Topic: [Experiment] Do shitposters care if someone replies to their posts? - page 2. (Read 640 times)
April 21, 2019, 08:29:10 PM
Excellent way to judge - if someone posts a reply or even asks a question and straight up fails to revisit it - they've either forgotten or they're too busy creating dead-end replies elsewhere. Someone above said "these experiments are just shitposts themselves". Everything can be a shitpost at the end of the day (this is why most forums don't have big markets - if at all - for user signatures).
April 21, 2019, 08:23:10 PM
Great findings there, but you seem to be missing an important factor which is the fact that they might not even notice your question, not saying they would have answered, but there is still a chance.
Not too long ago , before i started using piggy's notification bot, i am pretty sure i missed a lot, i am below average in terms of (how to use the forum) - up to this moment i don't know how to see if someone mentioned my name somewhere, and i do post in a few sections so there is no way for me to remember every post i make then go back to check if someone said something to me.
But it is pretty much safe to assume that your results are fairly accurate by at least 80% at worst case scenario.
Not too long ago , before i started using piggy's notification bot, i am pretty sure i missed a lot, i am below average in terms of (how to use the forum) - up to this moment i don't know how to see if someone mentioned my name somewhere, and i do post in a few sections so there is no way for me to remember every post i make then go back to check if someone said something to me.
But it is pretty much safe to assume that your results are fairly accurate by at least 80% at worst case scenario.
April 21, 2019, 08:20:12 PM
Or do you really think 95% of the Bitcoin Discussion frequenters are actually having a discussion, reading and replying to each other?
As "excuse" if someone doesn't reply sometimes is that the number of people leaving comments in a thread just kills the discussion. In the German section we have also some good discussion threads and an hour later there are 30 new replies. If I start answering all the people who have quoted me that is sometimes a bit confusing for the discussion so I think in some cases people tend to refrain answering if it's not necessary. Re: Top 5 safest Bitcoin and Altcoin wallet
1. Blockchain
Blockchain is the technology behind Bitcoin's turnaround itself, so its superiority as a provider of Bitcoin wallet is definitely beyond doubt. You can even see all transactions from all accounts, whether it's Bitcoin acceptance or delivery.
-snip-
P.S: He's talking about blockchain.info (now dot com) wallet.Blockchain is the technology behind Bitcoin's turnaround itself, so its superiority as a provider of Bitcoin wallet is definitely beyond doubt. You can even see all transactions from all accounts, whether it's Bitcoin acceptance or delivery.
-snip-
That's a good one.
And Fiat has invented our money system. xD
Honestly, I'm starting to think these "experiments" on shitposters are just shitposts themselves. You aren't helping the problem lmao, they won't stop shitposting so that makes your post pointless. I've seen at least 50 of these posts today about things like yobit and people posting crap, just stop.
Yes, we can't help, the forum is lost if the shitposters go for their hunt... xDIf you have effective ideas to help and prevent shitposts while the traffic on Bitcointalk stays high I would appreciate it if you share it.
It isn't just shitposters who don't reply, either. Good posters who just make a lot of posts may not return to a thread that someone asked them a question in. And I guarantee you I've missed some questions that members have asked me in some threads. It just happens when there are so many threads and posts like there are on this forum.
In my opinion, the problem is a missing notification if we are quoted. I'm sure the people interested in a good discussion will reply if they get a notification that someone quoted them and asked an important question, it's not the lack of interest to reply. Of course, that won't solve the shitposter problem - they won't reply even if they get notifications all the time. In addition, they are quoted mostly by other shitposters.
I know about the tool from Piggy but I would prefer in-forum solutions so I keep checking all the threads myself (still possible to miss questions)
I'm all for science and experimentation, but this was a teaspoon of weak sauce, OP. No offense, I know you meant well.
