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Topic: Ethereum scammers trying to suppress BTC till they find someone to Dump Eth on - page 8. (Read 9324 times)

legendary
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The only "shilling" I do is point out what coins are scams and which ones aren't.  The ones issued by a central authority via IPO are obviously for-profit scams.  The fact that the same coins doing such activities also completely fail on a technical level and are worse than regular old Bitcoin while using used car salesmen marketing terms like "blockchain 2.0", makes it all the more hilarious.

There is my stance on that issue below, but the Lightning Network might implement some type of confidential transactions and make them pointless:

Nobody in altcoins has improved on Bitcoin in any way except maybe anonymity purposes such as ring signatures and zk-snarks (monero and zcash).  I once thought some proof of stake systems like DPoS might have promise, but once you figure out the complete picture in how these systems works, you can walk away with no other conclusion than them being a step BACKWARDS compared to plain Bitcoin.

Although I would not recommend buying any altcoin such as Monero or Zcash until a few months after BTC halving or you will likely get financially raped.  The drawbacks of Zcash also kinda outweigh the pros of increased anonymity set over Monero to me.

When bitcoins that you hold get more valuable, then there's no profit for you?
When others express their opinion, then they're shilling.. when you do it, then it's sincere concern.

.. is it all like this because you're special?
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
The only "shilling" I do is point out what coins are scams and which ones aren't.  The ones issued by a central authority via IPO are obviously for-profit scams.  The fact that the same coins doing such activities also completely fail on a technical level and are worse than regular old Bitcoin while using used car salesmen marketing terms like "blockchain 2.0", makes it all the more hilarious.

There is my stance on that issue below, but the Lightning Network might implement some type of confidential transactions and make them pointless:

Nobody in altcoins has improved on Bitcoin in any way except maybe anonymity purposes such as ring signatures and zk-snarks (monero and zcash).  I once thought some proof of stake systems like DPoS might have promise, but once you figure out the complete picture in how these systems works, you can walk away with no other conclusion than them being a step BACKWARDS compared to plain Bitcoin.

Although I would not recommend buying any altcoin such as Monero or Zcash until a few months after BTC halving or you will likely get financially raped.  The drawbacks of Zcash also kinda outweigh the pros of increased anonymity set over Monero to me.
member
Activity: 107
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Nobody spends that much time shilling against Bitcoin without financial motive.

All your shilling in favor of bitcoin is financially motivated? Tongue

LOL thats so true
legendary
Activity: 876
Merit: 1000
Nobody spends that much time shilling against Bitcoin without financial motive.

All your shilling in favor of bitcoin is financially motivated? Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
All relatively small obstacles that can be solved.

LOL, no, CAP theorem is not a "small obstacle".  Eth is a scamcoin.  Feel free to keep bumping this thread so everyone can click your name and see 39 pages of post history of anti-Bitcoin shilling.  Some people probably don't believe there are paid anti-Bitcoin shills on this forum.  All they had to do is click your post history to find out.  Nobody spends that much time shilling against Bitcoin without financial motive.
legendary
Activity: 876
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It's infeasible due to things like CAP theorem.  

All relatively small obstacles that can be solved. Obstacles that aren't close enough important as bitcoin has. While ETHs potential problems are technical, then bitcoins problems are financial. The biggest problem already started when bitcoin started trying to be a currency. There is no use for a currency that is highly attractive for speculation, and therefor has a highly unpredictable future value. The main goal for a currency is to offer a stable intermediate to make more complex plans with determinable value. There is no way to run a business, while depending on the currency that may change it's value -50%/+50% in the next month.

Since you're a hired shill poster, I don't expect you to understand any of that.

That's the hysterical part I was talking about. You won't exactly raise trust among the sober minded people, when you keep yelling about conspiracies, anti-semitism and suspecting every discussion partner of being a paid conspirator. You may get the attention of those who are used to learning about history, finance and tech through youtube videos, but those folks mostly don't have the money to keep the heavy BTC market afloat anyway.
legendary
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then ETH is a newborn baby whose far future isn't yet to be determinable.

It's infeasible due to things like CAP theorem.  If Eth is a "newborn baby", then it would be a crack baby.  Since you're a hired shill poster, I don't expect you to understand any of that.  You have 39 pages of post history claiming Bitcoin is a scam.  Literally every single post says that.  Nobody would waste their time doing such a thing without financial motivation.  Anyone can tell you're a paid shill poster.

legendary
Activity: 876
Merit: 1000
Except there is no "ethereum network" because it doesn't matter what you can do inside the VM when it has an invalid foundation holding it up.  We have a 47 page thread discussing that already:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-ethereum-paradox-1361602

And people like Gmaxwell went over it saying the same thing weeks later:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14601127

Sadly, your 47 page thread lacks of constructive criticism and is mostly full of hysterical monologues and personal insults written by yourself.
Gmaxwell post is a much better piece, that lacks the hysterical emotions that your posts almost always include. Maybe less caffeine would help to keep more focus?

As I've always said about ETH and it can be looked up in my post history. It has a lot of potential, but still many things can go wrong while it matures. When bitcoin is sick and dying, with only the close loved ones trying to keep up hope, then ETH is a newborn baby whose far future isn't yet determinable. The idea of ETH already wins the idea of BTC, now we only have to see if the technical side keeps up with the idea.
legendary
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When things mature, then the only people who earn money with ETH are those who are actually capable in building useful applications on the ethereum network.

