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legendary
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March 31, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.

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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.

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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.


Lets see the cost for germany:

Refugees get shelter and food for free; additionaly per month as a adult 130 € and as an underage 90€.

130€ per month... billionaires soon.
Taking into account that it's not refugees. It's only asylum seekers accepted in the process of asylum seeking. Only a tiny minority of immigrants enter those processes. And they get deported if they are refused. It's plain legal immigration!

Yep you are right i used the wrong word.
legendary
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March 31, 2016, 11:42:38 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.

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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.

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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.


Lets see the cost for germany:

Refugees get shelter and food for free; additionaly per month as a adult 130 € and as an underage 90€.

130€ per month... billionaires soon.
Taking into account that it's not refugees. It's only asylum seekers accepted in the process of asylum seeking. Only a tiny minority of immigrants enter those processes. And they get deported if they are refused. It's plain legal immigration!


Who's paying for the cost of deportation and all that logistic put in place?



Who would pay for the wall you want to create?
legendary
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March 31, 2016, 11:26:04 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.

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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.

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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.


Lets see the cost for germany:

Refugees get shelter and food for free; additionaly per month as a adult 130 € and as an underage 90€.

130€ per month... billionaires soon.
Taking into account that it's not refugees. It's only asylum seekers accepted in the process of asylum seeking. Only a tiny minority of immigrants enter those processes. And they get deported if they are refused. It's plain legal immigration!


Who's paying for the cost of deportation and all that logistic put in place?

legendary
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March 31, 2016, 10:46:11 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.

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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.

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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.


Lets see the cost for germany:

Refugees get shelter and food for free; additionaly per month as a adult 130 € and as an underage 90€.

130€ per month... billionaires soon.
Taking into account that it's not refugees. It's only asylum seekers accepted in the process of asylum seeking. Only a tiny minority of immigrants enter those processes. And they get deported if they are refused. It's plain legal immigration!
legendary
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March 31, 2016, 10:43:55 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.

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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.

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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.


Lets see the cost for germany:

Refugees get shelter, food, medical aid and education for free (all the basic stuff mainly); additionaly per month as a adult 130 € and as an underage 90€.

130€ per month... billionaires soon.

This is not a good life for even syrian middle class.
I can assure you this people will have to work to get a life standard that you define as good.
legendary
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March 31, 2016, 10:30:03 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.
No but saying things which are not true is called BS
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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
So do I, difference seems to be our knowledge of our institutions...
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Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.
Your sources being? Because last time I checked, at least French government didn't spend anything on refugees.
The only true thing here is that they get access to free medecine.
Well sorry dude but yes we live in countries where we heal people first then ask for their credit card after...
But that doesn't make anything like billions of euros! That makes a few millions euros for the whole Europe! Do you think that's something really important?
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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.
Whaou, well you live in a cool country if government subsidize associations. In France the government doesn't pay for associations, or neglictable amounts. Donations are the primary ressources of associations.
hero member
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March 31, 2016, 10:18:45 AM
Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?
Not liking something does not make it bullshit.

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European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!!
This on the other hand is plain bullshit! I live in Europe. Any other assumptions?
Germany for instance is spending many billions on illegals claiming to be refugees after travelling through countless safe countries. Other Western European countries spend billions of euros on them too. On top of shelter, food, medical aid and education they also get free spending money. Stop denying reality.

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What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
Humanitarian associations do not create money out of thin air, they get money from government. The more illegal refugees, the more money they get.
legendary
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March 30, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
Seems like most of you have the same opinion... Good... So what your solution? Close European borders?

Make Muslims feel as unwelcome in the West as Non-Muslims are made to feel in Muslim countries.

If we want to go hard-core, we could make Muslims feel as unwelcome in the West as Jews are made to feel in Muslim countries.

Keep their numbers low and managable.

This can be done without relying on political leaders and without voting. Creative use of pork and cartoons can go a long way.
If you keep their number less, who will work instead of them? Europe is paradise of pensioners. Who will pay their salary?
Europe exploites their sources and also their manpower. How will you give up that?