I guess I've just chosen the worst point of time to post it. I didn't know that there will be the big YoBit issues when I had the idea and started to prepare the topic around 2 weeks ago. But on the other hand it's obvious that we have to be prepared much better if the bull market starts. There are still so many accounts waiting to get back to business (maybe bought accounts) and they are not interested in making quality posts :/
April 21, 2019, 07:13:00 PM
The lack of real back-and-forth discussion was one of the first things I noticed about this forum, and that was probably even before I created this account. It was weird to me, because most discussion forums have threads in which people are actually having a conversation and often they even seemed to know each other on a personal level (I'm thinking of several forums not related to crypto). And then eventually I figured out why: signature campaigns. Nuff said.
It isn't just shitposters who don't reply, either. Good posters who just make a lot of posts may not return to a thread that someone asked them a question in. And I guarantee you I've missed some questions that members have asked me in some threads. It just happens when there are so many threads and posts like there are on this forum.
I'm all for science and experimentation, but this was a teaspoon of weak sauce, OP. No offense, I know you meant well.
It isn't just shitposters who don't reply, either. Good posters who just make a lot of posts may not return to a thread that someone asked them a question in. And I guarantee you I've missed some questions that members have asked me in some threads. It just happens when there are so many threads and posts like there are on this forum.
I'm all for science and experimentation, but this was a teaspoon of weak sauce, OP. No offense, I know you meant well.
Honestly, I'm starting to think these "experiments" on shitposters are just shitposts themselves. You aren't helping the problem lmao, they won't stop shitposting so that makes your post pointless. I've seen at least 50 of these posts today about things like yobit and people posting crap, just stop.
Ah, give him a break. And the Yobit stuff will eventually die down, just like every drama does around here. 
April 21, 2019, 07:08:24 PM
Honestly, I'm starting to think these "experiments" on shitposters are just shitposts themselves. You aren't helping the problem lmao, they won't stop shitposting so that makes your post pointless. I've seen at least 50 of these posts today about things like yobit and people posting crap, just stop.
Maybe a call out for the problem? Some people just deny the truth about the forum being full of those shitposters.On the other side, that's what I would call an example of a shitpost:
yes gambling is entertainment, people gamble because its fun and it "entertains" them...
Top-notch analysis sherlock.
April 21, 2019, 06:57:20 PM
Honestly, I'm starting to think these "experiments" on shitposters are just shitposts themselves. You aren't helping the problem lmao, they won't stop shitposting so that makes your post pointless. I've seen at least 50 of these posts today about things like yobit and people posting crap, just stop.
April 21, 2019, 06:34:39 PM
Expected. 
Most of them just jump from thread to thread posting any nonsense they wasted 30 seconds thinking about until they fill their weekly "quota" of posts.
Or do you really think 95% of the Bitcoin Discussion frequenters are actually having a discussion, reading and replying to each other?
The worst part is when they actually spread misinformation (it's crazy the amount of incorrect shit or bad suggestions they give). I try correcting them when I see this kind of stuff, but they never come back.
I once gave someone a Neutral tag because of the amount of misinformation he spread.
Re: Top 5 safest Bitcoin and Altcoin wallet
Most of them just jump from thread to thread posting any nonsense they wasted 30 seconds thinking about until they fill their weekly "quota" of posts.
Or do you really think 95% of the Bitcoin Discussion frequenters are actually having a discussion, reading and replying to each other?
The worst part is when they actually spread misinformation (it's crazy the amount of incorrect shit or bad suggestions they give). I try correcting them when I see this kind of stuff, but they never come back.
I once gave someone a Neutral tag because of the amount of misinformation he spread.
Re: Top 5 safest Bitcoin and Altcoin wallet
1. Blockchain
Blockchain is the technology behind Bitcoin's turnaround itself, so its superiority as a provider of Bitcoin wallet is definitely beyond doubt. You can even see all transactions from all accounts, whether it's Bitcoin acceptance or delivery.
-snip-
P.S: He's talking about blockchain.info (now dot com) wallet. Blockchain is the technology behind Bitcoin's turnaround itself, so its superiority as a provider of Bitcoin wallet is definitely beyond doubt. You can even see all transactions from all accounts, whether it's Bitcoin acceptance or delivery.
