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Topic: Ethereum Spike? Any news? Just conference related... (Read 1555 times)

legendary
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I have some Ethereum but I see it as an extremely risky investment long term. Sure it could keep going up, but what exactly are we investing in ?

If you think you are investing in the business models (DAO's) that run on it, think again. As far as those are concerned the blockchains are interchangeable. What happens when a successful DAO decides it wants to move to the next latest and greatest platform - be it Tezos, Rootstock, Ether Classic, whatever ? No problem ! They just create new tokens on the competing chain and supply them on a 1 to 1 exchange basis for the 'old' ones.

Thats the problem with these smart contract chains. There's an airgap between the base token and the real value source.

That airgap isn't there with the monetary blockchains. If you own Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash, Monero, Dogue, Peercoin, Unobtanium, Jackpotcoin you own it because the coin itself has value. There ain't no replacing it with another chain because it ain't itself any more. Whereas with a DAO token, you can move it to another chain and it's STILL itself.

I therefore regard these smart contract tokens with extreme caution when it comes to holding them as store of value. Monetary tokens can keep going up forever. Smart contract tokens can have the value drained out of them one day by a competing technology and for it never to come back. Consider investing in electronic typewriters in the 1970's. You'd have made a lot of money as long as you got out at some point. But if you held till the end of the 80's you'd be broke. Meanwhile if you'd held precious metal throughout you'd be fine.

Therefore the general rule is:

Monetary Blockchain Tokens: Real Gold
Smart contract Blockchain Tokens: Fools Gold

Smart Contract blockchain tokens = the 'Electronic Typewriter Shares' of the 21st century Wink


good and clear explanation!

in the future people can pretty much creating token/coin/contract/dao on Ark platform and move or exchange their Eth token/contract there. Ark is just one of many better platform coming next and soon there will be many with better scalability network, larger(current 200tps) and fast transactions.
i see Ark is cracking this code wide open.
legendary
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Merit: 1188

I have some Ethereum but I see it as an extremely risky investment long term. Sure it could keep going up, but what exactly are we investing in ?

If you think you are investing in the business models (DAO's) that run on it, think again. As far as those are concerned the blockchains are interchangeable. What happens when a successful DAO decides it wants to move to the next latest and greatest platform - be it Tezos, Rootstock, Ether Classic, whatever ? No problem ! They just create new tokens on the competing chain and supply them on a 1 to 1 exchange basis for the 'old' ones.

Thats the problem with these smart contract chains. There's an airgap between the base token and the real value source.

That airgap isn't there with the monetary blockchains. If you own Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash, Monero, Dogue, Peercoin, Unobtanium, Jackpotcoin you own it because the coin itself has value. There ain't no replacing it with another chain because it ain't itself any more. Whereas with a DAO token, you can move it to another chain and it's STILL itself.

I therefore regard these smart contract tokens with extreme caution when it comes to holding them as store of value. Monetary tokens can keep going up forever. Smart contract tokens can have the value drained out of them one day by a competing technology and for it never to come back. Consider investing in electronic typewriters in the 1970's. You'd have made a lot of money as long as you got out at some point. But if you held till the end of the 80's you'd be broke. Meanwhile if you'd held precious metal throughout you'd be fine.

Therefore the general rule is:

Monetary Blockchain Tokens: Real Gold
Smart contract Blockchain Tokens: Fools Gold

Smart Contract blockchain tokens = the 'Electronic Typewriter Shares' of the 21st century Wink

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
MS = they simply allowed people to add a coin system to their Azure server platform.
..if you paid your Azure bill $$$  Cheesy

That is some sleazy ass news they spammed hard way back.
And it was funny when i predicted it would get copied and then how it did HAHAHHAHA
All of a sudden all these other gay little shitty ICO coins were jumping on the Azure bandwagon saying "Microsoft is using XYZ coin"

Polonibox was recording it all when staff banned me from the chat box for disputing it way back.
Apparently it was "FUD" ..not the truth.

They are sleazy ass bullshit.
I stopped having respect for Polo (Monero Scammers Central) a long looooong time ago.

