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Topic: Every US taxpayer is now $1 million in debt - page 2. (Read 921 times)

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February 02, 2016, 12:57:26 PM
#7
Poor Science... only 0.7% of the budget Sad
Education, 2.6%...

Military budget is still more than the rest of the world spends on military combined



I don't like how they lump Social Security in with Unemployment & Labor... Social Security is a separate tax, with a separate budget (before congress stole the funds in the bank account anyway)
legendary
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February 02, 2016, 11:47:18 AM
#6
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.

I agree with you on this problem, but looking at future liabilities and backing them to the present is kind of like looking at the sum total in the present of all my school, house and car loans in the future.  It is future liabilities without offsetting future income streams.  In some cases, this skews the calculation.  For example, the rather disgusting practice of funding retirees' social security by current income would imply that it is an "expense," instead of future liability.  We don't like it, but that would be standard accounting practice.

Somewhat related - expect the US government to take over large segments of various consumer loan industries, bit by bit, just as they have the mortgage and college loan industries.  These are lucrative industries if you can print money...

Well, that future income stream is your future tax money.

Yeah in a sense...
But, normally, tax money is here for a reason and participate to the fonctionnement of your country, so it's here to pay the roads, the schools, the institutions, the army...

Roads, schools, institutions...yes those are in addition to the $1 million each person is in debt to the government.

Those are not even close to our top spending items in the US.

Here are the top yearly 6 spending items in the US:
legendary
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February 02, 2016, 11:29:39 AM
#5
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.

I agree with you on this problem, but looking at future liabilities and backing them to the present is kind of like looking at the sum total in the present of all my school, house and car loans in the future.  It is future liabilities without offsetting future income streams.  In some cases, this skews the calculation.  For example, the rather disgusting practice of funding retirees' social security by current income would imply that it is an "expense," instead of future liability.  We don't like it, but that would be standard accounting practice.

Somewhat related - expect the US government to take over large segments of various consumer loan industries, bit by bit, just as they have the mortgage and college loan industries.  These are lucrative industries if you can print money...

Well, that future income stream is your future tax money.

Yeah in a sense...
But, normally, tax money is here for a reason and participate to the fonctionnement of your country, so it's here to pay the roads, the schools, the institutions, the army...
legendary
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February 02, 2016, 10:25:59 AM
#4
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.

I agree with you on this problem, but looking at future liabilities and backing them to the present is kind of like looking at the sum total in the present of all my school, house and car loans in the future.  It is future liabilities without offsetting future income streams.  In some cases, this skews the calculation.  For example, the rather disgusting practice of funding retirees' social security by current income would imply that it is an "expense," instead of future liability.  We don't like it, but that would be standard accounting practice.

Somewhat related - expect the US government to take over large segments of various consumer loan industries, bit by bit, just as they have the mortgage and college loan industries.  These are lucrative industries if you can print money...

Well, that future income stream is your future tax money.
legendary
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February 02, 2016, 09:15:23 AM
#3
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.

I agree with you on this problem, but looking at future liabilities and backing them to the present is kind of like looking at the sum total in the present of all my school, house and car loans in the future.  It is future liabilities without offsetting future income streams.  In some cases, this skews the calculation.  For example, the rather disgusting practice of funding retirees' social security by current income would imply that it is an "expense," instead of future liability.  We don't like it, but that would be standard accounting practice.

Somewhat related - expect the US government to take over large segments of various consumer loan industries, bit by bit, just as they have the mortgage and college loan industries.  These are lucrative industries if you can print money...

You think they will do?
Might be wrong but for me expect the US government to not do that. Afterall, politicians don't care for national debt but for personnal profits. I think anything lucrative enough will be sold to private companies. Sadly enough it's what's happening in EU currently... And yet the people wonder "why we have so much debt".
Dude, it's because your ugly corrupted government sold every bit of lucrative income they had to their friends and families...
legendary
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February 02, 2016, 08:48:26 AM
#2
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.

I agree with you on this problem, but looking at future liabilities and backing them to the present is kind of like looking at the sum total in the present of all my school, house and car loans in the future.  It is future liabilities without offsetting future income streams.  In some cases, this skews the calculation.  For example, the rather disgusting practice of funding retirees' social security by current income would imply that it is an "expense," instead of future liability.  We don't like it, but that would be standard accounting practice.

Somewhat related - expect the US government to take over large segments of various consumer loan industries, bit by bit, just as they have the mortgage and college loan industries.  These are lucrative industries if you can print money...
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
February 02, 2016, 07:57:00 AM
#1
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.
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