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Quote from: justdimin on August 04, 2022, 04:18:34 PM

So, if we are saying that euro is impacted because of the war, it actually means every single fiat was impacted because of it and will continue to do so for a long time.

It was fiat of those countries that heavily depend on energy imports or have their economy interconnected with countries that do. For example Germany depends heavily on cheap gas imports, so they are affected the most. Some countries in EU that don't depend on such imports as much are also affected because of the correlation. US economy is also affected because of correlation and the fact that US dollar's value (seen in US high inflation these days) is affected as some countries dumped it as trade/reserve currency.

This impact on countries decreases the more the country is independent specially about energy.
A good example is Russian Ruble that keeps going up.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on August 02, 2022, 12:21:59 PM

I mean sure it went down, there is a looming threat of war on the continent and major changes are under way regarding the energy sector, so with that much turmoil, it definatelly had an impact. So nothing out of the unexpected here. How EU handles the energy crisis will have a major factor in how it's curency behaves in the future.

It's not really a "threat" of war, Ukraine is in Europe and the whole fight is about keeping the parts where Russians live mostly, so that Russia could have a buffer zone with Europe in between them with a brand-new Ukrainian territory under their name.

We are not going to just get this war in the Europe, we are actually having it all around the world, how? The gas prices jacked up because of this and the people in the USA are getting screwed about it, let alone people in poorer nations. So, if we are saying that euro is impacted because of the war, it actually means every single fiat was impacted because of it and will continue to do so for a long time.

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Quote from: pooya87 on August 01, 2022, 10:11:15 AM

If I had to guess, I'd say there is a 70% chance of invasion.
The analysts I follow believe that there is a 100% chance of invasion but they think it could happen when it gets colder to see what happens to EU with an energy crisis and soaring prices.

Things are becoming more tense than ever, Nancy Pelosi's surprise visit will be the trigger for the upcoming battle. If it happens, I will not hesitate to say that the Americans are once again the ones who started the war.

Quote from: pooya87 on August 03, 2022, 02:07:07 AM

What EU needs is independence. For example imagine what the world would have looked like if EU as part of NATO accepted the Russian concerns about their expansion eastward and stopped escalating despite what US demanded of them. We would not have seen Ukraine invasion in first place and EU economy wouldn't have been in this situation for euro to even collapse!

Stopping dependence on the US is what the EU needs, but I can't imagine that happening and the US will never let that happen. The war of Russia and Ukraine made the EU region more dependent and the US succeeded once again.

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Quote from: Abiky on August 02, 2022, 08:31:13 PM

The EU needs a strong monetary policy in order to prevent the EUR currency from collapsing.

What EU needs is independence. For example imagine what the world would have looked like if EU as part of NATO accepted the Russian concerns about their expansion eastward and stopped escalating despite what US demanded of them. We would not have seen Ukraine invasion in first place and EU economy wouldn't have been in this situation for euro to even collapse!

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The growing energy crisis as a result of the Russian-Ukrainian war has brought about many major economic changes, especially in Europe. As a result of European dependence on Russian gas, Europe has caused many problems and the depreciation of the euro. Winter is coming strongly, and Europe needs more Russian gas to heat and operate factories, so they will find themselves forced to reach To resolve with Russia to save themselves.

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Quote from: pooya87 on July 31, 2022, 11:42:42 PM

The tensions are rising back up again with US-China face off close to Taiwan these past days and Russia cutting off gas to Latvia and on top of that with NATO military drills in Russian neighborhood and a couple more cases.
During all this, interestingly enough Russian Ruble keeps going up against USD!

We have to see where all these new tensions are going to lead to and whether we are going to see a member of NATO being threatened because if it does Euro could tank hard.