-snip-
April 21, 2019, 06:28:01 PM
It's well known that the shitposters are suspected to give a shit whether anyone will reply to their posts in a spam megathread or not so I had the idea to make an experiment: Asking them questions and get a proof how serious the problem is or if our suspicion will be proven wrong. (My experiment took place before the YoShit disaster).
Finally, we can get an official proof if we were right, suspecting them ignorance to stop following the "discussion" after they have submitted their one-liners.
I've asked 11 of them questions where I had no doubt that a normal user would reply. (I used my alt account 0xmiau because I couldn't bother my main account to post there and wade through the shitposts.)
I've tried to make it as simple as possible for them to answer and only replied to posts where my reply is directly below theirs. After I quoted them I waited a week for their reply.
Here is my result:
#1
No reply:
http://archive.is/kZJzQ
http://archive.is/unGF5
http://archive.is/oREyg
http://archive.is/d8jmY
http://archive.is/WQg3a
http://archive.is/dwReg
#2
The last part is true, most altcoins have huge problems because they were only issued for the sake of issuing another altcoin. While I agree to your last part, the previous part of your comment is totally contradictionary. 95% of all Altcoins are dead more or less in my opinion.
Why do you have the assumption that "altcoin is still standing and used by many people"?No reply:
http://archive.is/lR9jO
http://archive.is/cbs9d
http://archive.is/DT7zX
http://archive.is/RLrNk
http://archive.is/yn5r8
http://archive.is/g528k
http://archive.is/prldS
#3
And please tell me only one good reason why it would be positive if XRP defeats Bitcoin.
No reply:
http://archive.is/QRgAg
http://archive.is/ulVcZ
http://archive.is/jCz1H
#4
No reply:
http://archive.is/h6WFV
#5
Or may I ask where do you think own mistakes are better to learn from?
No reply:
http://archive.is/ZMflq
http://archive.is/O2T98
http://archive.is/fITAb
http://archive.is/Hrx0V
http://archive.is/E3uVb
http://archive.is/W5tbk
#6
Last year many people thought that by the end of 2018 there will be a bull run. But that didn't happen and the price was still very low. Banteng is one that is expected to be coming soon and now the market is in very good condition. But I don't think the bull is there and it still takes a long time.
May I ask what's Banteng? Is it good for us or should we be afraid that Banteng is coming soon?
No reply, but someone else replied. There is still a chance that the user would have replied if someone else didn’t reply instead:
http://archive.is/SB54c
http://archive.is/K0JUZ
http://archive.is/bn0gG
#7
No reply:
http://archive.is/FbYIO
http://archive.is/jJime
http://archive.is/AIBBG
#8
Why are you sure that exchanges will be a guarantee for successful projects?
No reply:
http://archive.is/J6yHV
http://archive.is/aMx7Y
http://archive.is/MVOFE
http://archive.is/4XMVN
#9
No reply:
http://archive.is/zOqoC
http://archive.is/BTKp0
http://archive.is/htI37
#10
However, regarding your first part. I don't think it will happen that some people will generate constructive comments in Altcoin discussion, especially when the title is so generic like Bitcoin vs Ethereum. They will just use it to post the well-known meaningless one-liners.
And while I've read OP again and had already a bad feeling that it's something we know very well here already, I've checked it and it's true:
OP is a plagiarizer, same content found here: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031416/bitcoin-vs-ethereum-driven-different-purposes.asp
Website archived: http://archive.is/eT7DY#selection-2437.6-2437.475
OP archived: http://archive.is/Rl7f0#selection-511.0-511.469
So what do you think? Is OP really creating a topic to discuss something or is it just to make a place for another bunch of shitposts? :
No reply:
http://archive.is/bXGWi
http://archive.is/4mkM5
http://archive.is/kiY1Q
http://archive.is/nqX3V
http://archive.is/Qchvm
And in addition, I caught a plagiarizer (reported here)
#11
You gave me a good laugh.
Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.
I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?
I got a reply:
You gave me a good laugh.
Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.
I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?
