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March 28, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
#27
@Spoetnik

I agree with you but there is no reason to get your grandma to read the "long winded Ripple rant" unless she is interested in becoming a "fucking" market maker.  Ripple isn't like all the other altcoins Wink Your grandma doesn't need to touch XRP for it to become successful. Ripple's focus/audience is the financial industry/market makers and XRP serves as a bridge currency for cross boarder transactions.

Predictable.

Why is it here and added to exchanges where literally no joke small children 12 years old are
actually literally trading their lunch money for profits with ETH or Ripple or other tech-schemes ?

I baited you in a way.. i knew damn well one of you would say that when i made my comment.
I said.. "Enjoy your circle jerk" <-- a pre-reply in advance for your obligatory retort LOL
Get it ?

Because if Ripple or ETH etc is targeted and designed for Banks then guess what ?
90% of the shit that comes out of these mouths here are complete garbage lies.
How can you say stuff like THAT ? (ETH taking over BTC)

Let's dig further shall we ?
(Let me continue the discussion of what is said vs reality)

IBM

On Poloniex i kept seeing a guy saying ETH was "USED" by Microsoft and IBM on a regular basis.
I politeley talked to the guy about it in a casual manner and had said it's not being technically "used"
..not the way you are portraying it anyway.
Before long i was banned again.
Poloniex mod's hang around like soldiers guarding their sleazy deceptive walled garden exchange platform
constantly grooming their victims.. if someone posts something misleading, deceptive or outright dishonest
they will hit the auto-message button that says "Do your research before buying etc"
If you as a chat user dispute any of it.. YOU ARE BANNED !
This is grooming their victims like a fucking child molester.
I have watched them do that shit for years and have been banned lots.. even when i bend over backwards trying to avoid it.
Many times they have gotten snotty and said i deserve to be trolled then banned me again later.
I don't have any respect for them at all.

IBM + ETH though..
The guy was saying it was "Used" by IBM.. clearly implying Ethereum had some bright future and we should BUY some !
I asked that chronic spammer / hyper so are the coins here at Poloniex connected in anyway
or will they ever be to the Testing IBM is doing ? ..he said NO !
So i said well duh then.. what the hell good does telling us all word for word "IBM is USING Ethereum" ?
Talk about deceptive "marketing" (chat box spam)
I was told that IBM was doing a private testing of the ETH system etc (so it was closed off from the outside world)
The same guy was also constantly telling everyone you better buy some ETH because..
"Microsoft is USING Ethereum" also !
Then i found out that in reality all they did is get permission to host their block chain bullshit on "Azure"
This is pure fraud.. sanctioned by poloniex staff !

So who was saying that ? Look around Bitcointalk and guess LOL

So what is the big point here ?
I said years ago now with Ripple that it's scammy pile of gay bullshit.
And this "It's used by banks" crap is pure nonsense.
Why ?
In order for a bank to implement the Ripple or ETH system they will have to BUY / PURCHASE "digital tokens"
and will any Bank Executive think hey i read the Bitcointalk ANN topic and know what ?
We're going to buy millions & Billions of dollars worth of some shitty ass scammy "IPO"/ICO" scam token ?

The bottom line is if any bank is going to "USE" one of these scammy shitty IPO coins
they have to BUY the bags of these IPO starters.. how likely is that ?
0% chance.. get fucking real !

What would a Bank do ?
Well guess what i heard later when the IBM spammer stopped mentioning IBM + ETH ?
I said so.. what happened ?
He said well,
they evaluated the ETH system then decided to build their own block-chain based system and then abandoned ETH !

Ah HA !  Cheesy

Can you boys smell the coffee yet ?

Welcome to the community @countdowntodisappointment
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March 22, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
#26
Lets see how thats coming along
sr. member
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March 21, 2016, 01:14:22 PM
#25
You are about as creative as the developers I work with. Nothing wrong with it but as a creative director, I don't want to get into the details.  I idolize your skills as a programmer and as most great programmers your design and creative skills must suffer some (otherwise I wouldn't be able to get a job) Wink

Dude, I just designed a logo for my new crypto project which will make you eat your words.

Also look at the "Print Ad" (which I designed) that appears under the "Founder/Co-Founder" section of my career history:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelby-moore-iii-b31488b0

You seem to focus on the past/present and avoid where things are headed.