Things don't look bright for EU and the rest of the world. Another war would further plunge the value of EUR as we speak. The US Dollar could also be affected as inflation grows to a point where it's uncontrollable by the FED. Everything has gone downhill after the COVID-19 pandemic took the world by storm around 3 years ago. Whenever or not there will be a light at the end of the tunnel, it's yet to be seen. The EU needs a strong monetary policy in order to prevent the EUR currency from collapsing. It's leadership is weak, so don't expect the EUR to recover in the time-being. Who knows what the future holds for the Union? Just my opinion

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I mean sure it went down, there is a looming threat of war on the continent and major changes are under way regarding the energy sector, so with that much turmoil, it definatelly had an impact. So nothing out of the unexpected here. How EU handles the energy crisis will have a major factor in how it's curency behaves in the future.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on August 01, 2022, 09:48:28 AM

I don't think Putin will cut gas completely, they will stay at the current 20% or maybe a little lower. The gas cuts will not benefit Russia, they will lose some revenue and will have nothing left against the EU. Winter is coming and it is becoming increasingly impossible to fill gas storage in the EU. Russia is succeeding in dividing the EU.

They surely will not cut gas, if they did that then the problem with the sanctions will come back all over again. Think about it, the only reason they came out of this alive in the first place was the fact that all of the Russians that could take their money out managed to do that and they are still making tens of billions of dollars in profit.

If they stop doing that today, then they are going to end up regretting what they are doing and they will go back to financial crisis all over again. In a world where everyone is having financial trouble, they had one way out, which blocks them from a lot of freedom, but having financial freedom at least.

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Quote from: pooya87 on August 01, 2022, 10:11:15 AM

If I had to guess, I'd say there is a 70% chance of invasion.
The analysts I follow believe that there is a 100% chance of invasion but they think it could happen when it gets colder to see what happens to EU with an energy crisis and soaring prices.

Time and again there comes the situation which are unpredictable.
European union has ruined their economy and also they have created so much problems for the world but putting so many sections on the Russia - now everyone is bad situation.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on August 01, 2022, 09:48:28 AM

Which EU country are you referring to?

There are some tensions between Russia and the latest members and members to-be of NATO. Namely Lithuania, Latvia, Finland and Sweden. Thankfully, so far the tensions are not of a military nature. It just targets their economy.

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Do you think there will be a war between China and Taiwan. China has stated and pointed directly at the US on the Taiwan issue and I think China is seriously considering the use of force to unify Taiwan.

It is hard to predict.

I thought the tensions there were going down but unfortunately US increased the tensions again.
What we know is that China is not going to accept Taiwan's independence and they will definitely not accept US presence in Taiwan (remember Cuban missile crisis?).
China is also ready for a full scale invasion as they have both warned and ran many simulations and military drills exercising it.
They are also going to run another drill with live rounds in about a hundred kilometers from Taiwan as that US politician visits Taiwan!

Chinese move towards Solomon Islands is also another indication that they are planning for war as this place is very good strategic place. Same role it had in WWII (both sides lost thousands of troops fighting over these islands).

If I had to guess, I'd say there is a 70% chance of invasion.
The analysts I follow believe that there is a 100% chance of invasion but they think it could happen when it gets colder to see what happens to EU with an energy crisis and soaring prices.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on July 27, 2022, 12:38:54 AM

Gas supplies are dwindling, if Russia really cuts off supplies completely then I think Europe will be in a recession quickly. Russia may have been preparing for this war for decades, and Europe has been too dismissive of Russia when it comes to sanctions. Russian gas and oil revenues have tripled from pre-war levels, which the US and EU have miscalculated.

The war not only pushed the European economy into crisis but also caused division within the EU, so I still believe that the euro will fall even further in the near future. It doesn't stop here.

Europe will be doomed if Russia cuts off gas supplies for good. The EUR will have a hard time rising back to its former glory if this happens. European countries need to act fast by finding an alternative solution to the gas/energy problem. Importing such resources from other countries would be the ideal strategy for the EU's long-term survival. The US won't have any problems since its dependency on Russia's natural resources are pretty low. Even with inflation, the US Dollar is still the reserve currency of the world. Things aren't looking very bright with the Russia-Ukraine war these days, so we should expect the EUR to remain at its lowest in the time-being. Just my opinion

I don't think Putin will cut gas completely, they will stay at the current 20% or maybe a little lower. The gas cuts will not benefit Russia, they will lose some revenue and will have nothing left against the EU. Winter is coming and it is becoming increasingly impossible to fill gas storage in the EU. Russia is succeeding in dividing the EU.

Quote from: pooya87 on July 31, 2022, 11:42:42 PM

The tensions are rising back up again with US-China face off close to Taiwan these past days and Russia cutting off gas to Latvia and on top of that with NATO military drills in Russian neighborhood and a couple more cases.
During all this, interestingly enough Russian Ruble keeps going up against USD!