Oh yes, my mistake, I did not correctly read the name of the branch, haha. I apologize for this embarrassment.
http://archive.is/cP6Gg#selection-5195.0-5195.49
Conclusion: out of 11 users 10 didn’t reply. I know, the result is not very representative but if someone is interested to do a similar experiment, feel free to do it.
And the recently launched YoShitShow is almost a guarantee that the issues won't get better...
Finally, we can get an official proof if we were right, suspecting them ignorance to stop following the "discussion" after they have submitted their one-liners.
I've asked 11 of them questions where I had no doubt that a normal user would reply. (I used my alt account 0xmiau because I couldn't bother my main account to post there and wade through the shitposts.)
I've tried to make it as simple as possible for them to answer and only replied to posts where my reply is directly below theirs. After I quoted them I waited a week for their reply.
Here is my result:
#1
Now with the arrival of the crypto of spring-everything starts to gain momentum.The best and easiest way to accumulate altcoin is to take part in a bantikompaniya or participate in ico.I choose the best ico and at the very beginning I go to the maximum.You can buy at the beginning of the company very successful coins - for a little money.Now is a good time to start saving coins.
Can you please enlighten me what means bantikompaniya?? Never heard this word but I have a guess already...http://archive.is/kZJzQ
http://archive.is/unGF5
http://archive.is/oREyg
http://archive.is/d8jmY
http://archive.is/WQg3a
http://archive.is/dwReg
#2
That's understandable. Many projects are not worth a cent. During the hyip began the emergence of a huge number of meaningless projects. Time will kill them.
as far as I know, not all of the coins until now are worth zero. because until now altcoin is still standing and used by many people even though there are many problems that always occur in altcoin so far.Why do you have the assumption that "altcoin is still standing and used by many people"?
http://archive.is/lR9jO
http://archive.is/cbs9d
http://archive.is/DT7zX
http://archive.is/RLrNk
http://archive.is/yn5r8
http://archive.is/g528k
http://archive.is/prldS
#3
I don't see that happening but Crypto at times does magic that suprises us but for me it's like a dream that will never come true
Then, I'm wondering why you're still here on Bitcointalk if it's your dream that a centralized shitcoin like XRP will defeat Bitcoin. Ok, maybe your post wasn't thoughtful and just typed in a few seconds to spam the forum and collect worthless ICO shitcoins? And please tell me only one good reason why it would be positive if XRP defeats Bitcoin.
http://archive.is/QRgAg
http://archive.is/ulVcZ
http://archive.is/jCz1H
#4
If you see that your coin falls in price and the fall will continue further, then it makes sense to sell it and then buy at a cheaper price. Thus, you will have on your hands the same amount of coins, as well as profit from the difference in the price of sale and purchase.
Your advice sounds easy at the first view but is very difficult to do. How are you sure that the price will drop further? It's also possible that the price will go up again just after you sold. Do you have a strategy to know if the price will keep decreasing? http://archive.is/h6WFV
#5
Of course, errors in the world of cryptocurrency are very expensive. But if you do not do them, you will not learn anything. All normal profits from a long experience. And this is a normal situation.
Not definitely, it's also a security measure to test new things with little amounts of money and if someone makes a mistake the loss won't hurt much but you've still learned your lesson. And to avoid even more losses it's better to read much before money can be lost. Or may I ask where do you think own mistakes are better to learn from?
http://archive.is/ZMflq
http://archive.is/O2T98
http://archive.is/fITAb
http://archive.is/Hrx0V
http://archive.is/E3uVb
http://archive.is/W5tbk
#6
Most of the people said in this board there will be no bull run in the late of 2018 and there is a high probability that bull run comes in mid-2019. What's your thought about it?