You will eat your words when you come to discover the multiple page version (which I just completed today) of the early initial draft of the "Mission Statement" for my crypto project.
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March 20, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
#24
Actually that opinion can't be taken so seriously, because it comes from an Ripple enthusiast, and that is why this analysis loses its objective component. Of course he will back the ripple echosystem all the time.  Grin

I am actually Bitcoin/Ripple enthusiast but I am starting second guess my position after this conversation. Everyone tried telling me but I didn't believe the Bitcoin community was backed by a bunch of fucktards until now.
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March 20, 2016, 06:06:46 PM
#23
Actually that opinion can't be taken so seriously, because it comes from an Ripple enthusiast, and that is why this analysis loses its objective component. Of course he will back the ripple echosystem all the time.  Grin
hv_
legendary
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Clean Code and Scale
March 20, 2016, 05:12:30 PM
#22

Microsoft is running everything, they think to have a chance for being interesting in the future. Similar approach as Google running a host of "experimental" services and letting the less popular services to die. So the MS running something is a nice to have thing but not really important.

Haha, yes one should start a topic like 'Google is accepting Bitcoin' and that is correct since any search for  'Bitcoin' is accepted and delivers lots of hits.. Grin
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
March 20, 2016, 05:06:28 PM
#21
@Snail what is "Azure" ?  Grin

@pimpjuice
I started a topic months ago on "Masturbation" in off-topic you may want to check out.

And i did address the topic.. "ETH is better than.."

Let me ask you guys who defend these IPO/ICO "schemes"
Do you feel fine buying stolen property ?
No ?
Well why is it you guys gloss over the scammy distribution methods and rail on about them
being "good" though or saying "ya but, but.. i made profit off them" etc?

Don't you love my new Bike ? It's great huh ?
Is it stolen you ask ?
Oh well err uhhh.. It has 21 speeds though!
And.. i got it CHEAP $$$

THAT is your endless argument summarized around here guys.

People justifying bad behavior ..poorly.

The scammy IPO ends do not justify the ICO means!

EDIT:
ETH is better than.. 0
legendary
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March 20, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
#20

Microsoft is running everything, they think to have a chance for being interesting in the future. Similar approach as Google running a host of "experimental" services and letting the less popular services to die. So the MS running something is a nice to have thing but not really important.
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March 20, 2016, 03:44:45 PM
#19
@Spoetnik

I agree with you but there is no reason to get your grandma to read the "long winded Ripple rant" unless she is interested in becoming a "fucking" market maker.  Ripple isn't like all the other altcoins Wink Your grandma doesn't need to touch XRP for it to become successful. Ripple's focus/audience is the financial industry/market makers and XRP serves as a bridge currency for cross boarder transactions.

Predictable.

Why is it here and added to exchanges where literally no joke small children 12 years old are
actually literally trading their lunch money for profits with ETH or Ripple or other tech-schemes ?

I baited you in a way.. i knew damn well one of you would say that when i made my comment.
I said.. "Enjoy your circle jerk" <-- a pre-reply in advance for your obligatory retort LOL
Get it ?

Because if Ripple or ETH etc is targeted and designed for Banks then guess what ?
90% of the shit that comes out of these mouths here are complete garbage lies.
How can you say stuff like THAT ? (ETH taking over BTC)

Let's dig further shall we ?
(Let me continue the discussion of what is said vs reality)

IBM

On Poloniex i kept seeing a guy saying ETH was "USED" by Microsoft and IBM on a regular basis.
I politeley talked to the guy about it in a casual manner and had said it's not being technically "used"
..not the way you are portraying it anyway.
Before long i was banned again.
Poloniex mod's hang around like soldiers guarding their sleazy deceptive walled garden exchange platform
constantly grooming their victims.. if someone posts something misleading, deceptive or outright dishonest
they will hit the auto-message button that says "Do your research before buying etc"
If you as a chat user dispute any of it.. YOU ARE BANNED !
This is grooming their victims like a fucking child molester.
I have watched them do that shit for years and have been banned lots.. even when i bend over backwards trying to avoid it.
Many times they have gotten snotty and said i deserve to be trolled then banned me again later.
I don't have any respect for them at all.

IBM + ETH though..
The guy was saying it was "Used" by IBM.. clearly implying Ethereum had some bright future and we should BUY some !
I asked that chronic spammer / hyper so are the coins here at Poloniex connected in anyway
or will they ever be to the Testing IBM is doing ? ..he said NO !
So i said well duh then.. what the hell good does telling us all word for word "IBM is USING Ethereum" ?
Talk about deceptive "marketing" (chat box spam)
I was told that IBM was doing a private testing of the ETH system etc (so it was closed off from the outside world)
The same guy was also constantly telling everyone you better buy some ETH because..
"Microsoft is USING Ethereum" also !
Then i found out that in reality all they did is get permission to host their block chain bullshit on "Azure"
This is pure fraud.. sanctioned by poloniex staff !

