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Quote from: Fredomago on August 25, 2021, 02:00:05 PM

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Quote from: poldanmig on August 25, 2021, 09:58:23 AM

I think it's not wrong for people to gamble on sports that are held every 4 years, as long as they can still control their emotions in making bets, I think gamblers also have their favorite team in the euro last year and maybe because of that factor they bet for the victory of their favorite team they, in my opinion, rehabilitation is not the right step to get rid of gambling addiction and actually gambling addiction is different from drug addiction which has a big influence in damaging our brain nerves.

Sure it is not bad to bet on sports that is held every 4 years. But then again just like what the OP posted " it seems that the return of live sports is causing problems to some gamblers that have been struggling with addiction". So, it's clear that there are gamblers that aren't able to control themselves and they needed professional help. That's why I said rehabilitation. also, do you really think that rehabilitation only treat drug addiction? Anyway, if rehabilition is not the right step. Do you have suggestions on what is the right step?

Rehab can help those addicted gamblers to cool down and correct whatever damages that this gambling vice affected their mindsets. Professional help alongside with self-will be the best thing to counter this concern.

It's not bad if you are just occasionally betting or you still have good control over your gambling activities.

But if you are already engaged that much and you cannot control yourself, it's indeed that you really have to go to the process of rehabilitations,.

Gambling or any other addictions are just the same in the concepts of malfunctions inside your brain, things that can be corrected
if the person is really willing to cooperate with the professional who's trying to help him.

Rehab would just be the last resort you would have if you cant help yourself on your own and next by your loved ones when it comes to your addiction.Although not all does have the capacity on acquiring these service due to some cost and not all would really be that open nor willing to approach these professionals to seek off for some help.

Gambling games or sports event is always there but i dont see for those things to get blamed off when someones do get addicted because this is something a personal problem that you do
need to resolve on your own.

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 25, 2021, 01:12:55 PM

Quote from: poldanmig on August 25, 2021, 09:58:23 AM

I think it's not wrong for people to gamble on sports that are held every 4 years, as long as they can still control their emotions in making bets, I think gamblers also have their favorite team in the euro last year and maybe because of that factor they bet for the victory of their favorite team they, in my opinion, rehabilitation is not the right step to get rid of gambling addiction and actually gambling addiction is different from drug addiction which has a big influence in damaging our brain nerves.

Sure it is not bad to bet on sports that is held every 4 years. But then again just like what the OP posted " it seems that the return of live sports is causing problems to some gamblers that have been struggling with addiction". So, it's clear that there are gamblers that aren't able to control themselves and they needed professional help. That's why I said rehabilitation. also, do you really think that rehabilitation only treat drug addiction? Anyway, if rehabilition is not the right step. Do you have suggestions on what is the right step?

Rehab can help those addicted gamblers to cool down and correct whatever damages that this gambling vice affected their mindsets. Professional help alongside with self-will be the best thing to counter this concern.

It's not bad if you are just occasionally betting or you still have good control over your gambling activities.

But if you are already engaged that much and you cannot control yourself, it's indeed that you really have to go to the process of rehabilitations,.

Gambling or any other addictions are just the same in the concepts of malfunctions inside your brain, things that can be corrected
if the person is really willing to cooperate with the professional who's trying to help him.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 24, 2021, 01:17:21 PM

As we know gambling addictions and all kind of addictions went up during the pandemic as people tried to find a way to cope with the stress of being on their homes, however it seems that the return of live sports is causing problems to some gamblers that have been struggling with addiction as a charity organization revealed the event caused a spike of 28% on the helpline calls they received during that time, this is problematic as those that developed the habit during the pandemic were very limited on the number of events they could bet on, but as restrictions are lifted the options increased and they have no way to deal with this.

What do you think would be the best option to those that are experimenting these issues right now? Should they stop watching sports forever as this is the trigger that causes them to gamble without control or should another solution be possible?

https://news.sky.com/story/euro-2020-tournament-caused-spike-in-gambling-problems-says-charity-which-warns-of-return-of-live-sports-12387574

Refusing to watch sports broadcasts is not a solution to the problem.

