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Topic: [Exchange Service] - No KYC/No AML/No Registration - BTC,XMR,USDT,CASH (Read 287 times)

legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
So if I'm reading this correctly, your service has no clearnet link? Only an onion link for Tor?

Our clearnet domain will be available in the near future.

Ok that's good, I've been busy updating the BitMixList entries so was just wondering about that part. Thanks.
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So if I'm reading this correctly, your service has no clearnet link? Only an onion link for Tor?

Our clearnet domain will be available in the near future.
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
So if I'm reading this correctly, your service has no clearnet link? Only an onion link for Tor?
copper member
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I never said your service is a scam, it's your on words.
All I said is that you literally appeared from nowhere one month ago with same cloned design.

I see you are really following what eXch exchange is doing... and I am not connected with them in any way but I know that fee rates are changing all the time depending how available coins are.
Most of the fees on eXch are ranging between 0.5% to 1% for most trading pairs except for Monero, so overall for all coins fees didn't increase to 22% like you say.
People can find better rates but they have much bigger risk of being scammed easier or their coins could be frozen.

We prefer not to compare our service to other exchanges, but we have conducted thorough testing of their services. Based on our findings, if your coins have any red flags or are considered "dirty" after exchanging with eXch, there is a possibility that these red flags may still be present and could be detected by AML measures if you use them in legal exchanges. This applies to all coins except XMR, as their XMR coins are considered clean.

Our service does not automatically exchange coins. While we do have reserved coins for smaller amounts, our true expertise lies in effectively cleaning larger amounts of coins, such as +100BTC. Whether it's 10BTC or 100BTC, our priority is to perform our services, deduct our fee, and transfer the cleaned coins to the user's wallet. Our approach to handling coins ensures that they are completely cleaned, leaving no possibility for any remaining red flags.
legendary
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While it is true that scam services often shut down quickly, we assure you that we are just trying to provide a useful service here and have no intention of discontinuing our services shortly after starting.
I never said your service is a scam, it's your on words.
All I said is that you literally appeared from nowhere one month ago with same cloned design.

Additionally, I understand your concern regarding the increased fees on other exchanges (Like eXch which fee increased to %22 right now! ). At present, we strive to provide a unique exchange service with minimum users information requirements that ensures the acquisition of completely clean coins for a competitive fee of 4%.
I see you are really following what eXch exchange is doing... and I am not connected with them in any way but I know that fee rates are changing all the time depending how available coins are.
Most of the fees on eXch are ranging between 0.5% to 1% for most trading pairs except for Monero, so overall for all coins fees didn't increase to 22% like you say.
People can find better rates but they have much bigger risk of being scammed easier or their coins could be frozen.
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You did not directly answer my question or address the specific concern I raised. Regardless of your claimed experience in this field, you should understand that you currently lack credibility within this community. This is particularly surprising considering it is the largest and oldest Bitcoin community in the world.

Of course, LoG on your platform will not fix this, but it will at least be one step in the right direction, and at least partially protect users from potential scam.


I apologize for any confusion, but it is important to note that our service caters to specific users. In order to enhance trust and security, complete anonymity may not be achievable. However, I assure you that the features you mentioned in your previous post will be added to our website in the near future.


You literally joined about one month ago in that forum, in the end of December, so that doesn't mean anything and you don't have long reputation there.

And's it's one thing to take inspiration from some website, but it's totally different thing to totally clone everything and add few cosmetic modifications.
 

I appreciate your interest in our service. I understand your perspective, but it is important for users to consider the credibility and trustworthiness of a website. While it is true that scam services often shut down quickly, we assure you that we are just trying to provide a useful service here and have no intention of discontinuing our services shortly after starting. However, we believe that users should prioritize the functionality and reliability of a website rather than solely focusing on its appearance. Our suggestion is to explore the core features and capabilities of our service to truly understand its value.  Additionally, I understand your concern regarding the increased fees on other exchanges (Like eXch which fee increased to %22 right now! ). At present, we strive to provide a unique exchange service with minimum users information requirements that ensures the acquisition of completely clean coins for a competitive fee of 4%.


legendary
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Furthermore, we also have reputation and deposit on XSS forum, you can find us by our name : @MrStork
We would greatly appreciate your willingness to conduct a more in-depth investigation into our platform.
You literally joined about one month ago in that forum, in the end of December, so that doesn't mean anything and you don't have long reputation there.

