Ethereum is in an artificial bubble - page 3.

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Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 08:15:55 AM

Yes, everyone knoves that it's a bubble. What I am saying is that it's totally artificial. I realised it looking at coinmarketcap charts.
Almost all of the trading volume goes trought Poloniex and Kraken. On poloniex there's almost ONLY eth/btc volume, no eth/usd volume at all.

That is what confuses me all the time.Their cold wallet storage and their exchange volume are obviously saying something.

Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 08:15:55 AM

For me it means than NO FIAT MONEY is flowing in ethereum market cap, it's only that a few btc whales are shorting bitcoin to make money on ethereum pump and then to buy more btc with the profit.
AAAnd, one more time noobs will be fooled.

There is a high chance that they are using the 25k btc which they acquired by selling the Ethereum in the past.However no body knows how many old miners are involved in it. IMO both the exchanges are legit and make the money if you can.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 05, 2016, 09:48:53 PM

Even knowing it's a bubble you can still make money, and the thing is that you don't know how long momentum is going to be in the up direction. Could be for a while.

Exactly, the way things are going (Bitcoin isn't going to get any better any time soon) Ethereum have a very clear road to keep the uptrend unless some very bad news start popping up. The problem is that every week is quite the contrary, new deals, dapps coming up and other positive announcements.

And if the mainstream media start positioning ETH as the upcoming Bitcoin killer, well, we'll see another kind of bubble altogether...

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A bunch of insider trading and a few sorry sheep who are soon going to lose their shirts.

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Even knowing it's a bubble you can still make money, and the thing is that you don't know how long momentum is going to be in the up direction. Could be for a while.

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New paradigm, this time it's different, eternal september, etc.

We've been here plenty of times before. The nature of this explosion is unique and spectacular but an eventual fall is built into the fabric of the universe. Perhaps the real rise hasn't even started though. Or it's winding down. It'll come eventually.

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Quote from: btcbug on March 05, 2016, 07:30:44 PM

Agree with OP.

I mentioned elsewhere that if you look at Poloniex volume for the top 10 alts, they've all shot up around 10 - 40 times in volume in the past month or two. To me this means that there is simply massive speculation going on across the board. Regardless what anyone thinks of ETH fundamentals and long term, it's clear that right now it's way too high. It's due for a huge correction any time imo.

Please, there's massive speculation because Bitcoin is falling to pieces, is it so hard for you to comprehend? It may be alright at the end but in the short future is doing very bad with problems coming from every angle. Ethereum on the other hand has its shit together, they have plan, there are very serious professionals and developers handling it all. If you put that along with the huge potential it has (it's still not a reality, let's face it) and the attraction of companies of Reuters and Microsoft that Bitcoin would never get, well it's all very clear. It may be a bubble but a justified one not a p&d, there's actually interest in Ethereum and ETH will need to be used if companies and dapps start getting developed contrary to other coins that no one actually use, they just hoard and hoard and then the project dies because there are millions like these that are exactly the same.

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Agree with OP.

I mentioned elsewhere that if you look at Poloniex volume for the top 10 alts, they've all shot up around 10 - 40 times in volume in the past month or two. To me this means that there is simply massive speculation going on across the board. Regardless what anyone thinks of ETH fundamentals and long term, it's clear that right now it's way too high. It's due for a huge correction any time imo.

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Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 08:15:55 AM

Yes, everyone knoves that it's a bubble. What I am saying is that it's totally artificial. I realised it looking at coinmarketcap charts.
Almost all of the trading volume goes trought Poloniex and Kraken. On poloniex there's almost ONLY eth/btc volume, no eth/usd volume at all. Kraken actually has eth/usd volume but much smaller than eth/btc.
For me it means than NO FIAT MONEY is flowing in ethereum market cap, it's only that a few btc whales are shorting bitcoin to make money on ethereum pump and then to buy more btc with the profit.
AAAnd, one more time noobs will be fooled.

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Quote from: vlom on March 05, 2016, 08:18:25 AM

or people just want to change their BTC in ETH because they think ETH has the brighter future.

I think this is more probable. There is serious problem with Bitcoin at the moment. That is the block size increase debate.

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Ethereum is the future and Bitcoin is the past. And the bitcoin folks are going to claw and scratch for every inch, they're not going to let it go easily. Too bad it inevitable...

Get on the train or be left behind, everything has an end.

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Quote from: vlom on March 05, 2016, 08:18:25 AM

or people just want to change their BTC in ETH because they think ETH has the brighter future.

for anyone who watches anime
ethereum is Itatchi and bitcoin naruto....really bad joke

but i think ethereum actually worth someone its a lot more anonymous then bitcoin and provides actual features that bitcoin doesn't i mean if you break down most alt coins there just a shadow of bitcoin not that ethereum isn't but i think theres more too it and if you notice bitcoin dropped under its 400 average so most is going towards it

i've been in and out of eth for the past couple of days

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Quote from: stoat on March 05, 2016, 11:56:37 AM

Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 11:46:57 AM

Quote from: stoat on March 05, 2016, 08:24:23 AM

Lol sour grapes.

