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Quote from: ife2020 on May 05, 2019, 09:08:42 AM

One of the troubles that derailed ico investment was the dumping of the tokens once it is listed on exchange platforms

Fast forward few weeks; ieos became of the day and seemed as the best crowdfunding way
But even ieos project dump upon listing upon exchanges.

Why is there no corrective effects about this ? If ieos keep dumping upon listing on an exchange
It leaves no difference to an ico

That's the nature of the market we currently operate in. While you are still going through the project social media to look for announcements that will spur you hold the coins, whales are already dumping the coins for 5% profit in a CEX. Its an ugly phenomenon now

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This issue of dumping has to really do with investors and nothing more, they are the ones that have the power to remain in the market or leave the market at the pint they like since it is their money.

Most investors don’t stay in the market the moment they get profit in their investment, and the moment they pull that heavy fund from the project market cap, what do you expect?, a sharp decline in the value of the project. Except we want exchanges and developers to start restricting the amount of token an investor can have access to, which will be like outing them in bandage over their own money.

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Quote from: Falgorn on May 07, 2019, 01:04:04 AM

IEO projects could not solve all the problems of ICO projects. New IEO projects still solve the problem of fraud in these projects. Therefore, for investors, they began to be in high demand and therefore their tokens sold quickly. Yet other problems of ICO projects remain. Although the market rises little by little, it’s not so much that the tokens will increase in price even if the project is not very good. Therefore, only promising projects with finished products can now grow in value. All others, until real steps prove their viability, their tokens are unlikely to grow in value.

Since IEO has completely solve the issue of scam in the market, we have to look for another idea that will make the issue of dumping become a thing of the past, but then, that will mean that people will no longer have access to their money again, because the only way most coins and altcoins retain their value is through the total amount of money that is still left in their market.

The investment is just like s bank, where you put in and pull out at any time, so if the amount of money saved in the investment is bigger than the amount of money pulled out, then we should always expect dumping to happen, but a very good project will cover up in future.

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I think IEO is another way of collecting funds to support a project. It is slightly different from ICO. It ensures that a project will move forward, which means it gives investment security a bit. IEOs are launched on exchanges, and there is likelihood that a project will be listed on the same exchanges launching IEO of the project. I think IEO does not have any connection with coin dumping.

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IF you talking about ICO then can say the project is a scam and there are no big promotion or team is very lazy. And there is no headache with their project. They just want to steal investor money by publishing an ICO.
On the other hand, if you talking about IEO I suggest investors to invest in a big exchange only where you can make profit safely.

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Quote from: ife2020 on May 08, 2019, 12:58:19 AM

Quote from: enhu on May 07, 2019, 11:12:28 PM

There is no surprising to tokens being dumped when the market is open for the token/coin, its very normal even in the stockmarket. The only that gets the best of profit are the ones that buy the tokens for the cheapest price possible and then wait for the right time to sell. This isn't a problem because its economics and anyone can take the dumping of tokens positively.

Then what happens to other investors ?
Are profits only meant for presale investors ?

There should be a balance in the rise and dump of any tokens

Trading will continue no matter what. Its all about bid and ask and its being played by all including those who hold just few tokens they are part of the economy that's balance. Presale investors doesn't mean they get to have profits, some of them hold their tokens too. Not all of them are after the profit but consider those who took profits right when the market opens to buy back as they also want to accumulate.

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Quote from: Alpinat on May 08, 2019, 05:05:02 AM

That is the normal problem of new projects that are listed on the market. If you are a long crypto investor you should know that after the listing it will be a dumping situation and that is the time when you invest. You should hold it for the long term for a better profit. Dumping after the listing is unavoidable.

You are right, dumping is just like a norm now and developers should already be getting used to this, so what their strength should be channeled to now is how to build their product to a standard that will make it continue to have market value and stabilize the value of the coin.

Even if a project coin value is not that high, there must always be at list little increase to show its development, the more their product brings users to buy their coin, the more there will be an increase on the value of their coin, so I still believe that it is developers that has the majority of work to do to make the coin continue to have value after the initial dumping.

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That is the normal problem of new projects that are listed on the market. If you are a long crypto investor you should know that after the listing it will be a dumping situation and that is the time when you invest. You should hold it for the long term for a better profit. Dumping after the listing is unavoidable.

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Quote from: enhu on May 07, 2019, 11:12:28 PM

There is no surprising to tokens being dumped when the market is open for the token/coin, its very normal even in the stockmarket. The only that gets the best of profit are the ones that buy the tokens for the cheapest price possible and then wait for the right time to sell. This isn't a problem because its economics and anyone can take the dumping of tokens positively.

It's consider a normal thing since so many people not patience enough to wait to see his token/coin became money, maybe because of worries or in a hurry. I am sure, this is not only happening now, it has already happened like this since the altcoin number increased.