And's it's one thing to take inspiration from some website, but it's totally different thing to totally clone everything and add few cosmetic modifications.
 
legendary
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@MrStork, so I was checking out your website and couldn't find any kind of signed "Letter of Guarantee" for deposits, which seemed a bit concerning.  Like let's imagine a scenario where for whatever reason I decide to trust in your platform, and I decide I wanna exchange some of my bitcoins.  Once I send those funds to the wallet address listed on your site, there's no way for me to later prove thats actually your address. Basically if something were to go wrong, you could just say it wasn't your address I sent my coins to, and I'd be out of luck trying to prove otherwise since there's no signature linked to the address from your end. 


Thank you for your valuable suggestion..your feedback is valuable to us, and we are committed to continuously improving our services to meet the needs of our users. thank you for bringing this to our attention .. as mentioned earlier, we have been operating in this business for a significant period of time, primarily serving individuals within our personal network. However, we have now made the decision to expand our business by creating a website. This will allow us to directly accept orders from users and further enhance the growth of our work.


You did not directly answer my question or address the specific concern I raised. Regardless of your claimed experience in this field, you should understand that you currently lack credibility within this community. This is particularly surprising considering it is the largest and oldest Bitcoin community in the world.

Of course, LoG on your platform will not fix this, but it will at least be one step in the right direction, and at least partially protect users from potential scam.
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@MrStork, so I was checking out your website and couldn't find any kind of signed "Letter of Guarantee" for deposits, which seemed a bit concerning.  Like let's imagine a scenario where for whatever reason I decide to trust in your platform, and I decide I wanna exchange some of my bitcoins.  Once I send those funds to the wallet address listed on your site, there's no way for me to later prove thats actually your address. Basically if something were to go wrong, you could just say it wasn't your address I sent my coins to, and I'd be out of luck trying to prove otherwise since there's no signature linked to the address from your end. 


Thank you for your valuable suggestion..your feedback is valuable to us, and we are committed to continuously improving our services to meet the needs of our users. thank you for bringing this to our attention .. as mentioned earlier, we have been operating in this business for a significant period of time, primarily serving individuals within our personal network. However, we have now made the decision to expand our business by creating a website. This will allow us to directly accept orders from users and further enhance the growth of our work.

The code on the site is almost identical, with very minor changes and functions such as the calculator have been removed. Even the class names are the same.
Maybe the owner has nothing to do with exch, but the developer copied the code from exch. Two different people can't write identical code with identical syntax. I leave the possibility that there may be a complete code somewhere for free download, legally.

The website developed simple form to just get users requests. To be honest, if its just like eXch exchange, we don't perceive it as a significant concern.. The website is built on one of the bootstrap framework, which i believe can be easily found through an online search. However, what truly matters in this context is the functionality of each website. Our main objective is to gather basic user information, such as their preferred cryptocurrency and desired cryptocurrency, in order to provide a seamless experience. We believe that over time, users will develop trust in our service, leading to its thumbs-up and props. We sincerely appreciate your interest.
legendary
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I just have to ask do you have any connection with eXch exchange?
You are using almost identical design like they have, Terms of Service page is very similar, and all supported coins menus are the same.
Someone should investigate this deeper, but I would suggest caution to everyone with this service.

The code on the site is almost identical, with very minor changes and functions such as the calculator have been removed. Even the class names are the same.
Maybe the owner has nothing to do with exch, but the developer copied the code from exch. Two different people can't write identical code with identical syntax. I leave the possibility that there may be a complete code somewhere for free download, legally.

exch.cx


mrstork
legendary
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@MrStork, so I was checking out your website and couldn't find any kind of signed "Letter of Guarantee" for deposits, which seemed a bit concerning.  Like let's imagine a scenario where for whatever reason I decide to trust in your platform, and I decide I wanna exchange some of my bitcoins.  Once I send those funds to the wallet address listed on your site, there's no way for me to later prove thats actually your address. Basically if something were to go wrong, you could just say it wasn't your address I sent my coins to, and I'd be out of luck trying to prove otherwise since there's no signature linked to the address from your end. 
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I just have to ask do you have any connection with eXch exchange?
You are using almost identical design like they have, Terms of Service page is very similar, and all supported coins menus are the same.
Someone should investigate this deeper, but I would suggest caution to everyone with this service.

