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practicaldreamer

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Was it absolutely necessary to put the BTC in trust ? I know the idea was that it would prevent their use (even in desperation) till 2020 , so as not to spook the market.
But what would be the real effect of moving some of the Satoshi coins on the market ? I'm not talking about dumping the lot, more 50 here, 100 there maybe ? Would it really be so catostrophic over the medium to long term ? Wasn't tying them up in a trust overkill ?
Does it mean that the coins should rightfully never move for fear of spooking the market ? Seems daft to me. Bitcoin is established now, its sailing by its own steam.

Hey, maybe we could start a collection for Craig. I think Franky1 should start the ball rolling.

Failing that, what do the trustees think ? We know you are out there somewhere Wink

BankrJr

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Has anyone noticed that the CSW made a wish on the Genesis Block? 50 btc of it can't be moved from the Genesis block but the real Satoshi would be able to pull that extra 16 btc out.

Check out the public note: https://blockchain.info/tx/94da714faefee60be3066ec3326f158d4872996975766e25f39c83c0317315aa

Maybe this wasn't CSW but he sure seems to like a lot of attention as opposed to Satoshi that was obviously private about his identity.

TofuLover

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after marked as a scumbag with his previous videos which using trick to faking the owning rights,i'm sure only idiots would trust him

BrewMaster

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no matter how many formula craig wright writes on glass and how many long 10 page, 1000 page articles are written about him being satoshi i will listen and believe if only i see a proper signed message the rest is just waste of time

numismatist

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Quote from: chek2fire on June 20, 2016, 07:47:43 PM

are any serious to continue support this hoaxer after what happen before one month? lol Grin

Nope. He is "nice to have" as a panic asset, but not much more.

iv4n

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Quote from: franky1 on June 20, 2016, 11:40:51 AM

with all of them patents
with all the corporations he set up
with all the grabbing funds from government
with all the scamming rather then sharing philosophy.
craig wright is definetly not satoshi..

the real satoshi didnt do non-disclosure-orders, he had open conversations
the real satoshi didnt work on secret projects that will revolution the world and then sell the idea to corporations. he released it freely
the real satoshi didnt patent anything, he made everything open licence.

all i can see craig wright doing is not having a working product or assets and instead is "creating" vapour to sell at a high fee.. definetly not a satoshi personality at all

Very nicely said, I think you pointed very nice arguments why CW can never be real Satoshi. I see logic in your words, you explained something with simple words for everyone to understand.
From the first moment's I doubt that he is Satoshi, and how time is passing "everyone is Satoshi" starting to have more sense in my head.
What you just said is something that every rightful man should follow!

jbreher

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Quote from: RocketSingh on June 20, 2016, 06:49:34 PM

Quote from: jbreher on June 20, 2016, 06:42:23 PM

Quote from: franky1 on June 20, 2016, 04:47:55 PM

search "gavin matonis wright block 9" to see lots of people discussing how wright showed them a signature that is validated by the address held in block 9

No. How 'bout you post a link to either Andresen or Matonis state that the evidence they were presented with by Wright may have been the same as the spoof.

Unless you can, then I believe I am fully caught up with the situation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4hfyyo/gavin_can_you_please_detail_all_parts_of_the/d2plygg

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Craig signed a message that I chose ("Gavin's favorite number is eleven. CSW" if I recall correctly) using the private key from block number 1.

That signature was copied on to a clean usb stick I brought with me to London, and then validated on a brand-new laptop with a freshly downloaded copy of electrum.

I was not allowed to keep the message or laptop (fear it would leak before Official Announcement).

I don't have an explanation for the funky OpenSSL procedure in his blog post.

Was that supposed to be a reply to my inquiry? Because it is not.

chek2fire

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are any serious to continue support this hoaxer after what happen before one month? lol Grin

RocketSingh

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Quote from: jbreher on June 20, 2016, 06:42:23 PM

Quote from: franky1 on June 20, 2016, 04:47:55 PM

search "gavin matonis wright block 9" to see lots of people discussing how wright showed them a signature that is validated by the address held in block 9

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4hfyyo/gavin_can_you_please_detail_all_parts_of_the/d2plygg

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jbreher

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Quote from: franky1 on June 20, 2016, 04:47:55 PM

search "gavin matonis wright block 9" to see lots of people discussing how wright showed them a signature that is validated by the address held in block 9

franky1

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Quote from: countryfree on June 20, 2016, 05:55:29 PM

OK, still no conclusive evidence but it's clear M. Wright is not your average scammer. He's hugely familiar with everything BTC. If he's not Satoshi, he has spent months learning about it, so much that he convince plenty others that he's the man.

if i was to say that i could give you tens of millions from the government. and then hundreds of millions from private investors. wouldnt you spend more than a passing glance at all the satoshi quotes and email leaks that are publicly available

chek2fire

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Quote from: countryfree on June 20, 2016, 05:55:29 PM

lol hahahahaha ahhahahjhahahahahahahahahahahah Grin

you dont really believe that this guy has nothing to do with bitcoin? He is scammer Cheesy

countryfree

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chek2fire

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not again with this scammer!