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Quote from: enhu on May 07, 2019, 11:12:28 PM

There is no surprising to tokens being dumped when the market is open for the token/coin, its very normal even in the stockmarket. The only that gets the best of profit are the ones that buy the tokens for the cheapest price possible and then wait for the right time to sell. This isn't a problem because its economics and anyone can take the dumping of tokens positively.

Then what happens to other investors ?
Are profits only meant for presale investors ?

There should be a balance in the rise and dump of any tokens

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Quote from: ife2020 on May 05, 2019, 09:08:42 AM

One of the troubles that derailed ico investment was the dumping of the tokens once it is listed on exchange platforms. Fast forward few weeks; ieos became of the day and seemed as the best crowdfunding way.But even ieos project dump upon listing upon exchanges.

Why is there no corrective effects about this ? If ieos keep dumping upon listing on an exchange
It leaves no difference to an ico.

Well, the thing is that when an investor is buying some tokens he has all the rights in this world to decide how and when to dispose them. There should be no impediment on this prerogative. Now, the project can implement a phased distribution of the tokens for its investors and supporters. At the same time, the project can implement incentives for people who are choosing to hold. The project must communicate to investors why they must hold the tokens by convincing them that there is a great future awaiting for the project in the next coming months and years...certainly not an easy task to do but not impossible.

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There is no surprising to tokens being dumped when the market is open for the token/coin, its very normal even in the stockmarket. The only that gets the best of profit are the ones that buy the tokens for the cheapest price possible and then wait for the right time to sell. This isn't a problem because its economics and anyone can take the dumping of tokens positively.

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Quote from: semobo on May 06, 2019, 11:57:50 AM

Quote from: ife2020 on May 05, 2019, 09:08:42 AM

One of the troubles that derailed ico investment was the dumping of the tokens once it is listed on exchange platforms

Fast forward few weeks; ieos became of the day and seemed as the best crowdfunding way
But even ieos project dump upon listing upon exchanges.

Why is there no corrective effects about this ? If ieos keep dumping upon listing on an exchange
It leaves no difference to an ico

Only investors can change the dumping so if a project target wong investors then they have chance of losing their project due to dumping from them.

It's wrong and only the developer can prevent it. Create such a buyback method or pay more to make the token to be listed on the big exchange site to get more liquidity is the only choice. So, have you experienced with those major platforms at the first when it was traded on the exchange site? Most of them getting accepted and instantly listed on big exchange site and gain big liquidity to protect the dump and investor's trust. Investors will always seek instant profit.

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There are many projects with similar cases. I don't know if they need time to develop or it's just a scam. Now most investors follow the IEO. They feel the IEO is safe and earns a lot of profits

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Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on May 07, 2019, 06:41:02 PM

Quote from: miropp on May 07, 2019, 05:47:48 PM

I think that the situation with IEO is the same as with ICO. We just need to choose the right exchanges to participate in the IEO. This is a new trend, and of course many people want to pick it up, but you should not pay attention to all.

It's possible that IEO has actually been promoted by scammers because they know people is not anymore interested in ICOs so they want to attract them into something else by giving them some kind of credibility and '' security ''. That's why you should not put all your hope into IEO because even though it's better than ICO it's still not the best solution to the problem.

I agree! We don't need to focus in choosing the right exchanges to participate in an IEO rather we should see the merits of the project itself regardless on what exchange it will be conducting its IEO. In this way, we could be a more sure that our investments went to sound projects that are less risky and not to shady ones that are orchestrated by these fraudsters.

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IEOs do not guarantee profit , it can happen that the price of the tokens fall after listing, but they should filter out projects with no use case and scam projects as well. They are a step forward towards more secure investment environment.

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Quote from: miropp on May 07, 2019, 05:47:48 PM

I think that the situation with IEO is the same as with ICO. We just need to choose the right exchanges to participate in the IEO. This is a new trend, and of course many people want to pick it up, but you should not pay attention to all.

It's possible that IEO has actually been promoted by scammers because they know people is not anymore interested in ICOs so they want to attract them into something else by giving them some kind of credibility and '' security ''. That's why you should not put all your hope into IEO because even though it's better than ICO it's still not the best solution to the problem.

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As what I've stated before, maybe all of this issues and concerns will be minimized if we focused our sights on reverse ICO's and not on ICO's or IEO's. In this way, we are assured that the project already has a working product and this greatly minimizes investment risks. With regards to token dumping, one way to avoid that is to find projects where the team and investor's tokens are vested for a period of time to make the price more stable and to avoid sudden dumping.

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I think that the situation with IEO is the same as with ICO. We just need to choose the right exchanges to participate in the IEO. This is a new trend, and of course many people want to pick it up, but you should not pay attention to all.

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If all the events are on the internet, scammers will always be. While it is possible to hack IEO offerers, finding the perfect result looks impossible. Anyway, we are trying for the best. But, I do not think it is IEO.

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