Thanks OP posts like these are a massive bullish indicator for the ETH price. And make very pleasurable reading.

It's the same feeling i get if i read that someone i hate got run over by a bus or my favourite team won the FA cup.

Keep em coming

It's a pleasure to be hated by you, a hater.
Anyway, I am very interesed in ethereum, but this is a bubble. So... Come here in a month and read only my last sentence:

I TOLD YOU SO Grin

More sour grapes keep it coming im almost fully erect

Believe me, I am not happy to know that I'm causing an erection to a homosexual troll.

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Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 11:46:57 AM

Quote from: stoat on March 05, 2016, 08:24:23 AM

Lol sour grapes.

Thanks OP posts like these are a massive bullish indicator for the ETH price. And make very pleasurable reading.

It's the same feeling i get if i read that someone i hate got run over by a bus or my favourite team won the FA cup.

Keep em coming

It's a pleasure to be hated by you, a hater.
Anyway, I am very interesed in ethereum, but this is a bubble. So... Come here in a month and read only my last sentence:

I TOLD YOU SO Grin

More sour grapes keep it coming im almost fully erect

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Quote from: stoat on March 05, 2016, 08:24:23 AM

Lol sour grapes.

Thanks OP posts like these are a massive bullish indicator for the ETH price. And make very pleasurable reading.

It's the same feeling i get if i read that someone i hate got run over by a bus or my favourite team won the FA cup.

Keep em coming

It's a pleasure to be hated by you, a hater.
Anyway, I am very interesed in ethereum, but this is a bubble. So... Come here in a month and read only my last sentence:

I TOLD YOU SO Grin

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Quote from: stoat on March 05, 2016, 08:31:38 AM

Quote from: Bitcoinpro on March 05, 2016, 08:22:09 AM

Quote from: vlom on March 05, 2016, 08:18:25 AM

or people just want to change their BTC in ETH because they think ETH has the brighter future.

and then ethereum frodo and bilbo slayed the fiat banking dragon

Dump bitchcoin!

http://youtu.be/grbSQ6O6kbs

Joe Bitcoin Hodler, "I'm not dead! I'm not dead! I feel happy." LOL.

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Quote from: Bitcoinpro on March 05, 2016, 08:22:09 AM

Quote from: vlom on March 05, 2016, 08:18:25 AM

or people just want to change their BTC in ETH because they think ETH has the brighter future.

and then ethereum frodo and bilbo slayed the fiat banking dragon

Dump bitchcoin!

http://youtu.be/grbSQ6O6kbs

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Quote from: Bitcoinpro on March 05, 2016, 08:22:09 AM

Quote from: vlom on March 05, 2016, 08:18:25 AM

or people just want to change their BTC in ETH because they think ETH has the brighter future.

and then ethereum frodo and bilbo slayed the fiat banking dragon

I love this. All the old Blockstream/Core guys are now miserable, and are over here doing what they do best.... FUD!

LOL - you killed Bitcoin with your toxic, miserable shit. But you are just making me friekin laugh my A$$ off because it reminds me you are stuck holding a bag of crappy crippled bitcoins going nowhere but down, and too stubborn to let go of them, and that is why I am laughing..... watching you sink while you get dragged down by your own toxic, bitter stupidity.

ROFL!!! SUCKERS!!!! Blockstream/Core screwed you! Now stay off our Altcoin Channel before you get banned/moved for off topic discussion! hahaha

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Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 08:15:55 AM

Yes, everyone knoves that it's a bubble. What I am saying is that it's totally artificial. I realised it looking at coinmarketcap charts.
Almost all of the trading volume goes trought Poloniex and Kraken. On poloniex there's almost ONLY eth/btc volume, no eth/usd volume at all. Kraken actually has eth/usd volume but much smaller than eth/btc.
For me it means than NO FIAT MONEY is flowing in ethereum market cap, it's only that a few btc whales are shorting bitcoin to make money on ethereum pump and then to buy more btc with the profit.
AAAnd, one more time noobs will be fooled.

Lol sour grapes.

Thanks OP posts like these are a massive bullish indicator for the ETH price. And make very pleasurable reading.

It's the same feeling i get if i read that someone i hate got run over by a bus or my favourite team won the FA cup.

Keep em coming

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Quote from: willope on March 05, 2016, 08:15:55 AM

Yes, everyone knoves that it's a bubble. What I am saying is that it's totally artificial. I realised it looking at coinmarketcap charts.
Almost all of the trading volume goes trought Poloniex and Kraken. On poloniex there's almost ONLY eth/btc volume, no eth/usd volume at all. Kraken actually has eth/usd volume but much smaller than eth/btc.
For me it means than NO FIAT MONEY is flowing in ethereum market cap, it's only that a few btc whales are shorting bitcoin to make money on ethereum pump and then to buy more btc with the profit.
AAAnd, one more time noobs will be fooled.

Who uses fiat to buy altocins anyway? Ppl usually use fiat to buy btc and then buy othercoins with it.

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