Everyone looses in the long run - page 69.

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Quote from: pearl11 on July 27, 2016, 08:40:47 PM

If you know how to deal with loses and don't have a compulsive personality you can make pretty good gains, but most people get caught in the feeling of greatness that you get after nailing a good debt, you feel like a god that can't fail and want more, should say youre invincible then you end up lossing it all.

I think people always being greedy when they win so much money on gambling, they will bet more and more to get more profit and it's make them busted and loses all in the end.

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If you know how to deal with loses and don't have a compulsive personality you can make pretty good gains, but most people get caught in the feeling of greatness that you get after nailing a good debt, you feel like a god that can't fail and want more, should say youre invincible then you end up lossing it all.

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Quote from: FrueGreads on July 27, 2016, 01:15:40 PM

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Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

I agree with you if you are only considering pure casino games, but if you put poker and sports betting in that equation, then I can't agree. There are many professional poker players, and sportsbetting professionals, that dedicate their life to those games, and are consistent winners in the long run. They don't win every time as that is impossible, but they do make good profit in the long run.

I'm holding a Sports betting competition, we are now going to our VIII edition, and we decided to create an Hall of Fame, to track the progress of our competitors, and even there you can see players that are doing well consistently over VII editions. Take a look at our Hall of Fame:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13024635

I do believe that you can win in the long run if you are good at poker or sports betting. And you can do that even if you are not a professional, as you can see in the link above.

I must agree with FrueGreads on this one. I'm participating on this competition and I made it to that Hall of Fame, and I'm now in 7th place there.
I'm not a professional gambler, so if I can make profit in sports betting, I guess everyone can, if they take a serious and controlled approach to it.
I see bitbollo and Omikifuse on top of that list, and they have 7 prizes on the last 7 competition, and made a profit of 1.9 and 1.5 BTC just on prizes, and then got the profit form the bets alone. Those competition last for a month so its 7 months now in profit, so that looks like profit in the medium/long run to me

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I agree with the OP. Gambling is never a good investment. It is always a loss. So you should gamble only that money which you are willing to lose in the first place.Also luck is a factor. Maybe 1 in every 10000 people do make a profit and that is the reason why people flock at casinos - in hope of earning easy cash but that never occurs.

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Quote from: katrimans on July 27, 2016, 04:00:45 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM

Not everyone, but the majority is high who loses in the long run, but it doesn't mean that we can't earn from gambling.
Gambling is a good game, gambling never need skills, it need only Luck, so luckiest people not loses in the long run way.

But I do not think it will be possible for a person to remain lucky all the time. Because your luck may favor you someday and may not in most of the days. In short, your luck not favouring days are more than your lucky days, so in long run you will definitely end up in losses with gambling.

Yes, when luck is the only deciding factor, then loss are always inevitable. The long run is just required to ensure no gambler is escaping from being losers. Ironically most of the gamblers are becoming losers in the beginning days itself.

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Quote from: prtty2gal2 on July 25, 2016, 11:37:14 AM

Quote from: drwtsn32 on July 21, 2016, 02:49:17 AM

Not "everyone".
Because "some" of us also win in the long run.
However, the number of losers is higher than the number of winners.
It will stay that way.

Not "some", only "very few". This must be the actual scenario of gambling outcome in long run.

But all the gamblers want to join into those "very few" group instead of being as rest of gamblers. The pathetic truth behind this is the efforts and time and money spent by most of the gamblers gone in vain in addition to collapse of their dreams. Teach yourself, gamble sensibly.

Well said. Many gamblers do not understand these. They themselves start learn those things after the severe attack by gambling. Until they find themselves it is necessary to know about how to gamble safely, no one think about that till then. Gambling is dangerous especially in long run.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 04:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

I agree with you if you are only considering pure casino games, but if you put poker and sports betting in that equation, then I can't agree. There are many professional poker players, and sportsbetting professionals, that dedicate their life to those games, and are consistent winners in the long run. They don't win every time as that is impossible, but they do make good profit in the long run.