So who was saying that ? Look around Bitcointalk and guess LOL

So what is the big point here ?
I said years ago now with Ripple that it's scammy pile of gay bullshit.
And this "It's used by banks" crap is pure nonsense.
Why ?
In order for a bank to implement the Ripple or ETH system they will have to BUY / PURCHASE "digital tokens"
and will any Bank Executive think hey i read the Bitcointalk ANN topic and know what ?
We're going to buy millions & Billions of dollars worth of some shitty ass scammy "IPO"/ICO" scam token ?

The bottom line is if any bank is going to "USE" one of these scammy shitty IPO coins
they have to BUY the bags of these IPO starters.. how likely is that ?
0% chance.. get fucking real !

What would a Bank do ?
Well guess what i heard later when the IBM spammer stopped mentioning IBM + ETH ?
I said so.. what happened ?
He said well,
they evaluated the ETH system then decided to build their own block-chain based system and then abandoned ETH !

Ah HA !  Cheesy

Can you boys smell the coffee yet ?


The only person you "baited" is yourself which in a way makes you the master baiter in your one man circle jerk. <-- Get it?

Did you not get the main point of this thread?
"So PLEASE STOP comparing Ethereum to Bitcoin and Ripple."

And what do you do... you attempt cover up your lack of knowledge for Ripple by ranting about Ethereum. 
 
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March 20, 2016, 02:48:15 PM
#18
@Spoetnik

I agree with you but there is no reason to get your grandma to read the "long winded Ripple rant" unless she is interested in becoming a "fucking" market maker.  Ripple isn't like all the other altcoins Wink Your grandma doesn't need to touch XRP for it to become successful. Ripple's focus/audience is the financial industry/market makers and XRP serves as a bridge currency for cross boarder transactions.

Predictable.

Why is it here and added to exchanges where literally no joke small children 12 years old are
actually literally trading their lunch money for profits with ETH or Ripple or other tech-schemes ?

I baited you in a way.. i knew damn well one of you would say that when i made my comment.
I said.. "Enjoy your circle jerk" <-- a pre-reply in advance for your obligatory retort LOL
Get it ?

Because if Ripple or ETH etc is targeted and designed for Banks then guess what ?
90% of the shit that comes out of these mouths here are complete garbage lies.
How can you say stuff like THAT ? (ETH taking over BTC)

Let's dig further shall we ?
(Let me continue the discussion of what is said vs reality)

IBM

On Poloniex i kept seeing a guy saying ETH was "USED" by Microsoft and IBM on a regular basis.
I politeley talked to the guy about it in a casual manner and had said it's not being technically "used"
..not the way you are portraying it anyway.
Before long i was banned again.
Poloniex mod's hang around like soldiers guarding their sleazy deceptive walled garden exchange platform
constantly grooming their victims.. if someone posts something misleading, deceptive or outright dishonest
they will hit the auto-message button that says "Do your research before buying etc"
If you as a chat user dispute any of it.. YOU ARE BANNED !
This is grooming their victims like a fucking child molester.
I have watched them do that shit for years and have been banned lots.. even when i bend over backwards trying to avoid it.
Many times they have gotten snotty and said i deserve to be trolled then banned me again later.
I don't have any respect for them at all.

IBM + ETH though..
The guy was saying it was "Used" by IBM.. clearly implying Ethereum had some bright future and we should BUY some !
I asked that chronic spammer / hyper so are the coins here at Poloniex connected in anyway
or will they ever be to the Testing IBM is doing ? ..he said NO !
So i said well duh then.. what the hell good does telling us all word for word "IBM is USING Ethereum" ?
Talk about deceptive "marketing" (chat box spam)
I was told that IBM was doing a private testing of the ETH system etc (so it was closed off from the outside world)
The same guy was also constantly telling everyone you better buy some ETH because..
"Microsoft is USING Ethereum" also !
Then i found out that in reality all they did is get permission to host their block chain bullshit on "Azure"
This is pure fraud.. sanctioned by poloniex staff !

So who was saying that ? Look around Bitcointalk and guess LOL

So what is the big point here ?
I said years ago now with Ripple that it's scammy pile of gay bullshit.
And this "It's used by banks" crap is pure nonsense.
Why ?
In order for a bank to implement the Ripple or ETH system they will have to BUY / PURCHASE "digital tokens"
and will any Bank Executive think hey i read the Bitcointalk ANN topic and know what ?
We're going to buy millions & Billions of dollars worth of some shitty ass scammy "IPO"/ICO" scam token ?

