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Topic: Everyone looses in the long run - page 127. (Read 96765 times)

legendary
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October 24, 2015, 08:15:08 AM
For me it depends on your luck. If you lose in long run it will never change it because it depends in your luck.
legendary
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October 24, 2015, 12:43:31 AM
Some professional players do not need to take a lot % from their bankroll to earn big money.

You need to see how professional truly play. I recommend you to take a look at the pro WSOP player. They are playing huge and only play at GTD or tournament and rarely ring games. The buy in for GTD is usually 4 digits in USD and that is a lot for average person , the game end after hours and most are really great and sometimes the unexpected happens like when someone think that he wins with full house but suddenly beaten by four of a kind
full member
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October 24, 2015, 12:28:59 AM
It really depends on the type of poker game you are playing, who you are playing against and your skill level. I have heard even professional poker players like Chris Money Maker typically have anything or nothing, and always run the opportunity of going bankrupt.

Thanks for your reminder,
i forgot to speak about bankruptcy on many poker players.

When you want to play in poker game. Considering these things first:
1. Do you on "free-time" or you have another things to do?
If you really on your "free-time", then it's the best time to have fun. Smiley

2. Do you play with small money from bankroll or big money from bankroll?
If you on tilt, and want to get a lot profit in high stakes table from almost 30% of your bankroll, then forget it, because you're not in your best at that time. Take a break, leave table and do the other things. You can always come back everytime.

3. (i learnt this thing from my poker buddy too, senior)
Play not for money, but to see how good you are at the table. Challenges yourself on different situation/people. Play smart with your money, do not play with big money, it will change your game a lot. Coz you will "doubtful" when it goes to all-in.
full member
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October 24, 2015, 12:18:01 AM
Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting.

There are no professional sports betting player because it is about luck. You can analyze the game and predict who will win or how many goals will be score but it is more about luck. Meanwhile there are alot professional poker player because they know how to play the game and luck is just small thing for them

I agree with that.
Poker is not gambling if you know how to play. (and manage your bankroll)
Poker not like gambling because they not use all their money in 1 game.

For me, i usually use 3-5% of my bankroll in poker. If i lose, i can easily cover my loss in the next game.

Poker is made for professional players, you can make a lot of money if you have the talent.

Yeah, but bankroll management is crucial aspect when play on poker.
Some professional players do not need to take a lot % from their bankroll to earn big money.
And they always challenge themselves on that way.

Buy-in with $3 and stand up until they have $25 +
And so on.
sr. member
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October 23, 2015, 11:50:53 PM
It really depends on the type of poker game you are playing, who you are playing against and your skill level. I have heard even professional poker players like Chris Money Maker typically have anything or nothing, and always run the opportunity of going bankrupt.
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 10:11:57 PM
This is true everyone looses in the long run whether it is online casino or physical one a little player always finishes at zero and casino owners are who win always.

No it isn't true.  It is highly unlikely that people profit from gambling in the long run.  But it isn't everyone, or always lose.

That is like saying, well you have a 1 in trillion chance at winning the lottery, no one ever wins it.  When in fact someone wins nearly every day.

Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting. They don't always lose. While they might lose sometimes, they win more than they have lost, so they are still in profit. If the game has a house edge, than you will always lose in the long term, but it's possible to win games that have skill involved.

I dont think poker players will always have profit because poker is need a lot of fund to play, you can't either play with low fund to get more and it takes time to play poker so it is wasting time. And houseedge game you will lose in a long run if you continue it and never stop. Try to stop and you will see the difference
member
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October 23, 2015, 06:52:40 PM
That's what gambling is all about, THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS. Gambling can be fun, but you gotta be aware that you can lose it all.
hero member
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October 23, 2015, 09:03:22 AM
Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting.

There are no professional sports betting player because it is about luck. You can analyze the game and predict who will win or how many goals will be score but it is more about luck. Meanwhile there are alot professional poker player because they know how to play the game and luck is just small thing for them

I agree with that.
Poker is not gambling if you know how to play. (and manage your bankroll)
Poker not like gambling because they not use all their money in 1 game.

For me, i usually use 3-5% of my bankroll in poker. If i lose, i can easily cover my loss in the next game.

