Topic: Every thing are Controlled by Time, Even the Bitcoin Price . (Read 213 times)

  That was just cold but on point.

I believe that some people should understand that things will not work the way they want and OP should have known this too. Nothing is NEWS in what Op is saying, you chose to trade where you want, but whether the whales can totally manipulate the market I don't think is absolute and for price control, I doubt, except the theory of market demand and supply no longer applies.

Right the exact prices are derived from the demand and supply at the current time of market which is simply economic concept.The manipulation part is the other factor but it's not easy to do such things in bitcoin when the market cap is too high.If there is demand for coin and supply is less then they will boost the price simply and vice versa.You will get return in the future with holding btc which is sure as it's great investment if you understand it.

I don't know what exactly are you trying to say here, OP.
Your thoughts and theories are all over the place. Bitcoin Time Machine? Bitcoin whales manipulating the price? Centralized exchanges are bad?
Pick one topic and discuss it. Don't just throw random sentences here and there.
Right now every individual is able to buy and sell BTC without centralized exchanges. Just look at the decentralized exchanges like bisq and hodlhodl. Nobody is obligated by the law to use centralized crypto exchanges.
If you really have some evidence that BTC whales are manipulating the price would you mind posting it here?
Bitcoin Time Machine? What the hell is that? Can you elaborate more on this time machine thing?

Yes, "time" are very important.... in Bitcoin....

Example - "10 minute block time" - every 10 minutes a new block of transactions is added to the blockchain and transactions within the block are considered to be 'processed'.

Also take the Bitcoin "Halving" that takes place every 4 years. The Bitcoin halving is when the reward for Bitcoin mining is cut in half.

These are some of the most important things where time has an influence on the Bitcoin price.... not the time that you have to wait for the price to recover for you to make a profit.   

There is a huge difference between manipulating the market and having control over the price.
Nobody can control the price, that requires centralization and a limitless amount of money to control bitcoin price. You may be confusing bitcoin with a shitcoin here.
Manipulation on the other hand is possible, as it is possible in any other market in the world. It is a little easier in bitcoin market because it is a smaller market than most established century old markets!

Individuals shouldn't have to buy or sell bitcoin, instead they should be able to earn bitcoin and spend it like they do any other fiat currency. After all they don't "buy fiat"...

Yea, advocate for Bitcoin which somewhat promotes financial freedom, and then advocate for regulations? Lmao. And don't get me started again with the "wHaLeS mAniPuLaTiNg" thing.

Firstly, the way you talk about the influence of time over the price of Bitcoin is made rather in a philosophical way, because it is obvious that Time is a magnitude which has influence over all things within the known universe.

Also, if you have been a member of this community enough time, you should have realized that the push of governments and big corporations is actually to tackle the decentralized P2P, in order to enhance the information gathering and the identification of those who use Bitcoin and why.

Regulators won't push actual P2P, because it goes against their plans, OP.

btc is controlled by the amount of people who are interested and how many coins are in circulation. It has nothing to do with time. The halvings are created to create deflation over time and not all at once to stop btc falling flat and people losing interest. Btc is the only deflationary asset you can invest in today. Properties are probably the next thing that stop you from losing to much money because they increase in price with inflation.

The whales still manipulated to their liking, but it wouldn't exactly go according to their plan. There will be some mistakes they might make. The control of bitcoin prices is not completely manipulated by whales. We'll see. When bitcoin volatility rises, nothing can stop bitcoin from experiencing bullishness and reaching ATH. The volatility of the bitcoin price is so difficult to control that even Whales would not be able to fully manipulate it. They only apply pressure at the beginning.

What I think is that whales are not controlling Bitcoin, they can't change the nature of the project and it will remain decentralized no matter what. Whales are here to enjoy the market, that is true but being the owner of the entire crypto market. I admit that manipulations occur in the market but if we talk about the control of Bitcoin price, I certainly doubted it.

We have to be aware of the market volatility and the price of Bitcoin will pump or dump normally, not because it was being planned to what will happen next otherwise, Mr. Satoshi had failed.

Satoshi Nakamoto set up excellent parameters for Bitcoin from total supply to block reward halvings but it is not enough if there are no other things happened after that from community globally.

The community is most important part of Bitcoin success by increasing its adoption with time.

Satoshi Nakamoto predicted it well with two possibilities for success and failure.

Regarding to Bitcoin controlled supply and time, you can read two following sources

• Controlled supply
• Equivalent Network Time

Actually this is the post... and it is a particular appreciation, where fortunately some people love to make philosophical "tangles," then, they forget the basic and simple coherence that is to known Bitcoin.

Its title is redundant, you say; "Everything is controlled by time", that phrase refers to the existential set of the system of which you are a part, it is redundant to say, even bitcoin.

Then in an extended version of a repetitive context, the "whales" control, manipulate or add the institutional ones, etc. to reach the bipolar "yes and no", which is generated in the discussion, always.

Then you add that P2P is the best way to buy and sell, oh, yes! you discovered warm water.(sarcasm)

OP, the "possibility" that bitcoin may have purchase options is governed mainly by the same community, centralized exchanges are successful because they fill up with users, so the question is, what can be done to try to teach one of the main premises of bitcoin, nothing, the answer is there in the very idea genesis of bitcoin, decentralization.

So, I don't know what the hell you're trying to say with time and bitcoin, it's the way of thinking of users that although they read and understand what is decentralization means, they ignore it, others of course have no wtf idea what decentralization means, there is people who shout, if bitcoin is the change for traditional banking but they are not able to "move" in the basic premises of bitcoin, the most neglected is decentralization.

Bitcoin is not some random shitcoin that a few whales can manipulate and determine the price.
It's distribution is not as unequal to allow a few individuals to control the price.

Why not start by using the exchanges that allow direct P2P transactions? There are a couple of such decentralized exchanges like bisq and Hodlhodl.
Centralized exchanges would not change their privacy policy.

If you become rich tomorrow and have enough money to accumulate bitcoin with you, invest and hodl them, will you accept seing other people who can't afford to buy upto you calling you a manipulating bitcoin whale? let's begin to reason as if we were in the same shoe, what will be out action and people's response, well should incase you don't know, now hear this, bitcoin isn't manipulated period.


You can't stop exchanges from existing, all you need to do is to avoid them, go totally decentralized to acquire your bitcoin without using the centralized exchanges, moreover they never forced any in the first place in using them, you chose to.


I think and believed, you're not Satoshi.

Every thing are Controlled by Time, Even the Bitcoin Price .


The Bitcoin Time Machine will determine the price of Bitcoin in the future.  Currently few Bitcoin whales are controlling and manipulating Bitcoin price.  I think, all the Bitcoin exchange should be regulated to only make the sale for other Bitcoin owner without them to transfer Bitcoin in the exchange.  P2P transaction is the best way to buy or sale Bitcoin without going through a third party like those Bitcoin exchange.  Every individual must be able to buy and sale bitcoin from the person and to the person.

What do you think ?