I'm holding a Sports betting competition, we are now going to our VIII edition, and we decided to create an Hall of Fame, to track the progress of our competitors, and even there you can see players that are doing well consistently over VII editions. Take a look at our Hall of Fame:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13024635

I do believe that you can win in the long run if you are good at poker or sports betting. And you can do that even if you are not a professional, as you can see in the link above.

Excellent information mate. Thanks. Yes, there are a lot of professionals can be made huge money in sports betting and Poker games. In this format of games, we need more knowledge on sports. And we have to know each and every games information. Then it is possible. I am not a professional gambler, but I made some profit in Sports betting. So think about professionals.

Either you win a lot by playing this way or there's a more "natural" explanation on why you can't do this on the long run.
We'll eventually get old and we can't rely on such an income until we live.
I don't see you guys betting when you turn somewhere around 85

That would be the happy ending. First of all, we can't even win so much for that long. It might be a big win at first, maybe you can live off gambling revenue, but you will still loose one day all you had. Then comes what you said. But if you won +$5M .. oh well, then lucky you!

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Quote from: raaajlucky on July 27, 2016, 01:27:45 PM

Quote from: FrueGreads on July 27, 2016, 01:15:40 PM

Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 04:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

I agree with you if you are only considering pure casino games, but if you put poker and sports betting in that equation, then I can't agree. There are many professional poker players, and sportsbetting professionals, that dedicate their life to those games, and are consistent winners in the long run. They don't win every time as that is impossible, but they do make good profit in the long run.

I'm holding a Sports betting competition, we are now going to our VIII edition, and we decided to create an Hall of Fame, to track the progress of our competitors, and even there you can see players that are doing well consistently over VII editions. Take a look at our Hall of Fame:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13024635

I do believe that you can win in the long run if you are good at poker or sports betting. And you can do that even if you are not a professional, as you can see in the link above.

Excellent information mate. Thanks. Yes, there are a lot of professionals can be made huge money in sports betting and Poker games. In this format of games, we need more knowledge on sports. And we have to know each and every games information. Then it is possible. I am not a professional gambler, but I made some profit in Sports betting. So think about professionals.

Either you win a lot by playing this way or there's a more "natural" explanation on why you can't do this on the long run.
We'll eventually get old and we can't rely on such an income until we live.
I don't see you guys betting when you turn somewhere around 85

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Quote from: FrueGreads on July 27, 2016, 01:15:40 PM

Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 04:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

I agree with you if you are only considering pure casino games, but if you put poker and sports betting in that equation, then I can't agree. There are many professional poker players, and sportsbetting professionals, that dedicate their life to those games, and are consistent winners in the long run. They don't win every time as that is impossible, but they do make good profit in the long run.

I'm holding a Sports betting competition, we are now going to our VIII edition, and we decided to create an Hall of Fame, to track the progress of our competitors, and even there you can see players that are doing well consistently over VII editions. Take a look at our Hall of Fame:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13024635

I do believe that you can win in the long run if you are good at poker or sports betting. And you can do that even if you are not a professional, as you can see in the link above.

Excellent information mate. Thanks. Yes, there are a lot of professionals can be made huge money in sports betting and Poker games. In this format of games, we need more knowledge on sports. And we have to know each and every games information. Then it is possible. I am not a professional gambler, but I made some profit in Sports betting. So think about professionals.

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I think games like Poker you have people who spend their lives just winning games and thats on average because obviously they just look to minimise their losses and maximise their gains. If people could manage the risk of more random games outside of Poker then they too could also profit, the argument here is where you have the open and stated house advantage which means you are always going to be going up hill and cannot make a profit.

Im just not sure which games allow the sensible management of risk and possible skill to show through, so theres Poker obviously to me anyway I think you can win at this. But maybe games like Blackjack its possible to win or draw even more often. Something like roulette should be straight forward, you know its almost 50% odds but the house has its take in there so I wont argue on that one you cant win overall yet Im sure someone will mention a system! Cheesy

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There is a big chance that you can lose a lot of money with gambling and that is because you need to be really lucky in gambling otherwise it will be not possible to make any profit.
And luck happens not that often in gambling so that is bad.

