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Topic: EU to create database linking ID to cryptowallets - page 2. (Read 1620 times)

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...and since it is for the sake of Fourth Money Laundering Directive... If the initiative gets support crypto will be recognized as a currency,
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What do you think?

It depends on how much correctness is needed.
Clearly, they need "specialists" that understand how to read the transactions (FBI may have more than enough of those).
Then the database will have to tell how likely is that some addresses are yours.
Of course, my list will contain the Poloniex deposit address as mine, for example and may not be certain if my paper wallet is really mine.
It all depends on how many and how complicated your transactions are.

And the fact there are altcoins, many and more of them, makes the job even more complicated in some cases.
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Are you kidding?  FBI has been doing it for a long time now.  Very easy to do.  Very hard to undo.

If a user have bitcoin on wallet on which his ID is not linked to. Then this is impossible for authority to do that and place his information into a database.

There are millions of wallets. How many of them are linked to ids?Huh
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Would a tumbler not instantly fix any problems your having with your details getting linked? or is it still possible for them to track you down after a good mixing?
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It won't be too difficult if they have access to Exchange databases with user information.

which mean that it would be difficult because not everyone is exchanging on a exchange with his ID, many are exchanging in real life or simply avoid those exchange that require sensible datas

it would be a cuncomplete database at best, also it's not like terrorist are so stupid to use an exchange with their ID come on...
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As Bitcoin isn't anonymous, they can always follow the blockchain from the points of access and exit from Fiat.
It doesn't sound to me like it would be too difficult to do, I think a program could follow the bitcoins very easily.

You would be able to get around it if you so chose, make a fresh address and mix the coins or trade through Alts like Monero or Dash, then back into Bitcoin, then you should be anonymous again.

Important for me is that they can't close my account, like they could with a bank account. They can look but they can't touch!
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I think that the only solution would be that there would be a fork on bitcoin that added chance for more private transactions, im not sure if the current algorhytm (SHA-256) allows to do that.
That is the reason why mixing your bitcoins is always a good choice, the fees are not that bad to pay for privacy. And also when they do this, they are driving us into more secure solutions, i think that it's no one's business what i do with my coins.
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It won't be too difficult if they have access to Exchange databases with user information.

They already have or can have whenever they want. If this will stop the dirty immigrants turned into terrorist pigs from invading Europe it's actually a very good thing. Privacy is just a myth anyways. Big Brother is always watching  Grin
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This is blatant abuse of our privacy how can they even do this. So I read in one reply if you link your bank account only then they can get tour details. So mine isn't linked so does that mean my address is safe. But what could the possible outcome if they actually have our details. Why would the exchanges give them, isn't it a violation of our privacy? 

I do agree but information about our cryptowallets and usernames are on the internet already. It seems they are only compiling the data and put it in internet. I think our privacy is compromise but data are also elsewhere on the net, how much more if your name is after your wallet address posted on net.
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This is blatant abuse of our privacy how can they even do this. So I read in one reply if you link your bank account only then they can get tour details. So mine isn't linked so does that mean my address is safe. But what could the possible outcome if they actually have our details. Why would the exchanges give them, isn't it a violation of our privacy? 
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https://coinidol.com/eu-planning-a-database-to-link-user-ids-to-cryptocurrency-wallets/

Is this simply possible to make?

I know that anybody can create his own wallet with his own application on desktop. How can EU collect all those information. This simply seems impossible to put into action.

What do you think?

We anticipated this. We are making Monero.
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Are you kidding?  FBI has been doing it for a long time now.  Very easy to do.  Very hard to undo.
How do you know this? Do you have any source confirming that revelation? I am not saying that this is bs. I am very much inclined to believe that they are doing something like this.
After all people were kept in the dark about global surveillance programs PRISM, Echelon, Tempora, Dishfire, SORM and many more.
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This will only work as long as people will keep linking their bank accounts to their coins. It's not that easy to link a person's name to an address, let's not forget that one person can switch between multiple wallets in a matter of seconds and own hundreds of addresses and to make an address one needs literally a second. What if people start buying stuff in stores with bitcoin? Will the shop owners start asking for your ID?
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It won't be too difficult if they have access to Exchange databases with user information.
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Is this simply possible to make?
Yes it is, and correct me if I'm wrong coinbase already did this.
How can EU collect all those information. This simply seems impossible to put into action.
Simple, if some big companies or exchanging sites will have a deal or working together with EU regarding to this then they can have personal information gave by users of particular exchange.
What do you think?
This will be good to government side to monitor and to determine those who do illegal doings with bitcoin, and to take tax for this. But for those people who have privacy issues then its very difficult to them.
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Are you kidding?  FBI has been doing it for a long time now.  Very easy to do.  Very hard to undo.
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https://coinidol.com/eu-planning-a-database-to-link-user-ids-to-cryptocurrency-wallets/

Is this simply possible to make?

I know that anybody can create his own wallet with his own application on desktop. How can EU collect all those information. This simply seems impossible to put into action.

What do you think?
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