In addition, the problems of people suffering from gambling addiction cannot be the basis for the prohibition of sports games.

The revival of the Olympic Games and the holding of international sports competitions are very important events for all mankind. Great sport unites people.

However, there is a problem.

Gambling addicts need help. First of all, they need an interesting Life Style. This will allow them to get rid of gambling addiction.

They can still enjoy watching sports events!

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Quote from: Silberman on August 24, 2021, 01:17:21 PM

As we know gambling addictions and all kind of addictions went up during the pandemic as people tried to find a way to cope with the stress of being on their homes, however it seems that the return of live sports is causing problems to some gamblers that have been struggling with addiction as a charity organization revealed the event caused a spike of 28% on the helpline calls they received during that time, this is problematic as those that developed the habit during the pandemic were very limited on the number of events they could bet on, but as restrictions are lifted the options increased and they have no way to deal with this.

I assumed that people staying at home was the reason why the addiction got up, live games was not something in my mind that would cause people to gamble more. Like dice and slots and many other things looked tasty during pandemic for me, and I did gamble slightly more than what I normally would, mainly because I also made a lot more money but at least I did what I had to do.

At the end of the day, we are talking about crypto gambling here and you can do that from home and during pandemic too many people were at home, if that didn't increase the amount of gambling happening and the number of addiction helpline numbers, then I do not know why the live ones did so much, during the live period we were able to get out and talk to people a bit, sure still mask on and everything but we were still capable of going out, but the worst part was when we were all at home and can gamble with a click.

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Quote from: poldanmig on August 25, 2021, 09:58:23 AM

I think it's not wrong for people to gamble on sports that are held every 4 years, as long as they can still control their emotions in making bets, I think gamblers also have their favorite team in the euro last year and maybe because of that factor they bet for the victory of their favorite team they, in my opinion, rehabilitation is not the right step to get rid of gambling addiction and actually gambling addiction is different from drug addiction which has a big influence in damaging our brain nerves.

Sure it is not bad to bet on sports that is held every 4 years. But then again just like what the OP posted " it seems that the return of live sports is causing problems to some gamblers that have been struggling with addiction". So, it's clear that there are gamblers that aren't able to control themselves and they needed professional help. That's why I said rehabilitation. also, do you really think that rehabilitation only treat drug addiction? Anyway, if rehabilition is not the right step. Do you have suggestions on what is the right step?

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 25, 2021, 07:43:15 AM

It isn't the sports or charities who should adjust but rather those who are experiencing gambling addiction to seek professional help because it's a personal issue due to personal choice. Any form of addiction would be hard to be cured and it will take time. However, self-control and self-discipline would be a big help if a person is willing to change his path.

Exactly, like what they say, don't shoot the messenger. I think the best thing to do in that kind of situation is to always seek professional help. @Obito might be right you know, the spike could be a temporary thing or a coincidence of some sort.

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 25, 2021, 02:33:19 AM

Rehabilitation. If you love the sport why deprive yourself from it when you can suprress the urge to gamble when watching the sport or actually free yourself from the urge of gambling through rehabilitation. Sure it would take months or even years but the end result is that you would still be able to watch your favorite sport.

I think it's not wrong for people to gamble on sports that are held every 4 years, as long as they can still control their emotions in making bets, I think gamblers also have their favorite team in the euro last year and maybe because of that factor they bet for the victory of their favorite team they, in my opinion, rehabilitation is not the right step to get rid of gambling addiction and actually gambling addiction is different from drug addiction which has a big influence in damaging our brain nerves.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 24, 2021, 01:17:21 PM

What do you think would be the best option to those that are experimenting these issues right now? Should they stop watching sports forever as this is the trigger that causes them to gamble without control or should another solution be possible?