First, it's not realistic to believe Muslims will continue to pay pensions to non-Muslims when they have the power to stop paying.
Not what he's talking about.
Currently, most "trash jobs" are done by refugees and immigrants. They're done by them not because they "steal" them but because good whites like you don't want to do it. In France for example there is about 1.5 millions jobs not finding anyone to fill them up simply because people refuse to do this kind of work. That's what he's talking about.
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Second, overall Muslims are the beneficiaries of state welfare at the moment, not contributors.
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Whaou. Such argument. Much logic. Beautiful figures.
And how can you say that Ô you the wise?
Finally, most European countries have made unrealistic promises to pensioners. The result is that pensioners are going to get fucked. Importing millions of Muslims won't change that. Before feeling bad for pensioners, consider that they've spent their lives voting for politicians who make unrealistic promises. Fuck them all.
Yeah cause it's like it's totally a choice. We actually sent people all over Middle East and Africa spreading the word it's an Eldorado here. We've got a full control on their desire to immigrate. Really easy to work on that aspect. And objectively Europe isn't so much better than Syria at the moment, that seems clear enough sure!
legendary
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March 30, 2016, 06:09:22 PM
Seems like most of you have the same opinion... Good... So what your solution? Close European borders?

It only takes one or two brain cells to figure out that yes you close the borders.  Animals know things like this.

Try to walk into a cave holding a wolf pack, or a bear.

Go ahead, try it.

Then come back and scoff at closing borders.

Good.
How do you do that?
Do you even have the slightest idea of the cost of closing European borders? What do you propose? To build a 14 000 km long wall with militaries everywhere?
legendary
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March 30, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
    Many Muslims take advantage of the West’s unique welfare state, while at the same time despising its ethics of radical equality.
Why does Western Europe allow this? Western Europe is better off without them. Why do politicians feel the need to destroy their own countries, instead of enjoying the very nice safe countries they once had?
Do not let people who hate you into your country! Stop giving them free money as an incentive to go to Europe.

Could you stop spreading huge insane bulshit please?

European countries aren't giving free money to refugees... That's just a retard statement made by someone who probably never went into Europe...
To get benefits from National Welfare you've got at least to be of the country nationality! The only things refugees are getting are resources given out by associations!!! What do you want? That European countries close Humanitarian associations for helping refugees?
hero member
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March 30, 2016, 05:52:46 PM
    Many Muslims take advantage of the West’s unique welfare state, while at the same time despising its ethics of radical equality.
Why does Western Europe allow this? Western Europe is better off without them. Why do politicians feel the need to destroy their own countries, instead of enjoying the very nice safe countries they once had?
Do not let people who hate you into your country! Stop giving them free money as an incentive to go to Europe.
legendary
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March 30, 2016, 05:42:55 PM



German mom has multicultural encounter with son's muslim 'friends'






full member
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March 30, 2016, 06:45:09 AM
Europe is under attack. Those bombings will rise in near future and will go on during 5 years. Why?
Because they want to destroy european governments and bring secular and more islamophobic governments. Therefore they will do it by hand of muslim terrorists. Actually that is a false flag operation. They will show it as if muslims do that attacks. Actually not.
legendary
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March 29, 2016, 11:16:13 AM






So, we blame ourselves in order to remain blameless. Safer to blame our own societies and socioeconomic conditions than to blame the religious and cultural concepts with which terrorists poison their own minds.

    There is poverty in Molenbeek, but that poverty is relative. There is no starvation, no homelessness, no lack of medical infrastructure, no lack of schools.

According to reports, the unemployment figure in Brussels’ infamous Molenbeek neighborhood — now referred to as the jihadi hothouse of Europe — is 30 percent. This is a relatively high figure in Western Europe, but not unusual in southern European countries or the Arab world. There is poverty in Molenbeek, but that poverty is relative. There is no starvation, no homelessness, no lack of medical infrastructure, no lack of schools.

Compared to average living standards in Morocco or Egypt, the average living standard in Molenbeek is comfortably middle-class. Like in any other Western European country, many Belgian institutions and organizations offer support when families need housing, food, education, and health care. Opportunities for success, and to study and become a respected member in society, are countless compared to those that exist in many immigrants’ countries of origin. Still, there is deep resentment among the younger generations of immigrant Moroccan families.

Immigration into the Netherlands from Morocco and Turkey is an expensive phenomenon for the taxpayer: In the modern welfare state immigrants are more dependent on the welfare state than the average citizen. Because of a lack of higher education and the lack of non-skilled jobs, immigrants absorb a higher part of unemployment and social security payments than the average citizen. As a group, they receive more money than they pay in taxes. They also show up much higher in crime statistics than their numbers would justify. There are many success stories, but there are also disappointing trends. Like radicalization. And the situation in Belgium is even worse.

