoin, wala pa rin effect.

imagine mo lang ang dominant rate ni bitcoin na nasa 67% now, the rest non ay sa lahat ng altcoins na.. so mahihirapan talaga.
copper member
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May 16, 2020, 11:59:19 PM
#5
Per this blog, https://blog.bitmex.com/ethereum-2-0/

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Abstract: We examine Ethereum 2.0, which is set to launch as early as July 2020, assuming there are no further delays.



What do you think will be the result ETH in the market?

ETH has been dumped hard in the past, maari bang itong ETH 2.0 ay ang chance para naman umangat ang ETH?
Kung sa tingin nyu aangat, anong target price ninyo?
Naniniwala ako an maari din ito pag mulan ng pag taas ng presyo ng Ethereum. Pero mast malaki tyansa nya tumaas kung taas and BTC sa presyong 20k$ kasi yung ethereum nuon eh umabot ito lagpas 1k$ ang isa. sa pananaw ko naka depend parin kay btc ang pag taas ng mga coins at altcoins
hero member
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May 16, 2020, 06:40:19 AM
#4
ETH has been dumped hard in the past, maari bang itong ETH 2.0 ay ang chance para naman umangat ang ETH?
Oo naman. Ganyan talaga kapag may mga updates at mas profitable yang update na gagawin ng ETH kasi nga magbibigay yan ng passive income sa mga ETH holders hangga't eligible ka naman sa 32 ETH o kaya sasali ka sa mga pools na pwede kang dumagdag. Pero may risk pa rin yan at yun nga yung pag dump pa rin ng price niya. Masyado kasing excited tayong lahat kaya hangga't maaga bili na sa mas mababang presyo at mag isip ng presyo kung kailan ka mag benta o kung gusto mo i-keep nalang para sa staking niya.

Kung sa tingin nyu aangat, anong target price ninyo?
Baka babalik siya sa $500. Ayaw ko muna isipin yung mga tipong $1k pataas, masyado kasing greedy na kapag ganun.
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