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newbie
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November 12, 2016, 08:51:10 PM
#51
I really don't understand why people think crowd-sourcing is where the "innovation" is. People have been crowd-sourcing and offering shares in potential profit for hundreds of centuries. To put it in perspective, the British Conquest of India was partly "crowd-sourced" in the sense that East India Company had a number of private investors. You could say wars were also crowd-sourced in the sense that bonds issued to fund these wars in the 17th century were bought by private investors. None of this is what's "innovative"

The primary innovation in the ecosystem was what Satoshi offered when he made a system that allowed all of us to remove the barriers set by conventional banking and fiat system . A lot of these "investments" are being made because you have an anonymous system of value transfer that happens digitally. Granted a lot of the new coins (especially IOTA ) are solving drastically new problems, what am trying to talk of is the pointless hype around them.

I would respectfully disagree with you here in this example. The dutch east india traing company was a MASSIVE innovation, at the time, as it was the first example of capital formation. It was, at the time, and is to this day, one of the single most innovative legal structures, aside from the "trust" in legal history. Moreover, it was not "crowdsourced" in the sense that we know it, as it was only made avaliable to the aristocracy in part as a revolt to the monarch who was not always able or did not allow for the funding of expeditions. It was more akin to a "private Placement" the innovation of crowdfunding, as we know it today; is not the idea, but the methods in which it is done, the technology we have as the enabler. Which is where I agree with you. The difference from today, is anyone who has an interest no matter if you're rich, poor, smart or stupid, can participate.

If I understand you correctly, you seem to want to link the prevailing and good things from our investment regulatory system and apply them to ICOs but in the spirit of decentralization and crypto? I agree with you if thats the case, the question is what should we as a collective hold, and what should we shed to provide a working framework for issuers, and for investors so that our community can thrive?

I think a productive way to look at this might be to come up with a "Manifesto" for appcoins, ICOs etc, a loose, guiding framework that people can reference and be held accountable to so that a culture can be defined and governd around what we collective believe are the proper ways to issue and invest in ICOs. lets not overlook that on the other side as an issuer, there are nefarious things that investors do to screw with valuations and the success of platforms. I would sumbit that the DAO profiteer probably had it in for the whole Ethereum ecosystem, but thats a topic for another discussion.

I would say that respect to you for raising all this as a topic as it is necessary part of the eveolution of the community. I just hope we can sort it out before some bureacrat does and then it sucks for everyone.
legendary
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November 02, 2016, 05:42:00 AM
#50
POW all the way ...fair launch protocol no nijna scam mines.

How to make it happen though?
full member
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November 02, 2016, 02:23:44 AM
#49
This article comes back to be in relevance in light of Zcash ? Smiley
full member
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July 03, 2016, 05:09:50 AM
#48
WHY ARE WE HERE ?
We all came here years ago to support BITCOIN.
Why ?
For the concept of an open source decentralized digital currency.
This needs to replace the FIAT money not be an add-on scheme to FIAT.
If we NEED fiat to buy say ETH tokens then it can NOT be a currency no matter how hard you try.

A digital currency has to REPLACE FIAT !
It can not if you NEED Fiat to get the damn ICO tokens  Cheesy

..use your brain people.
And if you are not making a currency then it's just a straight up Pyramid Scheme !


Other than this kind of magical existence of bitcoin, part of the problem is just that. I doubt many believe that either. Why does it have to to replace fiat? What does that accomplish? Do you really believe it is living up to what it promised? I mean I wish all the best for it and its supporters, that it may go on forever and so on, because there is no direct evidence of it being something evil itself (regardless events in its eco-system). But it is just beliefs and all that just as well. You believe it can structure society in the way fiat does, being one single currency?