There is no question that unemployment is much higher among Muslim immigrant communities than among the general public. There are two possible explanations.

The first goes something like this: The Belgian people are terribly xenophobic and anti-Moroccan, and deny their Moroccan neighbors opportunities to succeed in life. But if this were the case, the theory can be applied to every Western European country, as unemployment figures for Moroccan and other Muslim migrants across Europe are remarkably higher than average. This would indicate that European xenophobia has reached unbearable levels. Why would Muslims choose to stay in societies that showed such deep disrespect for their migrant population? Because they realize that an unemployed citizen in a European welfare state run by infidels has a better material life than an employed citizen in pious Morocco?

    Life in Belgium is exceptionally good and safe for migrants — if they are willing to integrate into their new cultural environment.

The notion that Moroccan-Belgians suffer from widespread exclusion, discrimination, and suppression is ridiculous — and yet completely acceptable among the politically-correct crowd. Life in Belgium is exceptionally good and safe for migrants — if they are willing to integrate into their new cultural environment, if they are willing to act as individuals, study with passion and openness, and accept the secular system of the West.

There is no difference at all in socioeconomic status between youngsters from a low-education, blue-collar Belgian background and youngsters from a Muslim migrant background. Both have to struggle, both have to overcome weak socioeconomic family situations. In Spain, youth unemployment has reached 50 percent and the welfare state is less developed than in Belgium, yet Spanish citizens aren’t blowing themselves up in metro stations.

The other explanation for the high unemployment figures among Muslims in Europe has nothing to do with exclusion and discrimination. A large segment of the migrant population is doing just fine, but a significant number — some say as many as 50 percent — have not rid themselves of the mental and cultural conditions that have kept their home country in its “developing country” status. The denial of equal rights to women, the lack of separation of state and church, bad education, excessive religiosity, patriarchal machismo — these are all on display in areas with a high percentage of migrants, including Molenbeek.

    Many Muslims take advantage of the West’s unique welfare state, while at the same time despising its ethics of radical equality.

In December 2013, Professor Ruud Koopmans of the Berlin Social Science Center published a study on “Fundamentalism and out-group hostility,” in which he compared hostility among Muslim immigrants with hostility among Christian natives in Western Europe. He writes: “Almost 60 percent agree that Muslims should return to the roots of Islam, 75 percent think there is only one interpretation of the Quran possible to which every Muslim should stick and 65 percent say that religious rules are more important to them than the laws of the country in which they live.” In regards to Christian citizens he concludes: “Less than 4 percent can be characterized as consistent fundamentalists.”

On hatred of Jews and homosexuals among Europe’s Muslim population, Koopmans finds: “Almost 60 percent reject homosexuals as friends and 45 percent think that Jews cannot be trusted. While about one in five natives can be considered as Islamophobic, the level of phobia against the West among Muslims — for which oddly enough there is no word; one might call it ‘Occidentophobia’ — is much higher still, with 54 percent believing that the West is out to destroy Islam.” Recorded rates of Christian hate toward Muslims hover around 10 percent.

    What did “we” do to “them”? We opened up our cities, our houses, our wallets.

“Occidentophobia” is an interesting term. It expresses a refusal to accept the essential concepts of life in the West. Young men like the perpetrators of the Brussels attacks have refused to embrace the social codes of Belgian life. They were raised on the idea that their religious ethics trump the ethics of the infidels (close to non-existent, in their eyes, in any case). Their second-rate socioeconomic status was therefore a humiliating affront, an indignity to be destroyed.

Muslim integration into Europe societies is successful when Muslims are willing to give up the mental confinement of their home countries — countries, let’s not forget, which they left in search of a better life. For as long as they refuse to adapt to a European state of mind, they will perpetuate resentment and a culture of violence.

What did “we” do to “them”? We opened up our cities, our houses, our wallets. And in our secular temples of progress — our metro stations and airports and theaters — their sons are killing themselves, and taking our sons and daughters with them. There is nothing for which we need to apologize. “Occidentophobia” originated in the Muslim community. We need to demand they abandon it.



http://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-attacks-terrorism-europe-muslims-brussels-attacks-airport-metro/



legendary
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March 27, 2016, 10:55:22 AM
it's a good news for women and children now they have own area in train and i think they will feel comfortable when to go use train.