Poker is made for professional players, you can make a lot of money if you have the talent.


True Poker is made for professionals, but you can always get good at Poker and learn the skill you need in order to win.  Most people need hours and hours of trying to read people and see what their cards are
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 08:58:49 AM
Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting.

There are no professional sports betting player because it is about luck. You can analyze the game and predict who will win or how many goals will be score but it is more about luck. Meanwhile there are alot professional poker player because they know how to play the game and luck is just small thing for them

I agree with that.
Poker is not gambling if you know how to play. (and manage your bankroll)
Poker not like gambling because they not use all their money in 1 game.

For me, i usually use 3-5% of my bankroll in poker. If i lose, i can easily cover my loss in the next game.

Poker is made for professional players, you can make a lot of money if you have the talent.
sr. member
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October 23, 2015, 02:32:16 AM
Poker not like gambling because they not use all their money in 1 game.

For me, i usually use 3-5% of my bankroll in poker. If i lose, i can easily cover my loss in the next game.

OK , i use 3-5 % of my bankroll in dice in one session and if i lose i can easily cover my loss in the next session ,so i dont use all my money in one game and hence DICE is not gambling in your opinion.?
full member
Activity: 168
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October 23, 2015, 02:16:35 AM
Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting.

There are no professional sports betting player because it is about luck. You can analyze the game and predict who will win or how many goals will be score but it is more about luck. Meanwhile there are alot professional poker player because they know how to play the game and luck is just small thing for them

I agree with that.
Poker is not gambling if you know how to play. (and manage your bankroll)
Poker not like gambling because they not use all their money in 1 game.

For me, i usually use 3-5% of my bankroll in poker. If i lose, i can easily cover my loss in the next game.
member
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October 23, 2015, 12:46:43 AM
For people to truly understand this loss in the long run thing, one must experienced it to fully know the output of doing gambling for a long run.
legendary
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October 22, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting.

There are no professional sports betting player because it is about luck. You can analyze the game and predict who will win or how many goals will be score but it is more about luck. Meanwhile there are alot professional poker player because they know how to play the game and luck is just small thing for them
legendary
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October 22, 2015, 11:09:05 PM
This is true everyone looses in the long run whether it is online casino or physical one a little player always finishes at zero and casino owners are who win always.

No it isn't true.  It is highly unlikely that people profit from gambling in the long run.  But it isn't everyone, or always lose.

That is like saying, well you have a 1 in trillion chance at winning the lottery, no one ever wins it.  When in fact someone wins nearly every day.

Also, professional people who play poker or sports betting. They don't always lose. While they might lose sometimes, they win more than they have lost, so they are still in profit. If the game has a house edge, than you will always lose in the long term, but it's possible to win games that have skill involved.
hero member
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October 22, 2015, 03:46:57 PM
This is true everyone looses in the long run whether it is online casino or physical one a little player always finishes at zero and casino owners are who win always.

No it isn't true.  It is highly unlikely that people profit from gambling in the long run.  But it isn't everyone, or always lose.

That is like saying, well you have a 1 in trillion chance at winning the lottery, no one ever wins it.  When in fact someone wins nearly every day.
hero member
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October 22, 2015, 03:04:13 PM
This is true everyone looses in the long run whether it is online casino or physical one a little player always finishes at zero and casino owners are who win always.
legendary
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October 22, 2015, 03:01:46 PM
I read some people were saying professional gamblers never loose as they are sponsored by others.If we put very small percentage of professional gamblers away and talk about usual and normal gamblers then my answer is clear that everyone looses in the long run .
sr. member
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October 22, 2015, 02:41:22 PM
exactly everyone looses in the long run......if you really want to be a pro-bamble first you need to learn lesson on self-control which is most important...
legendary
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October 22, 2015, 12:43:18 PM
well most people will lose and that is a fact. that is why casino is always so profitable. $$$$ after $$$$ come in non stop for every month for every year. and they will sure show the super winner, and imagine the amount they earn from others r like 100 or 1000x more than the one winner.
legendary
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October 22, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
Most people loses in the long run but nobody wants to admit it when losing. When winning, everyone will post on how much they are winning but losers are often out of he spotlight as they do not want to be seen as losers. Casino games are poor gambling when you will lose eventually.
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