It is no longer a possibility if we do gambling only for profit without knowing the science to do gambling. Because gambling is a difficult thing to being defeated. and it took a considerable effort for captive. Gambling only provides temporary benefits and do not give a very long defeat. Did gambling sparingly and don't overdo

yes we should, defeating the house is next to impossible that's for sure so doing some gamble would be advice just for fun you need to make sure
that your limitation is already been set. and after reaching it you must stop and moved out.

Yeah you will always lose in gambling because gambling made only to give entertainment to people.
For now i never made profit in gambling but i am still trying to make a profit in other games..

Gambling is not a earning way it is just a game and it give us fun and entertainment and not giving a salary. I believe on it that gambling is a only game and if we play gambling only have one thinking on our mind that we are playing and if we lose than we will be stopped for the next bet and also we don't waste our money. Than seriously we have no problem in it.

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Quote from: tommorisonwebdesign on October 03, 2015, 04:32:01 PM

Let's be honest. Gambling should only be considered for entertainment purposes only. If you are in need of quick cash, doing hard dirty work is more often than not better than hitting up the casino sites. I see way too many people in this section try to justify their gambling habits by saying they have strategies to always win. Others on this forum will go as far as to say that they are professional gamblers, and they always win. You're fooling no one and you look stupid.

All the gambling addicts I knew in real life who claimed to win from casinos all the time had serious mental issues. I went gambling with that guy once, and he ended up blaming me for him loosing at Pai Gow poker, a game that's 100% chance.

And just to let you guys know, ALL the casinos in my jurisdiction say the same things in public advertising campaigns. So far, my sig campaign manager has not PM'ed me telling me to quit bashing gambling. Nobody wins gambling, so lets stop pretending anyone here makes a living gambling online.

I agree with you if you are only considering pure casino games, but if you put poker and sports betting in that equation, then I can't agree. There are many professional poker players, and sportsbetting professionals, that dedicate their life to those games, and are consistent winners in the long run. They don't win every time as that is impossible, but they do make good profit in the long run.

I'm holding a Sports betting competition, we are now going to our VIII edition, and we decided to create an Hall of Fame, to track the progress of our competitors, and even there you can see players that are doing well consistently over VII editions. Take a look at our Hall of Fame:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13024635

I do believe that you can win in the long run if you are good at poker or sports betting. And you can do that even if you are not a professional, as you can see in the link above.

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Quote from: dukeneptun on October 03, 2015, 04:34:23 PM

Everybody loses in gambling in the long run but some clever and successfull bettors can make their living from sport bets. It's like a profession. If you have great game plans and your discipline is at max, you can make a lot of money from betting. Don't mix your feelings when you bet.

Some people do not have that capacity. They end up borrowing/stealing money from their friends without telling them it's to go play poker. Some addicts destroy the lives of everyone around them, and I am I admit one of those people who may end up doing that. I won $3000 at a casino all at once one time and I thought it was a way to make money. Never hit that jackpot again since.

lucky you i never hit a jackpot Angry

i also never hit that jackpot , I think that it was also the main reason why i quit gambling because i was depressed of not winning in all my bets so before its get worst i realize to stop

I think it is good that you realized that gambling is just playing with our luck. Everyone except the house is programmed to lose on the long run in gambling. Reason is that when you played long enough, the possibility of house edge kicking in increases until such time that every roll house edge kicks in.

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Quote from: Script3d on July 26, 2016, 11:31:13 PM

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Quote from: dukeneptun on October 03, 2015, 04:34:23 PM

Everybody loses in gambling in the long run but some clever and successfull bettors can make their living from sport bets. It's like a profession. If you have great game plans and your discipline is at max, you can make a lot of money from betting. Don't mix your feelings when you bet.