Yes very good regressive news for women and children travelling away from their husbands and dads for hours and hours and hours. Thank you rapists. Thank you pedophiles.




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March 27, 2016, 07:36:19 AM
it's a good news for women and children now they have own area in train and i think they will feel comfortable when to go use train.
legendary
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March 26, 2016, 07:26:53 PM



German Railway Launches Gender Segregated Carriages In Wake Of Sex Attacks








A central German regional railway is launching a special women and children only area for their trains, a move which has triggered controversy.



The announcement from the central German Regiobahn line came earlier this week, with the network stating the new compartment on their Leipzig and Chemnitz would admit women and young children only.

To ensure maximum peace for those choosing to travel in that compartment not only would it be sandwiched between the service’s two quiet coaches, but it would also be next to the on-board office of the “customer service representative. Traditionally known as a train guard or ticket inspector, the company said “the local proximity to the customer service representative is chosen deliberately”.

Yet despite the recent mass sex-attacks in Germany, and the official advice to young women that the best thing to do is to keep groping migrant men “at arms length” to prevent rape, the railway denies the segregated trains has anything to do with sexual harassment.

This denial has caused lively debate and controversy on German social media, reports Süddeutsche Zeitung.

The launch of women’s only compartments puts Germany in a club of other nations who need to segregate the sexes on journeys including India, Mexico, Brazil, Egypt and Indonesia.

The suggestion of women’s only rail carriages was recently floated by British Labour Party leader and avid train enthusiast Jeremy Corbyn, who in contrast to Germany’s railway admitted it was to help combat harassment, as reported on by Breitbart London at the time.

Explaining the logic behind his idea, which was widely panned at the time, Mr. Corbyn said: “It is unacceptable that many women and girls adapt their daily lives in order to avoid being harassed on the street, public transport, and in other public places from the park to the supermarket.

“This could include taking longer routes to work, having self-imposed curfews or avoiding certain means of transport”.

Remarking he thought a solution to this could be women’s only carriages, Mr. Corbyn said: “piloting this at times and modes of transport where harassment is reported most frequently would be of interest”.



http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/26/german-railway-launches-gender-segregated-carriages-in-wake-of-sex-attacks/





legendary
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March 25, 2016, 04:40:20 PM
Seems like most of you have the same opinion... Good... So what your solution? Close European borders?

It only takes one or two brain cells to figure out that yes you close the borders.  Animals know things like this.

Try to walk into a cave holding a wolf pack, or a bear.

Go ahead, try it.

Then come back and scoff at closing borders.
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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
March 25, 2016, 04:29:00 PM
Seems like most of you have the same opinion... Good... So what your solution? Close European borders?

Make Muslims feel as unwelcome in the West as Non-Muslims are made to feel in Muslim countries.

If we want to go hard-core, we could make Muslims feel as unwelcome in the West as Jews are made to feel in Muslim countries.

Keep their numbers low and managable.

This can be done without relying on political leaders and without voting. Creative use of pork and cartoons can go a long way.
If you keep their number less, who will work instead of them? Europe is paradise of pensioners. Who will pay their salary?
Europe exploites their sources and also their manpower. How will you give up that?

First, it's not realistic to believe Muslims will continue to pay pensions to non-Muslims when they have the power to stop paying.

Second, overall Muslims are the beneficiaries of state welfare at the moment, not contributors.

Finally, most European countries have made unrealistic promises to pensioners. The result is that pensioners are going to get fucked. Importing millions of Muslims won't change that. Before feeling bad for pensioners, consider that they've spent their lives voting for politicians who make unrealistic promises. Fuck them all.
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March 25, 2016, 04:18:57 PM
Seems like most of you have the same opinion... Good... So what your solution? Close European borders?

Make Muslims feel as unwelcome in the West as Non-Muslims are made to feel in Muslim countries.

If we want to go hard-core, we could make Muslims feel as unwelcome in the West as Jews are made to feel in Muslim countries.

Keep their numbers low and managable.

This can be done without relying on political leaders and without voting. Creative use of pork and cartoons can go a long way.
If you keep their number less, who will work instead of them? Europe is paradise of pensioners. Who will pay their salary?
Europe exploites their sources and also their manpower. How will you give up that?
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