The bottom line is if any bank is going to "USE" one of these scammy shitty IPO coins
they have to BUY the bags of these IPO starters.. how likely is that ?
0% chance.. get fucking real !

What would a Bank do ?
Well guess what i heard later when the IBM spammer stopped mentioning IBM + ETH ?
I said so.. what happened ?
He said well,
they evaluated the ETH system then decided to build their own block-chain based system and then abandoned ETH !

Ah HA !  Cheesy

Can you boys smell the coffee yet ?
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March 20, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
#17
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You guys fail to grasp that convoluted overly complicated bullshit will be never seen or heard.. or USED !

This is a great description of our current banking and payments infrastructure. Most people don't understand it now and most people won't understand it in 10 years, regardless of what kind of overhaul is implemented.

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You all need to listen to me because i am right

Hint: If you were right, you wouldn't need to beg people to listen to you.

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Ripple's consensus algorithm is fundamentally flawed shit

It's been running successfully for several years now and is approaching 20 million successful ledger closes. When are all of the scary bad things going to happen? Do you know who Harold Camping is?
https://www.ripplecharts.com/#/

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March 20, 2016, 09:43:16 AM
#16
Listening forward to the end of the 15th minute, will if you are solid senior level software engineer with a strong economics expertise, start to make you realize that Vitalik is an unrealistic dreamer who doesn't think out the real world insolubility of his childish fantasies.


Maybe you are too logical... What is an unrealistic dreamer?

“Imagination is more important than knowledge...

I am extremely creative (did you not look at CoolPage.com or Corel Painter on which I created or worked on as a programmer and graphic artist). How about my essays[1]. How about the print ads I did for WordUp which I also programmed. The difference is I am a realistic dreamer with a realistic plan who has proven I make products that end up used by millions. Vitalik lacks the realistic grounding (and no experience!) to choose viable goals and implement them effectively. What a horrible destruction of a math nerd to allow him to enter this fantasy world where he can sell childish, unrealistic fantasy technobabble to gullible speculator n00bs.

[1]http://unheresy.com/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212
http://web.archive.org/web/20140225115821/http://www.coolpagehelp.com/index.html?row2col2=developer.html



XRP has no involvement in permissioned, centralized systems.

Except that its consensus protocol is permissioned, centralized.

As far as I know Ripple does not use PoS.

You didn't comprehend the links I provided to you.


You are about as creative as the developers I work with. Nothing wrong with it but as a creative director, I don't want to get into the details.  I idolize your skills as a programmer and as most great programmers your design and creative skills must suffer some (otherwise I wouldn't be able to get a job) Wink

You seem to focus on the past/present and avoid where things are headed.  Look... I love Bitcoin and I actually have more invested in Bitcoin than I do XRP but the potential for Ripple and XRP to succeed is there. I understand there are a bunch of crap altcoins out there but XRP is not one.  Its utility could actually benefit Bitcoin.

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March 20, 2016, 08:15:38 AM
#15
Listening forward to the end of the 15th minute, will if you are solid senior level software engineer with a strong economics expertise, start to make you realize that Vitalik is an unrealistic dreamer who doesn't think out the real world insolubility of his childish fantasies.


Maybe you are too logical... What is an unrealistic dreamer?

“Imagination is more important than knowledge...

I am extremely creative (did you not look at CoolPage.com or Corel Painter on which I created or worked on as a programmer and graphic artist). How about my essays[1]. How about the print ads I did for WordUp which I also programmed. The difference is I am a realistic dreamer with a realistic plan who has proven I make products that end up used by millions. Vitalik lacks the realistic grounding (and no experience!) to choose viable goals and implement them effectively. What a horrible destruction of a math nerd to allow him to enter this fantasy world where he can sell childish, unrealistic fantasy technobabble to gullible speculator n00bs.

[1]http://unheresy.com/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212
http://web.archive.org/web/20140225115821/http://www.coolpagehelp.com/index.html?row2col2=developer.html



XRP has no involvement in permissioned, centralized systems.

Except that its consensus protocol is permissioned, centralized.

As far as I know Ripple does not use PoS.

You didn't comprehend the links I provided to you.
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March 20, 2016, 07:43:00 AM
#14
@Spoetnik

I agree with you but there is no reason to get your grandma to read the "long winded Ripple rant" unless she is interested in becoming a "fucking" market maker.  Ripple isn't like all the other altcoins Wink Your grandma doesn't need to touch XRP for it to become successful. Ripple's focus/audience is the financial industry/market makers and XRP serves as a bridge currency for cross boarder transactions.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
March 20, 2016, 02:08:26 AM
#13
You guys fail to grasp that convoluted overly complicated bullshit will be never seen or heard.. or USED !
It's not just guys here that will roll their eyes and scroll past this type of crap
but that fact is we need to give a quick run down to the less-tech savvy out there when pitching a currency.
And sorry boys but my Grandmother is not going to read your White Paper  Grin

And unless you get the mass public involved then.. well, enjoy your digital "token" circle jerk.