We have to see where all these new tensions are going to lead to and whether we are going to see a member of NATO being threatened because if it does Euro could tank hard.

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Which EU country are you referring to? Do you think there will be a war between China and Taiwan. China has stated and pointed directly at the US on the Taiwan issue and I think China is seriously considering the use of force to unify Taiwan.

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Quote from: 325btc on July 09, 2022, 07:11:28 AM

There is no demand for eur currency eurpe dont produce anything to export out of eu.
The biggest winners are those who sell things like russia and also norway since russia is out of the game the norway will take whole eu market so expect NOK to going parabolic bull run against eur currency the world will be full of unwanted eur currency so value of euro going down since everybody want to exchange their euros to get other currencies.
Off course winners are those who produce something and do a lot exports off course not goods but energy such us gas and electricity.

This is what is called expertise in making new breakthroughs, it is not an easy matter to break a certain currency and then make a profit by selling it, especially with regard to energy, this is the world's need for now, gas and electricity are things that must be met, this will break issues that developed in the past few weeks, if Russia and Norway are the winners, then this will be a new force for future development

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The tensions are rising back up again with US-China face off close to Taiwan these past days and Russia cutting off gas to Latvia and on top of that with NATO military drills in Russian neighborhood and a couple more cases.
During all this, interestingly enough Russian Ruble keeps going up against USD!

We have to see where all these new tensions are going to lead to and whether we are going to see a member of NATO being threatened because if it does Euro could tank hard.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on July 27, 2022, 12:38:54 AM

Gas supplies are dwindling, if Russia really cuts off supplies completely then I think Europe will be in a recession quickly. Russia may have been preparing for this war for decades, and Europe has been too dismissive of Russia when it comes to sanctions. Russian gas and oil revenues have tripled from pre-war levels, which the US and EU have miscalculated.

The war not only pushed the European economy into crisis but also caused division within the EU, so I still believe that the euro will fall even further in the near future. It doesn't stop here.

Europe will be doomed if Russia cuts off gas supplies for good. The EUR will have a hard time rising back to its former glory if this happens. European countries need to act fast by finding an alternative solution to the gas/energy problem. Importing such resources from other countries would be the ideal strategy for the EU's long-term survival. The US won't have any problems since its dependency on Russia's natural resources are pretty low. Even with inflation, the US Dollar is still the reserve currency of the world. Things aren't looking very bright with the Russia-Ukraine war these days, so we should expect the EUR to remain at its lowest in the time-being. Just my opinion

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Quote from: Abiky on July 26, 2022, 08:26:30 PM

I guess sanctions really backfired, putting the rest of the world in peril while Russia grows bigger and stronger than ever.

The problem is that the Western bloc didn't just sanction Russia alone. They have been sanctioning a lot of countries and Russia was the last straw. Now the other bloc in the opposite side of the Western block (US+EU) is actually the majority in geography, population and economy. On top of that they control almost all the world's energy amongst themselves.

This is why it backfired. Otherwise if it were Russia alone, EU could have easily replaced all that energy with other sources and rescue their countries from falling apart.

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Quote from: Abiky on July 26, 2022, 08:26:30 PM

Quote from: cabron on July 11, 2022, 12:53:43 PM

The one that EU need the most is energy, they are all dependent to gas but they also wanted the world to stop extracting gas/fossil fuel. Actually its not just them, everywhere in the world needs gas to power up the cities.

Didn't they also printed EUROs last Covid? The problem with printing banknotes while your currency is not the reserve currency is that, its your country that is affected the most unlike with US printing USD is that every country suffers the inflation.

The EURO is weakening thanks to the COVID-19 pandemic and the on-going Russia-Ukraine conflict. Russia's decision to cut Europe from gas/energy supplies, will greatly undermine the region's economy. The US Dollar is still the world's reserve currency, anyways. For things to get back to normal, COVID-19 and the Russia-Ukraine crisis must disappear for good. Things don't look bright right now, so we should expect further declines in EUR's value.

