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August 17, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
'if it's true might see new dump(s) soon

Do we know how much they have dumped yet, so we have an inkling of what's to come?

Sure, 4000 coins is not much more than what's mined in a day, so it's nothing we can't handle, but it will drive down the price for a while.

3k7 ? https://blockchain.info/en/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2?filter=1

http://www.coindesk.com/price/
btc dumps few hours after the etherum's sells, correlation
sr. member
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August 17, 2014, 09:46:21 AM
'if it's true might see new dump(s) soon

Do we know how much they have dumped yet, so we have an inkling of what's to come?

Sure, 4000 coins is not much more than what's mined in a day, so it's nothing we can't handle, but it will drive down the price for a while.
legendary
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August 17, 2014, 09:39:13 AM
Bitcoin is still in good shape nothing to see here.
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August 17, 2014, 09:37:29 AM
They dumped 1,150 bitcoins 5 days ago when the price was $590, 1,350 3 days ago when the price was $550, and now they have dumped 1,237 more TODAY when the price was $510, that`s why we went down 500usd and we are going to $450...

How do you know this? Is the address they're sent to a known address of a trading site?

They admit the needed of selling bitcoins till reach 3 millon USD. So there`s a lot of dumping incoming.

source?

if it's true might see new dump(s) soon

this is why ipo are bad, because the one who run the ipo can dump at whatever price, they got them for "free" basically
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August 17, 2014, 09:33:05 AM
They dumped 1,150 bitcoins 5 days ago when the price was $590, 1,350 3 days ago when the price was $550, and now they have dumped 1,237 more TODAY when the price was $510, that`s why we went down 500usd and we are going to $450...

How do you know this? Is the address they're sent to a known address of a trading site?

They admit the needed of selling bitcoins till reach 3 millon USD. So there`s a lot of dumping incoming.

source?

if it's true might see new dump(s) soon
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August 17, 2014, 08:08:57 AM
Total FUD. Most the Etherium IPO funds remain intact and what has been sold was not significant enough to move the market in any meaningful way.

The expectation of the coin going to be sold off will cause the price to drop.

The current price always reflect the future event and not current one.

But 26000 BTC is nothing, only 8 days of mining...

The 26000 BTC is on top of miners selling. So, someone has to buy up that much btc to keep the price afloat.
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August 17, 2014, 07:09:51 AM
Total FUD. Most the Etherium IPO funds remain intact and what has been sold was not significant enough to move the market in any meaningful way.

The expectation of the coin going to be sold off will cause the price to drop.

The current price always reflect the future event and not current one.

But 26000 BTC is nothing, only 8 days of mining...

8 days worth of the total inflation of a any given currency is an incredibly HUGE sum. Try to extrapolate such a thing to the USD or to any fiat currency of your choice, and add to that the fact that the BTC inflation decreases over time until deflation takes over, which doesn't apply to the USD.

so you are saying that double inflation on 8 days can influence the price downwards for over 10 % for Weeks?
legendary
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August 17, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
Total FUD. Most the Etherium IPO funds remain intact and what has been sold was not significant enough to move the market in any meaningful way.

The expectation of the coin going to be sold off will cause the price to drop.

The current price always reflect the future event and not current one.

But 26000 BTC is nothing, only 8 days of mining...

8 days worth of the total inflation of a any given currency is an incredibly HUGE sum. Try to extrapolate such a thing to the USD or to any fiat currency of your choice, and add to that the fact that the BTC inflation decreases over time until deflation takes over, which doesn't apply to the USD.
sr. member
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August 17, 2014, 06:47:11 AM
Total FUD. Most the Etherium IPO funds remain intact and what has been sold was not significant enough to move the market in any meaningful way.

The expectation of the coin going to be sold off will cause the price to drop.

The current price always reflect the future event and not current one.

But 26000 BTC is nothing, only 8 days of mining...
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August 17, 2014, 06:38:18 AM
Total FUD. Most the Etherium IPO funds remain intact and what has been sold was not significant enough to move the market in any meaningful way.

The expectation of the coin going to be sold off will cause the price to drop.

The current price always reflect the future event and not current one.
member
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August 17, 2014, 06:34:05 AM
Total FUD. Most the Etherium IPO funds remain intact and what has been sold was not significant enough to move the market in any meaningful way.
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August 17, 2014, 06:25:58 AM
#99
Is this similar to Reggie Middleton's ultra-coin?
http://ultra-coin.com/

I do not understand the ultra coin client yet but it seems like one-to-one bets with other ultra coin users on the basis of Bitcoins, locked in a wallet. Seems a nice way to cut out the middleman.
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August 17, 2014, 06:14:58 AM
#98

Nice scam.