Last year many people thought that by the end of 2018 there will be a bull run. But that didn't happen and the price was still very low. Banteng is one that is expected to be coming soon and now the market is in very good condition. But I don't think the bull is there and it still takes a long time.
http://archive.is/SB54c
http://archive.is/K0JUZ
http://archive.is/bn0gG
#7
personally i think ethereum is way more undervalued in comparison with bit[Suspicious link removed]d luck for everyone like me how still believe in the future of the ethereum blockchain and ecosystem
Why do you think ETH is way more undervalued in comparison with Bitcoin? ETH has still some more problems than Bitcoin and I would be surprised if there are reasons why it's undervalued. Which reasons do you have for your assumption? http://archive.is/FbYIO
http://archive.is/jJime
http://archive.is/AIBBG
#8
The recent introduction and success of IEO proves this right, because the exchanges validate the projects, so investor feel safe to invest their money.
Also a research done by exchanges is still no guarantee that the listed projects are legit and even if they are legit there's still an option that they fail. The exchange can't do anything if the developers are bad. In Germany, we had a big ICO, they collected 40 million $ advertised on big German websites and finally the project is now almost failed. It's likely that every exchange would have listed them because it seemed like a good project but it wasn't. Why are you sure that exchanges will be a guarantee for successful projects?
http://archive.is/J6yHV
http://archive.is/aMx7Y
http://archive.is/MVOFE
http://archive.is/4XMVN
#9
Bitcoin and Ethereum are way too volatile for my liking with a potential to return little profit with high risk. I rather discover gems like any coin and invest in it.
Ok, so your reason why you dislike investing in BTC and ETH is because they are too volatile? But actually, most shitcoins are much more volatile and their price can be easily manipulated by pump and dump. May I ask you why you think that random / unknown coins are less volatile than BTC / ETH? I think it's quite the opposite. http://archive.is/zOqoC
http://archive.is/BTKp0
http://archive.is/htI37
#10
I understand that people needs to makes the forum lively and create topics that will generate constructive comments for study purpose but there are some things we know that is not a point to contend with, like this, how can someone compare ETH to BTC, ever since ETH was created, has there been any development that they have achieved that has made them grow more than they are now, but look at BTC, every little development shows immediately in its value at stretch.
At bottom line, I am not saying that ethereum is not good, they are good and cannot perform more than 10% of bitcoin task.
I agree to your opinion about BTC and ETH that there is no reason why ETH should be better than BTC and I don't see any reasons in the future. The move to PoS will be very difficult and bring up some more serious issues for ETH. At bottom line, I am not saying that ethereum is not good, they are good and cannot perform more than 10% of bitcoin task.
However, regarding your first part. I don't think it will happen that some people will generate constructive comments in Altcoin discussion, especially when the title is so generic like Bitcoin vs Ethereum. They will just use it to post the well-known meaningless one-liners.
And while I've read OP again and had already a bad feeling that it's something we know very well here already, I've checked it and it's true:
OP is a plagiarizer, same content found here: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031416/bitcoin-vs-ethereum-driven-different-purposes.asp
Website archived: http://archive.is/eT7DY#selection-2437.6-2437.475
OP archived: http://archive.is/Rl7f0#selection-511.0-511.469
So what do you think? Is OP really creating a topic to discuss something or is it just to make a place for another bunch of shitposts? :
http://archive.is/bXGWi
http://archive.is/4mkM5
http://archive.is/kiY1Q
http://archive.is/nqX3V
http://archive.is/Qchvm
And in addition, I caught a plagiarizer (reported here)
#11
I do not understand how locking a bounty thread can even affect anything at all. Reports are sent to the bounty branch, even after the bounty has ended, what prevention of price fall can we talk about ...
LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro! You gave me a good laugh.
Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.
I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?
I do not understand how locking a bounty thread can even affect anything at all. Reports are sent to the bounty branch, even after the bounty has ended, what prevention of price fall can we talk about ...
LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro! You gave me a good laugh.
Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards.
I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation?
Oh yes, my mistake, I did not correctly read the name of the branch, haha. I apologize for this embarrassment.
Conclusion: out of 11 users 10 didn’t reply. I know, the result is not very representative but if someone is interested to do a similar experiment, feel free to do it.
And the recently launched YoShitShow is almost a guarantee that the issues won't get better...
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