Topic: European Parliament election, 2014 (Read 3131 times)

UKIP are just a bunch of conservatives, who just happens to be Eurosceptic. They have destroyed all the nationalist parties in the UK, including the British National Party.

But on the plus side, they're not very good at holding on to their seats as a party.  Granted, this was for the local elections rather than the European one, but it's still indicative of their overall stupidity:

UKIP are a bunch of racists pretending not to be, its shocking and some of their ideologies are quite fascist, its quite unsettling to see them to have won in the UK...

Some people never stop complaining. 

French students in anti-National Front rallies

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27629603

I'd vote for the Pirate party if it didn't get involved with the Greens who in my perception are just environmentally friendly capitalists. Ended up voting for the Socialist Party (GUE-NGL). But I wouldn't say there's anything like a wasted vote, the system is rigged anyway. Much better to be an active citizen daily and exercise your political power along with your co-citizens than participate in this faded republic.

Rather than wasting your vote, you should have voiced your dissent by voting for any of the anti-establishment parties (far-right, far-left or even parties such as the Pirates).

As usual it was just a parade of scammers. I spoiled my vote!

“Saving” Ukraine? What a joke. The EU cannot even save itself.

I just read the Op-Edge on RT, which in part covers the EU election.
http://rt.com/op-edge/161664-elections-in-eu-ukraine/

Scroll down to "What a mess" section of the article.

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And I suppose the fact that by doing that, you get to move the goalposts every few years and redefine where the centre lies is just a fortunate coincidence?  No thanks.  If governance takes a sudden swing to the right, you can't just turn around and say "actually that's the new centre now" and anyone who's left of the old centre somehow just got more extremist even though their views haven't changed.  Nice try, though.



Their concerns are simply misplaced.  People buying into a farcical fear campaign because they're gullible and afraid doesn't make their views justified or in any way realistic.  If anyone voted UKIP because they genuinely believe people who have committed no other crime than being born within different arbitrarily drawn lines on the map will somehow destroy the country by coming here, then I'm sorry, but I think they've been manipulated.  Having less people coming from abroad won't miraculously fix any problems, so actually, no, UKIP don't have any "decent solutions".  Anyone who thinks it will change anything for the better is, quite frankly, broken in the head and in denial about the fact that their view boils down to the simple fact that they're scared of the boogeyman and the current boogeyman of choice is foreign people.  It's pathetic.

Isn't it ironic that the anti-eu party is running in an EU parliament election?
Reading through all the uk politicians have to say , looking at how "close" they are to Europe , I wonder , why are they still members of the EU.

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It's a common misperception to believe there's actually an inch of a difference between democrats and republicans in terms of actual policies that really matter. You could call them "republocrats" just as well.
In the background, they're basically a neocon one-party-system, owned and controlled by exactly the same forces.
All the differences are just propaganda or artificial pseudo-differences to create the illusion of differing principles, divide the people emotionally and infuriate them over meaningless issues.

The US policies combined make it easily one of the most ultra-right-wing extremists on the entire planet, in terms of resulting effects they are literally second to none in that respect.

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That is a common misconception.  If you look at actual policies the US is pretty far left in many ways.  I spent a few days studying this a year or two ago, and the US is to the right of about 3/4 of Western countries, and to the left of about 1/4 of them.


I am familiar with the website from which that chart comes, and I don't consider it credible.  How does it decide where to put the center?  It is arbitrary.

I use a non-arbitrary definition:  the status quo is center.  Anyone who wants modernize authority is a leftist, anyone who wants to diversify authority is a rightist.  Anyone who is more of a leftist than Marx is far left, anyone who is more of a rightist than Confucius (the man himself, not his disciples) is far right.

You are correct that Obama and Romney seem to fall pretty close to each other on a left-right spectrum, but the truth is that they are on the left.  This is because they both want to move the status quo to the left.  That is indisputable.  We know that Obama's policies are far left because of his actions on the lumpenprole (people that Marx did not care about).  Romney could have gone pretty far left when he was governor of Massachusetts, but he didn't.  So we can conclude that he (like most Mormons) is only a center leftist.



None of the top three parties addresses any of the concerns of the average person.  UKIP not only addresses them, but has decent solutions.  Also "move past by now"?  Do you see the demographic shifts that are happening around you?  How many children does the average Labour supporter have?  How many does the average UKIP have?  I'm guessing that the latter is at least twice the former.  In the US it will only be a couple of generations before we shed the progressives.  They'll be a few of inconsequential weirdos instead of the ruling class.

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