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Topic: [EUROPE only]Buy Gold and Silver Instant|+Receive Cash Payouts|+Instant noodles (Read 1734 times)

legendary
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If you create a 100 gramm copper bar and plate it with gold, its still able to identify it. Because copper got  a different density.
Of course, this is why I wrote "alloy".
Gold is 19320 kg/m3
Tungsten is 19600 kg/m3

So mixing Tungsten ($100+/kg) and a little of a lighter metal can produce an alloy with the exact same density as gold. Once plated with gold I don't know how to tell the difference. My question was : does anyone here know?
There are various tests, some are intuitive (take a bar of silver, put it in a plastic bag, hit it. It has a very specific ring)
to technical. For gold and silver, take it to a real world PM shop and have it tested using acid (aqua fortis).

As for gold plated tungsten, that is hard but not impossible to detect, using either a drill or if you want non-destructive test, put a variable wave sine through it, tungsten and gold don't react the same. Same with ultrasonics.

There are many stories (urban legends) about this stuff, it only makes economical sense to fake larger size ingots. The only exception I've ever seen is the Chinese Panda coins but then again, most stuff coming from China is tainted ;-)

PS: You can fake siver with molybdenum as well

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/tungsten-filled-1-kilo-gold-bar-found-uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvM_4B7Pkc
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
If you create a 100 gramm copper bar and plate it with gold, its still able to identify it. Because copper got  a different density.
Of course, this is why I wrote "alloy".
Gold is 19320 kg/m3
Tungsten is 19600 kg/m3

So mixing Tungsten ($100+/kg) and a little of a lighter metal can produce an alloy with the exact same density as gold. Once plated with gold I don't know how to tell the difference. My question was : does anyone here know?
sr. member
Activity: 958
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I'm not really sold about gold or silver purchasing but I'm curious : how do you people make sure that the metal is pure?

I've never purchased gold or silver, but a carefully prepared alloy to mimic the density and gold or silver plating would most probably look the same than pure gold or silver to me (I don't think I've even seen a real ingot). There have been stories about fake ingots circulating so it's already happening. How do you select your sellers and how do you check the material (even if y our sellers are honest they might have been fooled themselves)?

I order the gold directly from the producer/manufacturer (Heraeus, Umicore, Degussa, ESG). So they cant be fake.

If you create a 100 gramm copper bar and plate it with gold, its still able to identify it. Because copper got  a different density.
hero member
Activity: 896
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I'm not really sold about gold or silver purchasing but I'm curious : how do you people make sure that the metal is pure?

I've never purchased gold or silver, but a carefully prepared alloy to mimic the density and gold or silver plating would most probably look the same than pure gold or silver to me (I don't think I've even seen a real ingot). There have been stories about fake ingots circulating so it's already happening. How do you select your sellers and how do you check the material (even if y our sellers are honest they might have been fooled themselves)?
legendary
Activity: 1112
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[...]I'm a happy customer, having bought from most other PM BTC shops, your service is excellent.[...]
I'm not sure what a "PM BTC shop" is, care to explain? Did you purchase gold or silver from other merchants with BTC ?

Precious Metals shop taking BTC

like coinabul, bitcoincommodities.com, ...
sr. member
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[...]I'm a happy customer, having bought from most other PM BTC shops, your service is excellent.[...]
I'm not sure what a "PM BTC shop" is, care to explain? Did you purchase gold or silver from other merchants with BTC ?

There's a few. Coinabul and my own Shire Silver sell precious metals for bitcoins.
hero member
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[...]I'm a happy customer, having bought from most other PM BTC shops, your service is excellent.[...]
I'm not sure what a "PM BTC shop" is, care to explain? Did you purchase gold or silver from other merchants with BTC ?
sr. member
Activity: 958
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Today! Get a 5 Euro discount! Coupon code "5off"


minimum order value: 100 Euro
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Special prices today!! lowered some Items!
legendary
Activity: 1112
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First Forum Member that posts his Order Number here gets a 10 Euro Cashback coupon

I think my order number is "0" as it's probably the first on you shipped out.

I can confirm I have received the items (20 grams gold, 100 grams silver) in good order. The only thing missing from the package was some kind of order reference letter or invoice

I'm a happy customer, having bought from most other PM BTC shops, your service is excellent.

If you can add realtime BTC pricing and some more items like 100 gram gold and 1kg silver, perhaps some 25 x silver coin options to avoid some of the VAT
sr. member
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Would you do discounts on bulk as the markup is somewhat high to spot price, on silver specifically.

Yes, i sent you a private message
sr. member
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Would you do discounts on bulk as the markup is somewhat high to spot price, on silver specifically.
sr. member
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tax on a currency? wtf? In Canada there are no such taxes on gold and silver.

There are "fees" if you want to receive cash money - currencies. Its the same as when you use a cash mashine with your credit card. They also charge a fee.
sr. member
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tax on a currency? wtf? In Canada there are no such taxes on gold and silver.
member
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So are you just selling gold, or are you also interested in buying gold? I would like to sell a few gram if you pay good

Yes, I buy gold at spot price. Where are you from?

Germany
sr. member
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So are you just selling gold, or are you also interested in buying gold? I would like to sell a few gram if you pay good

Yes, I buy gold at spot price. Where are you from?
member
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So are you just selling gold, or are you also interested in buying gold? I would like to sell a few gram if you pay good
sr. member
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You should try charging less than 50% markup on silver 1oz bars..
That is outrages and a horrible investment for most.

the silver bar prices are with 19% vat! .- Germany:/
sr. member
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For real ?
Gold, silver, ... and noodles ?!

Poll on preferred investment including "Ponzi ore" ?!

Seems legit...

ponzi ore is just like a insider joke;-)
hero member
Activity: 896
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For real ?
Gold, silver, ... and noodles ?!

Poll on preferred investment including "Ponzi ore" ?!

Seems legit...
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