Conspiracies aside, part of the reason why there has been a push for replacing fiat is the lack of trust in government bodies. Due example being nation states like Zimbabwe that fuelled inflation and took local economies down to nothing. A more recent example would be brexit where'in the people did make a choice but I don't see why public opinion should affect the value of a local currency. If you really notice, the lack of diligence by nation states in taking their financial decisions have played a major role in pumping Bitcoin. There is an almost direct corelation between Bitcoin price and monetary devaluation.
sr. member
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July 03, 2016, 04:51:08 AM
#47
Hey my ass is itchy..

mmmkay, calling the ambulance.
newbie
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July 03, 2016, 04:40:20 AM
#46
WHY ARE WE HERE ?
We all came here years ago to support BITCOIN.
Why ?
For the concept of an open source decentralized digital currency.
This needs to replace the FIAT money not be an add-on scheme to FIAT.
If we NEED fiat to buy say ETH tokens then it can NOT be a currency no matter how hard you try.

A digital currency has to REPLACE FIAT !
It can not if you NEED Fiat to get the damn ICO tokens  Cheesy

..use your brain people.
And if you are not making a currency then it's just a straight up Pyramid Scheme !


Other than this kind of magical existence of bitcoin, part of the problem is just that. I doubt many believe that either. Why does it have to to replace fiat? What does that accomplish? Do you really believe it is living up to what it promised? I mean I wish all the best for it and its supporters, that it may go on forever and so on, because there is no direct evidence of it being something evil itself (regardless events in its eco-system). But it is just beliefs and all that just as well. You believe it can structure society in the way fiat does, being one single currency?
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
July 02, 2016, 11:15:15 PM
#45
This is about Digital Currencies.
You all choose not to see the correct path / train of thought.
Simply because you want to profit off of them.

ICO's are a great way for the dev etc to snag a huge shitload of coins for themselves.
When they should not get any !

People we are not talking about paying a contract coder to create a software program for you.
We are talking about launching a currency ..and the launch fairness *is* the entire point !

...

..and the launch fairness *is* the entire point !

You can try to say (regarding the Bitcoin launch) "it was fair", but very few people knew about it.
Was the end result fair?
"Satoshi" (if still alive) has 500,000+ or ~1,000,000 BTC's, is it a display of fairness for one person to have so many?
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
July 02, 2016, 09:26:39 PM
#44
This is about Digital Currencies.
You all choose not to see the correct path / train of thought.
Simply because you want to profit off of them.

ICO's are a great way for the dev etc to snag a huge shitload of coins for themselves.
When they should not get any !

People we are not talking about paying a contract coder to create a software program for you.
We are talking about launching a currency ..and the launch fairness *is* the entire point !

It can not be a currency if the dev holds his hand out and says
i need $250,000.00 usd to create your new decentralized digital CURRENCY.

I have like 20 super long points why ICO's are BAD and i am always thinking of new ones.
But i don't think you guys care.
Think ?
I KNOW you don't !

Go out and research Pyramid / Ponzi schemes.. then come here.

No legit dev should have his hand out "crowd funding"
If you do not have the means to be coding the worlds internet currency
then you should NOT be doing it period .

Do not create a problem on purpose to sell me the solution.
We need a currency ? #6,000+ ?
Solution ? Your money invested into it ?

Has any ICO ever produced a viable currency that innovates over Bitcoin ?
NO ..not even close !
ALL OF THEM have been a pointless cash grab (not a currency) ICO scheme.

I think it hinges on how the starting coins came about.
The US Federal Reserve for example simply fabricates them on demand. (out of thin air)
They are not asking the public to pay them some other already dominating currency
to buy another newer currency.. that ACT alone makes them scammy !
AND no you can not try and wiggle around that.. it is how SCAMS WORK !

WHY ARE WE HERE ?
We all came here years ago to support BITCOIN.
Why ?
For the concept of an open source decentralized digital currency.
This needs to replace the FIAT money not be an add-on scheme to FIAT.
If we NEED fiat to buy say ETH tokens then it can NOT be a currency no matter how hard you try.

