Europe's new plan: to give more free money to banks - page 2.

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Quote from: countryfree on March 07, 2019, 12:41:53 PM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-policy/ecb-pushes-out-rate-hike-offers-cheap-cash-to-banks-idUSKCN1QO0MH

The European Union is sinking, with the UK's leaving this month, but its central bank has a new plan to save it: print more money, and give it away to all its failing banks. I think that if the ECB was a doctor, it would get the most dangerous virus there is, and spread it to the entire population.

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I think the EU started to implement the strategy that the US has been implementing for years nowadays. First of all, increase the money supply and increase the export of money after reducing the supply of crisis economy. USD has lost value before years, then it gains value. In this way, sales of products originating from the USA 's increases.

I think the only way to end these crises is decentralization. So with decentralized economy, no one can control money supply. People controls their money own.

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why not build work facilities with free money and why should give them to a failing banks, is the new ECB planning because underlying inflation did not meet the previous month's target? free money for banks does't seem to help for a better future as unemployment in the euro zone is still among 7% that much. I wish that the Eurozone economy is still in the stage of improvement, I'm waiting for its development what will happen before 2020

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Quote from: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-policy/ecb-pushes-out-rate-hike-offers-cheap-cash-to-banks-idUSKCN1QO0MH

The European Central Bank changed tack on its tightening plan on Thursday, pushing out the timing of its first post-crisis rate hike until 2020 at the earliest and offering banks a new round of cheap loans to help revive the euro zone economy.

If this is what you mean by "print more money" then I don't think its as bad as we think it is. They are offering loans from the money they already have there is nowhere in the article mentioning about the ECB printing more Euros for it to solve the problem, which we all know won't really solve anything as it will further devalue their own currency. Offering up what they already have might be a band aid solution but I don't think they really have much choice for their current solution aside from what they already planned.

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This is crazy. Maybe we all citizens in Europe will experience economic difficulties and maybe even they will lose their homes by giving free money to banks in Europe. their freedom will all be seized by the government, especially their economy.

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There is a big reason behind why the UK is leaving the European Union. For me, the reason why the European Bank will print money is that the third world war three is coming. Sooner and later, currencies will go down and the European bank is trying to save some profit because they needed to wage something.

The UK is leaving the union because of one of the biggest things to happen globally and we need to wait for it soon.

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Quote from: BitcoinFani on March 08, 2019, 05:26:15 PM

It was already clear that the European Union would sink.. Britain was wise to leave the European Union.. Germany is close to the separation of countries such as Netherlands and Sweden.. why a country with a good economy should try to feed others. illogical..

Can you be more precise please. Which country have good economy and which country need food?

For me personally if my neighbor or any one need food I would give to him. You would not? You want to have your kids live in a country with starving people walking around?

Let me tell you the news. EU will never go away. EU will stay 3rd economic powerhouse behind India and China until the end of this century and further. No matter how much hate there will be form people like you.

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Quote from: fauzan Ichsan on March 09, 2019, 12:44:09 AM

but to turn the wheels of the economy, it must be from below, by giving low interest rates to small businesses

Your statement is true if cheap money is used by businesses for productive activities. However, in reality, people use that money to inflate the stock price, properties, basically for speculative activities. This is why we see the boom and bust cycle because people are greedy and want the easy way to earn money.

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Like that worked out so well before. I do not understand why banks needs to be the governments money access system.
I get the whole idea that banks give out loans and buy shares and sell share basically keeping the economy alive a bit and governments give money to banks so banks can keep doing it forever and economy can stay alive.

Moreover, banks do not do this for free, they are raking up billions of dollars in profit and what they can't afford should be only helped via government not via banks so when someone takes out a loan to build a bridge for example and fail to pay the loan to bank than government should not pay it to the bank, the bridge should be loaned from the government anyway.

It is a weird thing that banks are the door to economy in every nation, they should not have this much power and monopoly over a countries finances.

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Quote from: countryfree on March 07, 2019, 12:41:53 PM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-policy/ecb-pushes-out-rate-hike-offers-cheap-cash-to-banks-idUSKCN1QO0MH

The European Union is sinking, with the UK's leaving this month, but its central bank has a new plan to save it: print more money, and give it away to all its failing banks. I think that if the ECB was a doctor, it would get the most dangerous virus there is, and spread it to the entire population.

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This "new" plan isn't new. Grin

The European central banks has been going this for years,and they won't stop the priniting machine,because the bank system will collapse.
I don't think that the EU is sinking due to Brexit or due to any other factor.The European Union still has some strong foundations,like the open market.

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This is the practice almost everywhere in the world, by giving the public treasuries to failing private institutions in the name of bail out, especially the banks. The implication of this is that: these same economic gangsters will in turn steal the bail out fund and come asking for more, leading to more inflation. Bank was conceived in Inequity and born in Sin, according to a former banker. Sadly, this will continue because these cabals control the government and not some politicians, if you don't play along, your government get grounded and you are frustrated out of the office. Check out this book Conspiracy Of The Rich by Robert T. Kiyosaki.

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Quote from: magneto on March 08, 2019, 07:03:29 PM

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The European Union is sinking, with the UK's leaving this month, but its central bank has a new plan to save it: print more money, and give it away to all its failing banks. I think that if the ECB was a doctor, it would get the most dangerous virus there is, and spread it to the entire population.

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Sounds familiar to how banks are bailed out when there are any type of financial crisis that seems imminent?

This seems to be exactly the same thing that's happening here.