One of the mod's said to me once "Who is BitJohn ?" LOL
..retards hahahaha

Altcoins  Cheesy
legendary
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Hey if the news Microsoft and then IBM were "Using" Ethereum and then how "Big banks were buying shitloads of ETH" did not make the price go up then uhhhhhhhh ?  Cheesy

Polonibox --> put in keywords and read Wink

IBM already abandoned Ethereuim long ago, also no big banks using Eth, most of them already with Ripple boat. I expecting Microsoft and others lemming companies to abandon soon.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
Hey if the news Microsoft and then IBM were "Using" Ethereum and then how "Big banks were buying shitloads of ETH" did not make the price go up then uhhhhhhhh ?  Cheesy

Google + Polonibox --> put in keywords and read Wink

Then enjoy LOL'z  Grin
sr. member
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Spectiv Crowdsale: December 8th
Ethereum has a lot of important pieces going for it, like the convention, the future change to POS, etc... Most importantly though is the rise of Ethereum token crowdsales. Buyers are buying up so much Ether to participate in crowdsales like Storj and Aragon recently, ultimately making Eth prices go up.
sr. member
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Merit: 268
This week there'll be an announcement about Wayne Enterprise joining EEA. Stay tuned !

that made me laugh...lol


Just waiting for mother of all crashes who knows maybe it won't happen because people are invested big time with hardware and mining facilities that they won't sell it any cheaper than mining cost.

Yes the price has been Insane...
hero member
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This week there'll be an announcement about Wayne Enterprise joining EEA. Stay tuned !
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
I guess its too late for the investor to invest because the ethereum i guess will continue to growth its price rate in the coming year and potentially become a alternative currency for bitcoin as its continue pumping in the market. Too late because you cant buy a big volume of eth but you can still invest.
There are many ETH miners who want to pay off their rig they brought so, still you can buy eth and its never too late to invest
member
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Merit: 10
I don't know what happen,so sad .
I join an ICO project and use all my ETH,fuck
Why you use all your ETH? Everyone knows that ETH is a HODL.

Are you 5 years old ?

There is no reason why the price doubled.
All the coins are going up.. no matter how shitty they are.

So is BTC @ $2,200 right now.

Hell i looked and i have $85 in BTC on Bittrex right now and i literally did nothing at all.
It's just raining money hard.. there must be whales or new users or a combo of both flooding in.
What is going up and when is irrational and makes no sense..

right, just too much money has flooded into the crypto market, now everything is up...
sr. member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 256
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Several firms are coming into the ETH alliance. This makes it more popular among the people easily. Also who completely depend on digital currency for all sort of transaction will move towards ETH as the value has increased as well the transaction issues were not big.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
Crypto as a whole started to get the attention of traditional investors from outside this space. Even though random joes still don't know what ethereum is, billionaire investors and hedge funds are starting to notice it. Funny, as a comparison to bitcoin; random joes went first into bitcoin, poor and average people were most of the first investors. With ethereum is the opposite, first important people find about it, then the triple cheeseburger eaters.
hero member
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I guess its too late for the investor to invest because the ethereum i guess will continue to growth its price rate in the coming year and potentially become a alternative currency for bitcoin as its continue pumping in the market. Too late because you cant buy a big volume of eth but you can still invest.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
I don't know what happen,so sad .
I join an ICO project and use all my ETH,fuck
Why you use all your ETH? Everyone knows that ETH is a HODL.

Are you 5 years old ?

There is no reason why the price doubled.
All the coins are going up.. no matter how shitty they are.

So is BTC @ $2,200 right now.

Hell i looked and i have $85 in BTC on Bittrex right now and i literally did nothing at all.
It's just raining money hard.. there must be whales or new users or a combo of both flooding in.
What is going up and when is irrational and makes no sense..
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1024
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I don't know what happen,so sad .
I join an ICO project and use all my ETH,fuck
Why you use all your ETH? Everyone knows that ETH is a HODL.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
EEA formed, for now 80+ members. EEA works on ethereum as the default blockchain, therefore these companies will invest trillions $ to further develop ethereum and make applications for it, depending on their needs ( private, interoperable, public ).

https://entethalliance.org/enterprise-ethereum-alliance-release-05-19-2017.pdf
klf
legendary
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They announced 80 odd companies joining EEA and there are more to come apparently.

In last two to three days it has gone up almost 100$. It is nice profit and whoever owns more of this coins will surely make more profit than having bitcoin in near to longer term. Since bitcoin fee also went up so many smaller transactions also will be done using these altcoins. I'm just having around 10 of these coins and will keep it for another one to two years.
newbie
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They announced 80 odd companies joining EEA and there are more to come apparently.
sr. member
Activity: 262
Merit: 250
I don't know what happen,so sad .
I join an ICO project and use all my ETH,fuck
sr. member
Activity: 873
Merit: 268
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