A digital currency has to REPLACE FIAT !
It can not if you NEED Fiat to get the damn ICO tokens  Cheesy

..use your brain people.
And if you are not making a currency then it's just a straight up Pyramid Scheme !

..dig deep people.
I want to see us all peer deep into this stuff and reach down for answers.
We got off track guys !
We came to support a decentralized open source digital currency
and what is the hottest "coin" in town ?

A "coin" that is..
- Centralized.
- Launched closed-source sometimes.
- Not a currency at all.
- Has no innovative / purpose
- A gimmick that is unused.
- Incomplete half-cooked concepts with bits of code / vaporware idea's
- ACTUALLY used for nothing but profit.

People we have failed the point in EVERY aspect possible.
100% Failure.
Bitcoin still reigns King and this will not be changing unless a real coin comes out to rival it.

And what do we see ?
ANOTHER coin.. 6,000 ANN topics here & climbing.
And we have another coin posted with what excuse now ?
It is STILL another coin.. #6,000
So you better have a good excuse.. what is it ?
Oh really ?
Did it already rival Bitcoin or will it ever ?
No, no and no.

Stop ignoring the context & reality of what ACTUALLY is happening here !
Trying to be idealistic about a method of scamming the ICO is a joke !
..don't even bother.  Roll Eyes

Did Satoshi say hey give me 1 million dollars
and i will post a project scheme idea that is partially complete ?
BlockNET did with their ICO..
So what do you do when Satoshi decides hey ..know what ?
Fuck it you all already paid me so..screw it.. i am sick or broke my hand or hackers or was raped by a sasquatch or unicorns stole my shoes or BUGZ.. or dem IRC flalws attackin' ma coldz storage'z...  Roll Eyes

Hey my ass is itchy.. sorry guys fuck you thanks for the MILLION dollars.
And yeah i know the hosting bill expired and the site is offline.
..i must have forgot to pay it.. as had happened not long with BlockNET 1 yr after the ICO

Know why i bring up the scammy train wreck called BlockNET so much ?
Because i kept saying THIS is the beginning if we don't stop this shit here and now
then it will only get worse.. and since ?
The ICO shit has exploded out of proportion as I PREDICTED !
Not only is launching an ICO scammy but they could not even add 1 innovation to Bitcoin with them !

I WAS HERE WHEN THE FIRST ONE LAUNCHED
and i recall how this whole forum flamed them to death 100%
..you all turned scammy asshole on me.

When i hear the word crowd-sale or crowd-funding or angel-investing or ICO or IPO or ITO
i want to fucking puke !
You people make me sick !

I have buried every ICO-term you all come up with so keep making up new ones.
I will make sure Earth know that no matter how many times they change names
it will always be known as...................... S C A M

This is not the stock exchange fuck your terminology and your white papers.
Using stock market jargon is grooming the crowd here into treating this as penny stocks for crypto.
But this is not the stock exchange so fuck you are scammy bullshit.

No ICO will ever get past me with out FUD unless i see people regularly getting
jail time for "insider trading".. until then you are all on my shitlist !
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July 02, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
#43
What we have right now are a lot of scum like beings utilizing a technology built with the highest of ideals to trick and steal.

In terms of a pure rational analysis there is no theft or fraud. Alice sends money to Bob, because she believes she will get something in return. So these are just risk factors. ICO's are an early, simple form of capital investment structures for blockchains. Instead of paying for all developing costs upfront, a project can raise funds (secured via escrow hopefully) and then recoup these with the float of a currency. Potentially there are other ways to pay for developer costs. Its a much better model than what Bitcoin has at the moment (sponsoring through the backdoor).

Well at best maybe you have stupid scams probably where the devs fooled themselves as well  Grin

I mean it is really doubtful whether any startup should do funding this way. it is extremely risky for your continuity even if you have good intentions. if you want something for everyone then make it open, that shouldnt need a corp. and even if you do that you might find funds you need in different ways

It is really interesting to see differential perspectives on ICO's. Some think there is no scam involved as these are risk factors involved as with any investment. Some think these are outright scams as most scams could be avoided. I come somewhere in between.