 Grin

I think it's more of an attempt to cover their ass legally in case things don't work out as planned.

That was exactly what kept me from buying. Too much ass covering. At least, offer something in return for your money.

I do hope it works out for investors but people in the altcoin scene seem ready and willing to throw their money away.

If they are sincere in contributing, why ask money from the public? Do they really need 13M+ to develop the project?
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August 17, 2014, 03:17:01 AM
#97
they only got 26k or so total and only a few thousand have moved. why would this "kill bitcoin"? even 26k being dumped across a few exchanges would not be that big of a deal.

The market depth can not absorb 26k coins without the price going down by a lot.

Yeah obviously a 26 k dump will send bitcoin price way down, but they say they will only sell 3k now, which already have been sold.. thats why the price dropped like 80 usd. And they will hold the remaining amount.

Kind of tell people how shallow the buy side for bitcoin is. Any whale can cause bitcoin to crash a lot.
legendary
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August 17, 2014, 03:01:11 AM
#96
Ethereum raised +26k BTC because people is so irrational they do not understand how bad an investment it might be. Ethers are NOT designed to be scarce and valuable as bitcoins are, Ethers are just tokens used to reward nodes running code on the ethereum network. Furthermore, the final supply is still unknown, the ethereum team is free to create Ethers out thin air as they see fit and inflation will be extremely high - they cannot be too scarce by design, that would hurt their main purpose.

Making a long story short, ethereum as a scripting language might enable awesome smart contracts but Ethers as a currency complete lack the economic incentives that make Bitcoin valuable and potentially much more valuable in the future. Bitcoin is built to be a gold-like, scarce commodity that has all the elements to be "good money", on the contrary Ethers are just "credits", which supply is controlled by a central authority, and which are built to be a security and anti-spam tool for a distributed network.

If you don't plan to build anything on the ethereum network, then you do not need Ethers.

If you bought Ethers because its "Bitcoin 2.0",then you were deeply misguided by ethereum team's marketing.

If you bought into ethereum planning to have a ROI, then your only chance is for the hype to grow, attracting to the market greater fools that do not understand what ethereum is, and what are the economic incentives attached to it.

Back on topic: it seems strange that the ethereum team is dumping instead of making off-exchange transactions. And BTW, which exchange are they using?
sr. member
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August 17, 2014, 02:17:45 AM
#95
they only got 26k or so total and only a few thousand have moved. why would this "kill bitcoin"? even 26k being dumped across a few exchanges would not be that big of a deal.

The market depth can not absorb 26k coins without the price going down by a lot.

Yeah obviously a 26 k dump will send bitcoin price way down, but they say they will only sell 3k now, which already have been sold.. thats why the price dropped like 80 usd. And they will hold the remaining amount.
hero member
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August 17, 2014, 02:07:02 AM
#94
they only got 26k or so total and only a few thousand have moved. why would this "kill bitcoin"? even 26k being dumped across a few exchanges would not be that big of a deal.

But yet all the sheep were scared shitless that 30K SR Auction coins were going to hit the exchanges.  Scared. Fkn. Shitless.  It's all anyone talked about for 3+ weeks.

Pretty sure selling 3,000 BTC would do this to the price, wouldn't it?
legendary
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August 17, 2014, 01:51:57 AM
#93
they only got 26k or so total and only a few thousand have moved. why would this "kill bitcoin"? even 26k being dumped across a few exchanges would not be that big of a deal.

But yet all the sheep were scared shitless that 30K SR Auction coins were going to hit the exchanges.  Scared. Fkn. Shitless.  It's all anyone talked about for 3+ weeks.
hero member
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August 17, 2014, 01:45:36 AM
#92
People do realize they actually made a statement in the contract itself saying 'we may or may not actually make ethereum, invest at your own risk'?



I don't condone violence but trust me, if they simply walk away, the targets on the Vitalik and Charles backs will be bigger than Karpeles'. ...

There are a lot of institutional investors and very wealthy people pouring money into Ethereum IPO.  Some extremely smart people as well, despite popular opinion on this forum.

It wouldn't be prudent for them not to perform in 2014/15 as expected.

-B-
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August 17, 2014, 01:40:22 AM
#91
they only got 26k or so total and only a few thousand have moved. why would this "kill bitcoin"? even 26k being dumped across a few exchanges would not be that big of a deal.

The market depth can not absorb 26k coins without the price going down by a lot.
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