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What is your opinion about the European Union?

The EU was poorly thought out, Democracies and socialist can't work. other talk to much and gets very little done and Then there's socialism that works good until you run out of other peoples money to spend, This is the cat fight from hell.

So, do autocracies work fine? Though that was an irony too, but we can say that the experience of the 20th century clearly shows that they don't. Democracy may be an imperfective construct, but others are even worse and you won't find any perfective construct. So, I don't argue that the system is imperfect. But why we should ruin it instead of improving?

Democracy is a great thing - and the European Union is famous for ignoring it. They're trying to tell Britain to ignore the referendum, can you imagine? Luckily the governing party (the Conservatives) have said they accept the result and there won't be another referendum.

If you make some statements, it will be useful to verify them by some clear examples or facts. For instance, you saying that the EU is famous for ignoring democracy. But you didn't verified your statement, so it is unfounded. The same holds true for the next statement: the EU tries to tell Britain to ignore the referendum. Loud statement, but I'm not going to take that on trust. Are there statements of the EU officials that can confirm "ignoring the referendum" as a position of the EU? I don't know such.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on July 01, 2016, 02:55:11 AM

Quote from: zenitzz on June 30, 2016, 11:36:43 AM

Quote from: virtualx on June 30, 2016, 04:38:25 AM

What is your opinion about the European Union?

The EU was poorly thought out, Democracies and socialist can't work. other talk to much and gets very little done and Then there's socialism that works good until you run out of other peoples money to spend, This is the cat fight from hell.

So, do autocracies work fine? Though that was an irony too, but we can say that the experience of the 20th century clearly shows that they don't. Democracy may be an imperfective construct, but others are even worse and you won't find any perfective construct. So, I don't argue that the system is imperfect. But why we should ruin it instead of improving?

Democracy is a great thing - and the European Union is famous for ignoring it. They're trying to tell Britain to ignore the referendum, can you imagine? Luckily the governing party (the Conservatives) have said they accept the result and there won't be another referendum.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 30, 2016, 02:36:47 PM

It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Yes looks like the EU is no longer necessary If more countries leave, it'll amount to more good than harm for Europe.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on July 01, 2016, 03:54:45 AM

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 30, 2016, 02:36:47 PM

It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Unfounded. By which principles it's not a union? And why with Turkey it can't be European. Because of geography? I doubt, Cyprus is geographically in Asia. Because of non-European origin? I doubt again, Hungarians and Finns are too non-European by origin as well as European nations were once barbarous. Because of religion? Hardly believe. Firstly, Turkey is a secular country. Some can say it has a Muslim background. Yes, it has as well as some European regions: Spain, Balkans.

It hasn't been united since its inception.

Why call it European if you include non-european countries.

But we're talking about union and not one united state. Of course there wasn't any European Federation or something like that. But there is union of European states that expressed by common market, space, traditions etc.
My point was that many now European countries by origin are non-european. Even Europeans themselves were not Europeans in the sense of their old customs and so on. So I think, if country become European, by which I mean that it follows European principles and mentality, why it could not join the EU. The other thing is that Turkey yet has to rise above itself to join the EU. But, IMO, it can be real in future.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 30, 2016, 02:36:47 PM

It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Unfounded. By which principles it's not a union? And why with Turkey it can't be European. Because of geography? I doubt, Cyprus is geographically in Asia. Because of non-European origin? I doubt again, Hungarians and Finns are too non-European by origin as well as European nations were once barbarous. Because of religion? Hardly believe. Firstly, Turkey is a secular country. Some can say it has a Muslim background. Yes, it has as well as some European regions: Spain, Balkans.

It hasn't been united since its inception.

Why call it European if you include non-european countries.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on June 30, 2016, 06:50:48 PM

hey, i type what they tell me to type during business hours. outside of that i'm gonna think for myself. and they pay me in dollars too. go figure.

I thought that a joke thread was in another place.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 30, 2016, 02:36:47 PM

It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Unfounded. By which principles it's not a union? And why with Turkey it can't be European. Because of geography? I doubt, Cyprus is geographically in Asia. Because of non-European origin? I doubt again, Hungarians and Finns are too non-European by origin as well as European nations were once barbarous. Because of religion? Hardly believe. Firstly, Turkey is a secular country. Some can say it has a Muslim background. Yes, it has as well as some European regions: Spain, Balkans.

Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on June 30, 2016, 02:40:27 PM

Very few people know that European Union was established by big bankers and its policies are controlled by Zionist Jews

http://dvcronin.blogspot.ca/2010/11/how-israel-lobby-dictates-eu-policy.html
http://englishnews.org/news-central/resources/resource-a-conclusive-report-on-the-undeniable-self-evident-jewish-eu.html
https://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/index_eu.htm

Lol.

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Quote from: catch.me.if.you.can on June 30, 2016, 11:37:27 AM

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monopoly game of imperialism

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EU Dominated by Communists - UKIP Nigel Farage -October 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SHAhP_Hy18

Very funny, but it can not even be considered as a constructive post. Unfounded, illogical and too short to argue. Though the last one is typical. Some video of far right populist freak, who famous for scandalous speeches in the European Parliament, on channel "88kmitchell" (name hints at far right wing) with anti-Semitic comments. So, very suspicious and marginal video.

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Quote from: zenitzz on June 30, 2016, 11:36:43 AM

Quote from: virtualx on June 30, 2016, 04:38:25 AM

What is your opinion about the European Union?

The EU was poorly thought out, Democracies and socialist can't work. other talk to much and gets very little done and Then there's socialism that works good until you run out of other peoples money to spend, This is the cat fight from hell.

So, do autocracies work fine? Though that was an irony too, but we can say that the experience of the 20th century clearly shows that they don't. Democracy may be an imperfective construct, but others are even worse and you won't find any perfective construct. So, I don't argue that the system is imperfect. But why we should ruin it instead of improving?

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Should it be replaced by masculinised heterosexualised traditionalist organization of pro christian crusaders?

something along those lines yes

That was actually an irony. Anyway, I don't think that a return to the past is a good choice. You say that against marxism we must have traditionalism. So you suggest we should return to a divided Europe of suspicion, some 20-30 years of the 20th century. We can return and repeat right totalitarianism as well as left, but why do we rush from side to side? I don't think there is a need for radical extremes. IMO, it's better to keep equality between right and left wing than become right or left. And why you attribute to your views global importance as if it has to be an universal necessity? Some people can like your ideas, but others have different views. There isn't view that could be an objective law.

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Quote from: European Central Bank on June 30, 2016, 06:04:04 PM

i believe smoothing trade and borders is a good thing. i don't believe attempting to shoehorn crazily disparate cultures and economies into one box can ever work and that's ably demonstrated by the last few years.

there's enough discontent in the us at federalization and they all share a language and culture and it's been in place for over a century.

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i believe smoothing trade and borders is a good thing. i don't believe attempting to shoehorn crazily disparate cultures and economies into one box can ever work and that's ably demonstrated by the last few years.

there's enough discontent in the us at federalization and they all share a language and culture and it's been in place for over a century.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 30, 2016, 02:36:47 PM

It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Seems like that promise will never be kept. Turkey wont be able to join ever.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 30, 2016, 02:36:47 PM

It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

Why do you think turkey is joining the eu? There are talks going on. But lots of problems to solve first before they can join. And no one wants to ignore those to let them join sooner. The european commission said recently no one would join the eu in the next five years. Probably it will be much longer for turkey.

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Many Norwegians are fighting to get out of the economic union that we are in against our will.
Sadly it doesn't seem that we get a vote since both out big party's are pro EU even if just, if I remember right, 19% of the people is pro EU. UK, don't go for the Norwegian model. Get something better

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Very few people know that European Union was established by big bankers and its policies are controlled by Zionist Jews

http://dvcronin.blogspot.ca/2010/11/how-israel-lobby-dictates-eu-policy.html
http://englishnews.org/news-central/resources/resource-a-conclusive-report-on-the-undeniable-self-evident-jewish-eu.html
https://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/index_eu.htm

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It's never been a union, and with Turkey going in, it's no longer European.

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Quote from: virtualx on June 30, 2016, 04:38:25 AM

What is your opinion about the European Union?

Useful. But not irreplaceable. The common market, freedom of movement, some common rules and interests, etc help it be more competitive against other countries. And have more weight in the world. Better than individual countries fighting for themselves and their interests. But I don't agree with the neoliberal policies implemented. With the devastation caused in countries like greece for example.

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EU Dominated by Communists - UKIP Nigel Farage -October 2012
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