These people should control their greed instead of stopping watching sports. Because the addicted gamblers would gamble anyway, be it Euro cup or F1 race. Addicted gamblers are usually driven by greed rather than sports. They try to sniff for opportunities and gamble accordingly.

Also the helpline has seen an increase of 28% in phone calls seeking for help. I would assume more than 70% gamblers didn't even bother to call. So the number of affected people are much bigger. Unfortunately there is no permanent solution where gambling business is a legal form of business.

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It isn't the sports or charities who should adjust but rather those who are experiencing gambling addiction to seek professional help because it's a personal issue due to personal choice. Any form of addiction would be hard to be cured and it will take time. However, self-control and self-discipline would be a big help if a person is willing to change his path.

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 25, 2021, 02:33:19 AM

Rehabilitation. If the love the sport why deprive yourself from it when you can suprress the urge to gamble when watching the sport or actually free yourself from the urge of gambling through rehabilitation. Sure it would take months or even years but the end result is that you would still be able to watch your favorite sport.

It's not the sport that's the problem no matter what angle you look at, you're right that rehabilitation is the key for them to cure their gambling addiction, I think the spike is just a temporary thing, remember that the country came out of a lockdown and a lot of people misses betting on live sports but it could also be coincidental.

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 25, 2021, 02:33:19 AM

Rehabilitation. If the love the sport why deprive yourself from it when you can suprress the urge to gamble when watching the sport or actually free yourself from the urge of gambling through rehabilitation. Sure it would take months or even years but the end result is that you would still be able to watch your favorite sport.

So that will be worth going to rehabilitation because at least they can suppress the urge to gamble or even solve the addiction problem. But most addicted people to gambling will not want to go to that place and they will not admit that they are addicted to gambling. It is a serious matter for them because if they can not realize it by themselves, they will not have a chance to get out of the addiction and even they will getting deeper into the addiction.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 24, 2021, 01:17:21 PM

What do you think would be the best option to those that are experimenting these issues right now? Should they stop watching sports forever as this is the trigger that causes them to gamble without control or should another solution be possible?
https://news.sky.com/story/euro-2020-tournament-caused-spike-in-gambling-problems-says-charity-which-warns-of-return-of-live-sports-12387574

If a person is addicted to something, it's often best to let go of the whole thing to fight addiction. It's like alcohol addicts often don't drink a single drop of alcohol because it triggers their addiction, so not betting on sports at all might be a good choice. As for watching the sports, it's best not to do it if it creates the urge to bet, but perhaps a person could remain engaged by watching games only on repeat, for instance, or trying to play sports instead of watching them. Addiction is also often a reaction to something else, such as loneliness, personal life problems, etc., so looking into the root of the problem and solving it might be helpful to fight addiction. Also, since addiction is a compulsive repetitive behavior, one can try tackling it in the same way other compulsive behaviors are tackled: a good and realistic solution can be switching to another repetitive behavior, but the one that is less harmful, and forming a new habit to replace the old one.

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Rehabilitation. If you love the sport why deprive yourself from it when you can suprress the urge to gamble when watching the sport or actually free yourself from the urge of gambling through rehabilitation. Sure it would take months or even years but the end result is that you would still be able to watch your favorite sport.

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Quote from: Strongkored on August 24, 2021, 11:42:21 PM

An increase during euro 2020 is common because there are big tournaments that will definitely make a lot of people interested in betting, the comparison is the previous year where there were no big tournaments, so the increase is only tentative can't be said to be an issues
Forbidding people to watch sports is not the right thing, if watching sports matches will make people interested in gambling then they must use professionals to solve the problems experienced by that person.

I agree with you, this spike is pretty normal, it's just what follows big events. And rise in gambling activities is not the only rise, I am sure people drink more, spend more money and all that... It's exciting when big things are happening and people tend to relax more than usual.
I am not a supporter of forbidding and banning, people should learn how to gamble. To not risk more than they can afford to lose, to not risk their health and all other stuff that can comes from gambling.