Hide_ip112

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I don't care who exactly created the bitcoin, however I want that after the owner/creator of the bitcoin is already present and claiming patent rights bitcoin. Bitcoin became stable and better yet, because the bitcoin has some constraints in several improvement and its system

practicaldreamer

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OK - 1) who is this Calvin guy in Antigua, and whats his role ? 2) who are the trustees ? 3) where does Ross Ulbricht come into it exactly ?

What a fantastic film this is going to make - one day, when we know the ending.

How incredibly moving the story of Dave Kleiman, his relationship to Craig Wright, and his ultimate demise (shortly before the price took off).

You couldn't make this shit up.

hikedoon

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Quote from: jbreher on June 19, 2016, 03:05:08 AM

Hmm. You may have had more activity if you entitled your post "Evidence of Wright maybe being Satoshi" or some such.

I found it a compelling read too but it left me thinking he was a conman that tried to bite of more than he could chew.
It took me 5 minutes to learn how to verify my address by signing a message and I'm clueless with computers.
So it seems extremely fishy to me that Wright made such a palaver of providing proof.
And this "trust holding the bitcoins" business seems like it's straight out of a crappy b movie plot.

franky1

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Re: Evidence that Craig Wright might be Satoshi after all

June 20, 2016, 04:47:55 PM

#33

Quote from: jbreher on June 20, 2016, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: franky1 on June 20, 2016, 02:03:47 PM
Quote from: jbreher on June 20, 2016, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: franky1 on June 20, 2016, 11:53:58 AM
have you not seen the many blogs reddits and forum posts showing the "details" craig displayed as proof to people like gavin and other prominent bitcoiners was simply a 7 year old piece of data anyone can copy and paste out of the blockchain.

Neither have you. The specifics of the 'proof' demonstrated to Andresen and Matonis have not been shared with the public, AFAIK.

ill just leave this here
MEUCIQDBKn1Uly8m0UyzETObUSL4wYdBfd4ejvtoQfVcNCIK4AIgZmMsXNQWHvo6KDd2Tu6euEl13VT C3ihl6XUlhcU+fM4B

wait.. i must be satoshi too

Show me where either Andresen or Matonis have indicated that the 'proof' they were given was the replay trickery to which you refer.

Oh, you mean you can't find any such claim? Interesting.
search "gavin matonis wright block 9" to see lots of people discussing how wright showed them a signature that is validated by the address held in block 9

then look at the address that can verify the MEUCIQDBK... sig.. wait for it wait for it here comes the revelation..
Bam
you have finally caught up with the whole situation

Minor Miner

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Re: Evidence that Craig Wright might be Satoshi after all

June 20, 2016, 04:34:41 PM

#32

Quote from: jbreher on June 20, 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Quote from: Minor Miner on June 20, 2016, 03:49:55 PM
So, why could he not access the address and send the bitcoin dust back to gavin as he said he would from Satoshi's account?

While we know that he _did_not_, we do not know whether he _could_not_. Though admittedly that would be a plausible conclusion.

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Don't you think a more like scenario is that Craig is in SERIOUS legal jeopardy for what appears to be a tax scam and wanted to be "outed" as satohsi so he could justify his right to patent and then sell all the patents to that company to get a lot of money fast (and save his bacon)?

I don't think enough facts are in evidence to call that scenario more likely. There is insufficient data to quantify probabilities. Again, I'll grant you plausible.

Let's ask William of Ockham what he thinks on the matter.....

Yup, Craig ain't satoshi. QED. End of scam attempt.

jbreher

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Re: Evidence that Craig Wright might be Satoshi after all

June 20, 2016, 04:32:01 PM

#31

Quote from: Minor Miner on June 20, 2016, 03:49:55 PM
So, why could he not access the address and send the bitcoin dust back to gavin as he said he would from Satoshi's account?

While we know that he _did_not_, we do not know whether he _could_not_. Though admittedly that would be a plausible conclusion.

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Don't you think a more like scenario is that Craig is in SERIOUS legal jeopardy for what appears to be a tax scam and wanted to be "outed" as satohsi so he could justify his right to patent and then sell all the patents to that company to get a lot of money fast (and save his bacon)?

I don't think enough facts are in evidence to call that scenario more likely. There is insufficient data to quantify probabilities. Again, I'll grant you plausible.