Some people do not have that capacity. They end up borrowing/stealing money from their friends without telling them it's to go play poker. Some addicts destroy the lives of everyone around them, and I am I admit one of those people who may end up doing that. I won $3000 at a casino all at once one time and I thought it was a way to make money. Never hit that jackpot again since.

lucky you i never hit a jackpot Angry

i also never hit that jackpot , I think that it was also the main reason why i quit gambling because i was depressed of not winning in all my bets so before its get worst i realize to stop

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Quote from: relq on July 27, 2016, 02:07:14 AM

I'm absolutely agree with this. Everyone loses in the long run on gambling, because i am a gambler and already gambling for a long time and i always ended with loses.

I have been gambling too. I have tried to play dices, table games, live games, sport betting and i ended miserably every time. Once in a blue moon i managed to win for that day but the profit can hardly cover up my losses for the other losing days. It is really not easy to win against the house edges.

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There is a big chance that you can lose a lot of money with gambling and that is because you need to be really lucky in gambling otherwise it will be not possible to make any profit.
And luck happens not that often in gambling so that is bad.

It is no longer a possibility if we do gambling only for profit without knowing the science to do gambling. Because gambling is a difficult thing to being defeated. and it took a considerable effort for captive. Gambling only provides temporary benefits and do not give a very long defeat. Did gambling sparingly and don't overdo

yes we should, defeating the house is next to impossible that's for sure so doing some gamble would be advice just for fun you need to make sure
that your limitation is already been set. and after reaching it you must stop and moved out.

Limitations in gambling is a sure thing that a gambler will need so he can think properly in every decisions that he makes but I think the fun part will only occur is when you win and thinking that gambling is fun even if you are losing I think you already have a mental illness in you, but the thing that I know is people that are playing gambling will only aim on winning!

disease in gambling is their very curious over every bet made. If they could get what is desired or not. So it is indeed self control is the most important thing is to keep addicted in gambling. Victory in gambling is only temporary and will not bear good results for life

Curiosity sometimes will lead to bad things and I think that when you really apply it on gambling many people will become addicted to it in an instant, Well we can not blame somebody without any idea about gambling and tries to pursue it even without further knowledge right? because yes experience is indeed a great teacher!

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 21, 2016, 07:20:33 AM

Not everyone, but the majority is high who loses in the long run, but it doesn't mean that we can't earn from gambling.
Gambling is a good game, gambling never need skills, it need only Luck, so luckiest people not loses in the long run way.

But I do not think it will be possible for a person to remain lucky all the time. Because your luck may favor you someday and may not in most of the days. In short, your luck not favouring days are more than your lucky days, so in long run you will definitely end up in losses with gambling.

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Quote from: Mr. Big on July 27, 2016, 02:15:56 AM

Quote from: relq on July 27, 2016, 02:07:14 AM

I'm absolutely agree with this. Everyone loses in the long run on gambling, because i am a gambler and already gambling for a long time and i always ended with loses.

Yeah, I too gamble before, and I notice that somehow, if you hadn't waste your resources very much if you find a way to win what was lost, then for sure you will waste time even if it's for fun...I could have done something else if I hadn't just waste time there trying to win...

But I am not against gambling cause some of the gamblers feel happy when they gamble..

Well, good for you that you realize your are just wasting your money when doing gambling for the sake of making money. Although others have made it successful for them to make money but that does not mean that we can also win. In gambling only few are chosen to win.

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Quote from: relq on July 27, 2016, 02:07:14 AM

I'm absolutely agree with this. Everyone loses in the long run on gambling, because i am a gambler and already gambling for a long time and i always ended with loses.

Yeah, I too gamble before, and I notice that somehow, if you hadn't waste your resources very much if you find a way to win what was lost, then for sure you will waste time even if it's for fun...I could have done something else if I hadn't just waste time there trying to win...

But I am not against gambling cause some of the gamblers feel happy when they gamble..

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I'm absolutely agree with this. Everyone loses in the long run on gambling, because i am a gambler and already gambling for a long time and i always ended with loses.

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