Experiment - Achieving consensus where there is disagreement - page 4.

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Quote from: johnyj on August 25, 2015, 06:34:12 PM

Miners who don't vote means they'd rather keep the current limit. Currently they are the majority, either not have implemented the vote or don't want to change anything at all

If you have worked for 3000+ developer enterprise level IT systems for over 10 years, you will understand how much wisdom in this saying: "As long as it works, don't fix it"

That is indeed the best course of action. For now. But it is also better to upgrade and patch something before it will be too late and and network will be slowed down.

It is hard to chose where percentage consensus can be achieved, I honestly would like to have 90% of votes here.

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Quote from: johnyj on August 25, 2015, 06:34:12 PM

Miners who don't vote means they'd rather keep the current limit. Currently they are the majority, either not have implemented the vote or don't want to change anything at all

If you have worked for 3000+ developer enterprise level IT systems for over 10 years, you will understand how much wisdom in this saying: "As long as it works, don't fix it"

what if leaving it alone will leads to 1-10$ fee pre TX + slow confirmation times?

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Miners who don't vote means they'd rather keep the current limit. Currently they are the majority, either not have implemented the vote or don't want to change anything at all

If you have worked for 3000+ developer enterprise level IT systems for over 10 years, you will understand how much wisdom in this saying: "As long as it works, don't fix it" And I suppose that many of the IT veterans here hold the same view

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Quote from: adamstgBit on August 25, 2015, 06:11:30 PM

Quote from: coins101 on August 25, 2015, 06:04:09 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 25, 2015, 06:00:17 PM

sure it's likely that the 25% that don't agree with will fall into line, but can we really call 75% a successful agreement

lets all vote 90%

But that assumes all miners are paying attention. Which technically they are, but that's a factor of centralization of mining.

In an ideal - cpu mining from the client - world....75% would be more than sufficient.

let's assume that only miners that vote count, miners that don't make an effort to vote are said to throw away their vote and are not considered.

But that assumes that internet bandwidth is uniform around the world and that all the miners technical challenges are uniform. 75% is still sufficient.

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No way there will not be 10% of trolls whose only goal in this experiment will be to make it fail. I voted 75% and will not change my vote because I think it is the best answer, not that anyone care. XT is the way to save BTC from corruption, but there are already too many dumbs in Bitcoin world to avoid the best decision to be taken. I also think that 65% is actually enough.

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Quote from: coins101 on August 25, 2015, 06:04:09 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on August 25, 2015, 06:00:17 PM

sure it's likely that the 25% that don't agree with will fall into line, but can we really call 75% a successful agreement

lets all vote 90%

But that assumes all miners are paying attention. Which technically they are, but that's a factor of centralization of mining.

In an ideal - cpu mining from the client - world....75% would be more than sufficient.

let's assume that only miners that vote count, miners that don't make an effort to vote are said to throw away their vote and are not considered.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on August 25, 2015, 06:00:17 PM

sure it's likely that the 25% that don't agree with will fall into line, but can we really call 75% a successful agreement

lets all vote 90%

But that assumes all miners are paying attention. Which technically they are, but that's a factor of centralization of mining.

In an ideal - cpu mining from the client - world....75% would be more than sufficient.

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Interesting. Let see how it goes.

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sure it's likely that the 25% that don't agree with will fall into line, but can we really call 75% a successful agreement

lets all vote 90%

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Simple but clear majority seems to be the consensus point.

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Quote from: BitcoinExchangeIndia.com on August 25, 2015, 05:23:01 PM

First all BIPs need to get its place here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

People can not take decission on scattered information.

huh? this is just an experiment to see if a bunch of poeple who have different opinions can agree to all agree to the same thing for a tiny reward.

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First all BIPs need to get its place here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

People can not take decission on scattered information.

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This is an experiment, if the poll shows 90%+ votes for one option for over 12hours, a donation will be made to https://worldaid.org/donate-bitcoin-for-charity/. you can change your vote at will, and discuss / try to get everyone to agree to a specific option.

What should be the threshold for saying "miners are in agreement BIP XXX wins!"
assume that only miners that vote count, miners that don't make an effort to vote are said to throw away their vote and are not considered.

good luck.

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