Certain banks become too big to fail, and governments essentially simply inject money to keep them running. That in itself imo makes banks more comfortable making higher risk moves, and artificially stimulates the economy at the cost of individuals. This isn't just something that happens in the EU.

After all, printing more money isn't something that comes free. The invisible tax of inflation will ultimately be passed onto households, and not to mention taxes.

The irony is that once a bank becomes too big to fail it's already too late, as it becomes a burden for the underlying system's currency in the form of perpetual QE, so as more and more banks reach "too big to fail status" the QE rounds start stacking in order to save them. It becomes a futile action of kicking can down the road brewing massive backlashes, crashes, and worst case scenario systemic risk.

If the system was fair banks would simply fail and go out of business. The pain would suck but it would be temporary, systemic risk wouldn't be an issue. But once again politicians only think for whatever next 4 years they plan to be on office, when economics need longer timeframes, but they think in form of potential voters which goes against very long term policies.

Thanks to satoshi we have now Bitcoin after 2008 to protect from this problem, just hold some bitcoin at all times in order to hedge against that.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on March 08, 2019, 10:01:08 PM

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The European Central Bank changed tack on its tightening plan on Thursday, pushing out the timing of its first post-crisis rate hike until 2020 at the earliest and offering banks a new round of cheap loans to help revive the euro zone economy.

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I cannot believe this madness since it is clear that the market needs to reset. I'm afraid that the longer the waiting time for the interest rate rise, the economic turmoil would be more severe.

but to turn the wheels of the economy, it must be from below, by giving low interest rates to small businesses, of course they will help them to develop their businesses, just as they do in my country

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The European Central Bank changed tack on its tightening plan on Thursday, pushing out the timing of its first post-crisis rate hike until 2020 at the earliest and offering banks a new round of cheap loans to help revive the euro zone economy.

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I cannot believe this madness since it is clear that the market needs to reset. I'm afraid that the longer the waiting time for the interest rate rise, the economic turmoil would be more severe.

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The European Union is sinking, with the UK's leaving this month, but its central bank has a new plan to save it: print more money, and give it away to all its failing banks. I think that if the ECB was a doctor, it would get the most dangerous virus there is, and spread it to the entire population.

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Sounds familiar to how banks are bailed out when there are any type of financial crisis that seems imminent?

This seems to be exactly the same thing that's happening here.

Certain banks become too big to fail, and governments essentially simply inject money to keep them running. That in itself imo makes banks more comfortable making higher risk moves, and artificially stimulates the economy at the cost of individuals. This isn't just something that happens in the EU.

After all, printing more money isn't something that comes free. The invisible tax of inflation will ultimately be passed onto households, and not to mention taxes.

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It was already clear that the European Union would sink.. Britain was wise to leave the European Union.. Germany is close to the separation of countries such as Netherlands and Sweden.. why a country with a good economy should try to feed others. illogical..

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on March 08, 2019, 08:56:44 AM

A new crisis is approaching and it could be bad because of the poor "fix" and also the complicated/bad relations (US-China, problems inside EU, name it).

I do think that globally the books have been messed up a lot. I do quite agree with you that another global financial meltdown is brewing already with all the tug-of-wars, Brexit no deal, N.Korea-US and China imbroglio. It's going to be a tough ride soon.

March will match all these.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on March 08, 2019, 04:08:29 PM

Quote from: LeGaulois on March 08, 2019, 08:41:16 AM

The TLTROs were supposed to expire soon, it would have been a shock to the banks if ECB didn't postpone.

Since several years now their profitability continued to decline. EU is already on its "last reserve" and the last hope is to print more money for more debt, and twist the policy from time to time but again, this only postpones the problem.

People think the EU economy is doing fine, but under the rocks it's ugly.

But printing more money is too risky, isn't it? The EU is putting a lot of effort in making sure they control the price of euro and the rate of inflation. They evaluate how much basic products cost and adjust the amount of money so that there is very stable inflation rate. Printing more money than planned can easily lead to euro's rapid devalvation and that, in turn, to international economic crisis in Europe. I guess it's time to start saying goodbye to controlled fiat and embracing the money that is limited in supply 'from the inside' with all of its ups and downs.

As mentioned printing more money will surely lead to inflation of the currency. At present EUROPEAN UNION is very strong in its economy, but we're not going to rally strong in the market anymore. Free money to banks weren't the right solution to keep the economy under control.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on March 08, 2019, 08:41:16 AM

The TLTROs were supposed to expire soon, it would have been a shock to the banks if ECB didn't postpone.

Since several years now their profitability continued to decline. EU is already on its "last reserve" and the last hope is to print more money for more debt, and twist the policy from time to time but again, this only postpones the problem.

People think the EU economy is doing fine, but under the rocks it's ugly.

But printing more money is too risky, isn't it? The EU is putting a lot of effort in making sure they control the price of euro and the rate of inflation. They evaluate how much basic products cost and adjust the amount of money so that there is very stable inflation rate. Printing more money than planned can easily lead to euro's rapid devalvation and that, in turn, to international economic crisis in Europe. I guess it's time to start saying goodbye to controlled fiat and embracing the money that is limited in supply 'from the inside' with all of its ups and downs.

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I don't actually believe that the UK will leave the EU as the deal has not formally been approved by it's own government and the modified version hasn't been approved by the EU. Hard to believe until it actually happens

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The euro crashed yesterday because of the fear of debt across the EU banks and caused some traders big lose. However, I think the euro is beginning to recover fast because of the ECB decision to print more money to service bank debts. I think that is a right step from draghi led ecb. I do believe that it will further boost the strength of the euro from next week to bull.

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