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Quote from: Strongkored on August 24, 2021, 11:42:21 PM

An increase during euro 2020 is common because there are big tournaments that will definitely make a lot of people interested in betting, the comparison is the previous year where there were no big tournaments, so the increase is only tentative can't be said to be an issues
Forbidding people to watch sports is not the right thing, if watching sports matches will make people interested in gambling then they must use professionals to solve the problems experienced by that person.

There are many recreational gamblers who bet on only occasional events and only select sports or teams. For instance, some follow local or national teams and only bet on them. I am among them.
We shouldn't be surprised by such big events as the European Championship or the Olympics causing an increase in sports betting, as they attract many casual amateur gamblers. As the number of gamblers increases, gambling addiction will inevitably increase as well.

Putting restrictions on sports events can only lead to bigger problems because people will turn to other methods of recreation and entertainment which are sometimes even more dangerous. The most important thing is to recognize when gambling stops being fun and becomes a problem. Such people should be offered help at the earliest stage to avoid more serious consequences.

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 24, 2021, 05:44:06 PM

It is a personal matter. There are those fans that just like to watch as they're really bored at home while those gamblers, there's no way to stop them with their own gambling habits. The solution I guess is to increase the number of helpline workers to manage those calls at the same time and there will be more of those that will handle those gamblers that are calling them. They don't have to quit watching those sports forever, it's like prohibiting them to have fun. As long as there's someone and some help that comes to them, they'll manage to overcome it.

This...this is the right way to solve the problem, prohibition will only lead to them being more secretive of their gambling habit which will definitely bee much worse. I want to take an example from a drug addiction standpoint, there's Anthony and Hillel, Anthony is open to his drug addiction but Hillel is much more secretive, Anthony ended up getting the help that he needed while Hillel ended OD. That's the same for addiction to gambling, you will end up much worse if there's a prohibition that leads to secrecy.

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I don't think its the return of sports bets that is causing problems to this gamblers. A gambler will definitely remain a gambler. I will agree with the fact that the number of gamblers after the pandemic got increased because of the lockdown which made people stay at home without any thing doing to generate funds. But for the addictors I think it's their choice and shouldn't be tied to Euro 2020

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 24, 2021, 04:48:33 PM

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What do you think would be the best option to those that are experimenting these issues right now? Should they stop watching sports forever as this is the trigger that causes them to gamble without control or should another solution be possible?

If you genuinely think that issues are caused by the sport itself, then go for it.

But I think that 9/10 it's more of a skewed mindset that is causing problem gambling.

I was thinking this precisely.

Such headlines are too simple for such a complex problem. First, we need to look at the personality type of those who have developed problems, and then look at the context, how the pandemic and lockdowns have affected them.

Quote from: Kyraishi on August 24, 2021, 04:48:33 PM

People are not seeing gambling as a way to have fun, but rather to make money, and that is a very very dangerous thing to get into.

This is something that should be taught in high school when teaching basic statistics. Ideally, gambling should be used to pass the time, entertain yourself, and knowing that in that session you can take more money than you bet, so maybe you will do more things/spend more on the weekend, but knowing that it is a very bad strategy to try to get rich in the long term.

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Restrictions of the amount to gamble but I think some gambling websites already have that. Maybe stricter or lesser amount. I don't know, they may run out of business if that happens.
It's difficult to make a rule that will benefit both sides. I am part of those gamblers that have increased the amount to gamble because of lack to do at home.
Every job I have now is "work from home" style and I can't even go outside when I have the free time. Putting bets became a habit even if I try to look for other ways to entertain myself. i.e. Animes and Series.
Controlling it may become a difficult task for the government with sports gambling market soaring. They even advertise it during big events like in Pacquiao fight, DraftKings.

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An increase during euro 2020 is common because there are big tournaments that will definitely make a lot of people interested in betting, the comparison is the previous year where there were no big tournaments, so the increase is only tentative can't be said to be an issues
Forbidding people to watch sports is not the right thing, if watching sports matches will make people interested in gambling then they must use professionals to solve the problems experienced by that person.

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