Ironically, the Russian Ruble is back on its feet after sanctions imposed by Western countries and the EU. I guess sanctions really backfired, putting the rest of the world in peril while Russia grows bigger and stronger than ever. Let's see what will happen during the course of the year as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine intensifies. Just my opinion

Gas supplies are dwindling, if Russia really cuts off supplies completely then I think Europe will be in a recession quickly. Russia may have been preparing for this war for decades, and Europe has been too dismissive of Russia when it comes to sanctions. Russian gas and oil revenues have tripled from pre-war levels, which the US and EU have miscalculated.

The war not only pushed the European economy into crisis but also caused division within the EU, so I still believe that the euro will fall even further in the near future. It doesn't stop here.

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Quote from: cabron on July 11, 2022, 12:53:43 PM

The one that EU need the most is energy, they are all dependent to gas but they also wanted the world to stop extracting gas/fossil fuel. Actually its not just them, everywhere in the world needs gas to power up the cities.

Didn't they also printed EUROs last Covid? The problem with printing banknotes while your currency is not the reserve currency is that, its your country that is affected the most unlike with US printing USD is that every country suffers the inflation.

The EURO is weakening thanks to the COVID-19 pandemic and the on-going Russia-Ukraine conflict. Russia's decision to cut Europe from gas/energy supplies, will greatly undermine the region's economy. The US Dollar is still the world's reserve currency, anyways. For things to get back to normal, COVID-19 and the Russia-Ukraine crisis must disappear for good. Things don't look bright right now, so we should expect further declines in EUR's value.

Ironically, the Russian Ruble is back on its feet after sanctions imposed by Western countries and the EU. I guess sanctions really backfired, putting the rest of the world in peril while Russia grows bigger and stronger than ever. Let's see what will happen during the course of the year as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine intensifies. Just my opinion

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Quote from: Hydrogen on July 25, 2022, 07:45:07 PM

Europe tried to increase the value of its tech sector by imposing steep anti trust fines on google, microsoft and american big tech. The declining value of the euro would appear to imply this strategy is not working. Declining values of real estate in european nations would also seem to concur.

Europe lacks the high influx of engineering and science talent that america enjoys. Everyone wants a silicon valley megacorp on their job history. Europe has no brand name recognition or big dollar start up capital in emerging tech fields. It also doesn't have much in the way of raw materials, commodities or a manufacturing sector. In contrast to other emerging world economies, europe isn't taking the proper steps to be competitive or influential in global markets.

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Europe tried to increase the value of its tech sector by imposing steep anti trust fines on google, microsoft and american big tech. The declining value of the euro would appear to imply this strategy is not working. Declining values of real estate in european nations would also seem to concur.

Europe lacks the high influx of engineering and science talent that america enjoys. Everyone wants a silicon valley megacorp on their job history. Europe has no brand name recognition or big dollar start up capital in emerging tech fields. It also doesn't have much in the way of raw materials, commodities or a manufacturing sector. In contrast to other emerging world economies, europe isn't taking the proper steps to be competitive or influential in global markets.

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Quote from: trendcoin on July 23, 2022, 01:41:43 PM

The rapid change between euro and dollar upsets the balance... Countries exporting products to Europe will receive low-value Euros. Then they will import raw materials with high-value dollars from the global market for the products they will manufacture. At this point they will experience an imbalance. They can fix this problem by rearranging their prices. However, those who cannot follow the rapid change closely will have some losses. As a result, we are talking about a temporary problem that could undermine production and prices. We can all be affected by this.

I am in a country where we receive payments with the local currencies with some exception for people like me who are here because of International companies and get paid in our preferred currency,most people here are greatly irritated because the prices are in EUR and EUR used to be much stronger than the local currency but now they are happy and are even blaming more the EUR to go further down to get our lost "financial freedom" they say.I also am someone who gets paid in USD and USD is my favorite currency so as long as USD does well I don't really care if EUR goes further down.EUR has really destroyed many EU economies,especially Italy which used to be a great country when they had the "Liretta" coin and after EUR screwed them up,then Greece and a couple of others.

So it depend from the point of view,for some EUR goes down bring losses for some other profit.

and they did that damage to themselves.
I have mentioned in so many forum before to take a neutral stance - the EU went far beyond to put sanctions on Russia and now the other countries are rushing to Russia for oil supply and EU is look here and there like a fool what to do next.

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