While we greatly appreciate the commendable work being done by eXch, we would like to clarify that we do not have any affiliation with them. Although our platform is similar to them, our approach and objectives are entirely different. its a simple form and simple bootstrap framework to just handle users requests, that's all. In our work we allocate a portion of funds to support our users for smaller amounts, while for larger amounts, we follow the procedure outlined in our previous post. [An overview of our service]

Furthermore, we also have reputation and deposit on XSS forum, you can find us by our name : @MrStork
We would greatly appreciate your willingness to conduct a more in-depth investigation into our platform.

legendary
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I just have to ask do you have any connection with eXch exchange?
You are using almost identical design like they have, Terms of Service page is very similar, and all supported coins menus are the same.
Someone should investigate this deeper, but I would suggest caution to everyone with this service.

 
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An overview of our service:

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Our Website for your online exchange's available at :

http://3ck5snrn5q35ml3culc7gxi4iwpkgdpdpg7zw7mcsymupx6tzcxdtmqd.onion/

No Registration/No KYC/No AML/No Javascript

!Important : Always, remember your Case Number and if there was any problem during process, we will send your funds back to your Refund Address and if you didn't provide us Refund Address, we will send your funds back to your incoming address.
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The fee is so high. You will have a hard time out competing your rivals in business who have much lower fees and have been in business for a long time. Also, why do you announce a service if the website is not yet ready?

fee is enough for absolutely clean coins with no red flag, and even after using our service you don't need to use any mixer or exchange for being more secure .. Time will show who is better in this business .. website is almost ready but we start to get clients from forums like others.

If you can't even provide a short/simple "valid" answer to the above question, it only means one thing [there's nothing special about your method]

if you're good at something never do it for free Smiley .. first we all have some clean coins already for small amount but if you ask for big amount like +100BTC or more, its gonna take some time like 12h~24h~48h depends on amount and market but eventually you will get your coins back.. so after you submit your request, if it was small we will give you clean coins in a very short time but if its big we will take your coins and sell them to the markets then we'll take our fee's and give it back to you.

For the most part, you're right, but considering that most of the central exchanges are using various types of AML bots, sooner or later there'll be false positive results [unfortunately]
i suggest you try us once .. We have been in this business long time but it wasn't like this, it was a little bit different .. so, now we decide to open a new season here .. of course we expect you not choosing us because of our fee or you don't know us or you don't trust us but we will keep working to proof ourself. little by little we will earn your trust.
legendary
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@MrStork

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    Probably you will be wondering how we prevent of blocking/restriction, anything related to not get seized?!
    Well, that's our job, that's our talent, you don't have to be worry about that... We do that part perfectly.
    If you can't even provide a short/simple "valid" answer to the above question, it only means one thing [there's nothing special about your method]!

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    In another words, your coins comes from legal exchange users, so that means, clean coins (no red flag, no gov tracker, no aml flag, nothing).
    For the most part, you're right, but considering that most of the central exchanges are using various types of AML bots, sooner or later there'll be false positive results [unfortunately]!
legendary
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I'm not sure what's going on here. You don't even have a website, but you offer a Christmas Offer. So how the hell does that transaction get done? I believe these days you expect it to be a direct exchange via private messages.

Can you leave some proof here about keeping enough funds in reserves?
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The fee is so high. You will have a hard time out competing your rivals in business who have much lower fees and have been in business for a long time. Also, why do you announce a service if the website is not yet ready?
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Christmas Offer
Until 15th January 2024, Our fee's decrease to :

-BTC to XMR = 4%
-BTC to USDT(TRC20) = 4%
-BTC to Cash(In Person) = 20%
-BTC to Your Bank Account = 20%

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