Except there is no "ethereum network" because it doesn't matter what you can do inside the VM when it has an invalid foundation holding it up.  We have a 47 page thread discussing that already:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-ethereum-paradox-1361602

And people like Gmaxwell went over it saying the same thing weeks later:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14601127
legendary
Activity: 876
Merit: 1000
forum inhabited by computer science grads and PhDs all smarter than you are.

 Tongue
legendary
Activity: 876
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Yeah right!
Vitalik Buterin, the head of ETH, dumped 25% of his stash because of the extreme potential it is having. Cheesy

That's because unlike bitcoin, ETH's main thing isn't earning by dumb buy'n'hold speculation. There is no "beanie baby" artificial scarcity to feed the greedy little minds of taxi drivers and bartenders, who hope to find easy shortcuts to riches. Possibility to earn through speculating with ETH will only last in it's beginning stage where everything is raw and driven by hype. When things mature, then the only people who earn money with ETH are those who are actually capable in building useful applications on the ethereum network.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1016
Bitcoin - a high-tech pyramid scheme that's tech is stagnant and it's market is running out of greater fools. Only black and grey markets have practical use for it for it's relative anonymity. Attracts mainly people who are lazy, dumb and greedy enough to be lured in with the idea of "buy, sit on your ass while doing nothing, earn $$$$"

ETH - Resource that has potential to offer practical solutions for more useful applications then people have currently even imagined. Doesn't try to be a currency, because currencies with unpredictable future value are useless anyway. Biggest riches will be earned by those who build practical applications around the network. Attracts more people who are able to cope with the increased complexity.

Make your bets..



Yeah right!
Vitalik Buterin, the head of ETH, dumped 25% of his stash because of the extreme potential it is having. Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
Make your bets..

Yes, we can make our bets.  Anyone with an IQ over 2 can look at your post history and see you're an anti-Bitcoin shill likely operated by the same entity as "Talks_Cheep" since your posts are almost word for word identical in content and length.  Next time you try to post propaganda, try not to do it on a forum inhabited by computer science grads and PhDs all smarter than you are.
legendary
Activity: 876
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin - a high-tech pyramid scheme that's tech is stagnant and it's market is running out of greater fools. Only black and grey markets have practical use for it for it's relative anonymity. Attracts mainly people who are lazy, dumb and greedy enough to be lured in with the idea of "buy, sit on your ass while doing nothing, earn $$$$"

ETH - Resource that has potential to offer practical solutions for more useful applications then people have currently even imagined. Doesn't try to be a currency, because currencies with unpredictable future value are useless anyway. Biggest riches will be earned by those who build practical applications around the network. Attracts more people who are able to cope with the increased complexity.

Make your bets..

legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1016
The question is if they succeed in finding anyone wishing to buy ETH at this price. I strongly doubt.

Yes that won't be easy!
No matter how hard they will try to dump that stuff on others who fall for this scheme, I know it won't be me! Grin
MR1
legendary
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Merit: 1000
The question is if they succeed in finding anyone wishing to buy ETH at this price. I strongly doubt.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
Why are people trying to paint China as the evildoer in all this? The Chinese hold a strong portion of the bitcoin market, why would they try to keep it down? China is generally doing a lot to keep bitcoin up while systematically ignoring ETH, so I'd say that the contrary of what OP says is true.

Chinese are insane gamblers and a lot of them bought into Eth.  One of the Chinese VCs that used to screw with Bitshares put far more money into Eth.  It was THE WEST leading in price when Bitcoin went over $470 and China attempted to stop it on purpose.  This is a fact.  I keep up with each exchange's movements daily and can easily tell who is doing what.  It's always extremely obvious when the Chinese are trying to raise or lower price.  

For example, when the price of BTC goes over $1000 and Eth has some enormous dump in the process going to something like 0.006, they not only make no money in the process of the BTC rise, they lose money due to the Eth implosion.  They're desperate to find someone to dump their Eth on first.  It was not chump change that pumped that Eth scamcoin to $1 billion market cap.  It took a lot of money to get there.  Now they have to try and micromanage BTC and Eth at the same time to not get slaughtered in Eth holdings.

When I said Eth is a scam, I was not bullshitting:

Even Gmaxwell finally came out of the closet calling it a scam:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14601127

When I said IOTA is a permissioned ledger extortion scheme I was not kidding either:

Add another refutation concerning the validity of IOTA to the thread:

r0ach: I wouldn't worry about permissioning, Iota doesn't have any kind of consensus or UTXO set...it's entirely unworkable.

http://bob.mcelrath.org/
hero member
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Why are people trying to paint China as the evildoer in all this? The Chinese hold a strong portion of the bitcoin market, why would they try to keep it down? China is generally doing a lot to keep bitcoin up while systematically ignoring ETH, so I'd say that the contrary of what OP says is true.
member
Activity: 107
Merit: 10
Nice try scammers with your orchestrated market sell on Finex, but Bitstamp didn't follow your move:




why don't you short ETH at Poloneix???
if you are damn sure about it?

legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
Nice try scammers with your orchestrated market sell on Finex, but Bitstamp didn't follow your move. (coinbase still at $452 too):

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