A lot of concepts may actually be good but if it's too complicated it's utterly doomed to failure, guaranteed.

A lot of you fail to grasp the CONTEXT of the Altcoin scene.
If breaking out of the underground nerd scene is not a priority then why the fuck are you guys even bothering ?

And why is it i am the ONLY fucking guy in all of Crypto railing on about this aspect of it all for YEARS ?

You all need to listen to me because i am right.
And i clearly have a far greater grasp of "People" then nerds buried in their code.

It's simple.. It doesn't matter.
What does ?
I have said it HUNDREDS of times already..
And that is, everyone else's opinion on this stuff besides all of ours here at Bitcointalk etc. (is what matters)

Year after year after fucking year i grab your "ohh so smart" faces..
and i FORCE you to look in a new direction and you fight me on it and pull back.
I have felt like i am trying to make the horse drink water here for fucking years !
And at the end of the day i have to let the stupid piece of shit horse wither & die.

It amazes me how so many of you here think your sooooo fucking smart..
Yet fail miserably at grasping the most basic root aspects of crypto.
Such as the Context of the Altcoin scene. and the never ending delusion
You guys think if you make coin no. 7,001 the other 7,000 scams will have no impact on your "Legit" coin.
YOU guys here *may* think that but will the public ?
No fucking way !

PS:
I am getting my noob PC family members to come and read that long winded Ripple rant.
stay tuned, i think they will scream TAKE MY MONEY NOW !
Fuck my Grandma can't get enough "White Papers' LOL
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March 19, 2016, 10:16:44 PM
#12

...

Ripple promulgates a lot of hyped nonsense to n00bs in the government, W3C, and banking sector who don't understand the details.

I think the greatest irony is how Larry Summers et al don't realize that they are crafting their own demise by investing in shit such as profitable mining, Lightning (channelled) Networks, smart contracts, Ripple nonsense, etc..

Centralized and federated shit does not scale:

...

Btw, proof-of-stake will never scale out user adoption, because it is a vested interest paradigm, and thus will be destroyed by its stake holders. No stake holder (in any context or business model) allows a competitor to profit. Only permissionless, decentralized systems scale.

Microsoft will whore itself any way it can to try obfuscate that is a dying dinosaur.

XRP has no involvement in permissioned, centralized systems.  XRP is used outside of the permissioned network as a bridge currency to connect permissioned networks to others on a public ledger. As far as I know Ripple does not use PoS. Ripple is introducing an XRP incentive program for market makers who use XRP to offer tighter FX spreads.
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March 19, 2016, 10:08:04 PM
#11
BTW - Here is a link that confirms "A rumor has been circulated recently that VB almost came to work for Ripple"
https://youtu.be/fbEtivJIfIU?t=11m7s

Listening forward to the end of the 15th minute, will if you are solid senior level software engineer with a strong economics expertise, start to make you realize that Vitalik is an unrealistic dreamer who doesn't think out the real world insolubility of his childish fantasies.


Maybe you are too logical... What is an unrealistic dreamer?

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - AE
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March 19, 2016, 09:41:33 PM
#10

...

Ripple promulgates a lot of hyped nonsense to n00bs in the government, W3C, and banking sector who don't understand the details.

I think the greatest irony is how Larry Summers et al don't realize that they are crafting their own demise by investing in shit such as profitable mining, Lightning (channelled) Networks, smart contracts, Ripple nonsense, etc..

Centralized and federated shit does not scale:

...

Btw, proof-of-stake will never scale out user adoption, because it is a vested interest paradigm, and thus will be destroyed by its stake holders. No stake holder (in any context or business model) allows a competitor to profit. Only permissionless, decentralized systems scale.

Microsoft will whore itself any way it can to try obfuscate that it is a dying dinosaur.
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March 19, 2016, 09:33:06 PM
#8
BTW - Here is a link that confirms "A rumor has been circulated recently that VB almost came to work for Ripple"
https://youtu.be/fbEtivJIfIU?t=11m7s

Listening forward to the end of the 15th minute, will if you are solid senior level software engineer with a strong economics expertise, start to make you realize that Vitalik is an unrealistic dreamer who doesn't think out the real world insolubility of his childish fantasies.
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