I am looking to compile information on the rise of alt's and their history in general some time in the future. It would be great to record how a parallel financial revolution occurred to Bitcoin and gave birth to coins like Ethereum. Wonder if people would even buy a book on  that.
newbie
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July 02, 2016, 05:16:16 PM
#42
What we have right now are a lot of scum like beings utilizing a technology built with the highest of ideals to trick and steal.

In terms of a pure rational analysis there is no theft or fraud. Alice sends money to Bob, because she believes she will get something in return. So these are just risk factors. ICO's are an early, simple form of capital investment structures for blockchains. Instead of paying for all developing costs upfront, a project can raise funds (secured via escrow hopefully) and then recoup these with the float of a currency. Potentially there are other ways to pay for developer costs. Its a much better model than what Bitcoin has at the moment (sponsoring through the backdoor).

Well at best maybe you have stupid scams probably where the devs fooled themselves as well  Grin

I mean it is really doubtful whether any startup should do funding this way. it is extremely risky for your continuity even if you have good intentions. if you want something for everyone then make it open, that shouldnt need a corp. and even if you do that you might find funds you need in different ways
member
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July 02, 2016, 04:21:02 PM
#41
What we have right now are a lot of scum like beings utilizing a technology built with the highest of ideals to trick and steal.

In terms of a pure rational analysis there is no theft or fraud. Alice sends money to Bob, because she believes she will get something in return. So these are just risk factors. ICO's are an early, simple form of capital investment structures for blockchains. Instead of paying for all developing costs upfront, a project can raise funds (secured via escrow hopefully) and then recoup these with the float of a currency. Potentially there are other ways to pay for developer costs. Its a much better model than what Bitcoin has at the moment (sponsoring through the backdoor).
sr. member
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July 02, 2016, 03:28:22 AM
#40
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
July 02, 2016, 01:26:21 AM
#39
I'll check it out.. and yea that was the site.

We ALL know there is a LOT of code out there that is built up into HUGE systems.. for free.
If you can't *afford* to code then leave it to someone who can.

I have written plenty last couple decades and never charged a cent or taken donations
Except in 1 scenario..
I was working on an optimized Quark Coin miner
And i charged users a min donation fee of what ever coins where on Cryptsy to get it.
But we're talking a conversion of what ever shit-coins valued at $10 per person basically.
Not 250k or a million $$$

Why ?
I still have my PM's from Mullick saying i was banned from posting links to my miner (for a day or two)
on the Cryptsy chat-box.. apparently someone told them i was posting a miner with a virus.
All miners get flagged by VirusTotal etc though LOL

I was posting new build versions freely on Cryptsy chat and one guy came back and flipped out
all pissed off because he installed the miner on a pile of servers (a botnet of some type)
He got mad because i broke the code so it was not mining properly..
Which caused a bunch of us to loose mining earnings for about a day or so.
I told him that is why i did not want to post any links anywhere..
BECAUSE IT WAS A BETA TEST !
As i said Nooooon stop.

I also told them all i kept getting bitched at when i mentioned it briefly or my main tester guy
gave me feedback on chat briefly.. sometimes i made the miner worse and others a bit better.
It was more about some experimentation than anything.

SO..
When i got the link ban and that botnet guy was mad at me etc
I said well fuck this i will tack on some code i wrote..

I went and coded in a protection system so you needed a Serial / key to run it (with beta options available)
Or.. with no key it would run as the stable version i made which worked great with all features like colors in console etc
So.. i was charging for the entry to be a beta tester mainly. (to enable extra experimental mode)
It would still run great with out paying a cent !
Yet i was swiftly told here on the forum i was running a cheating miner and charging money for it LOL
When another guy was doing that here and his did not run with out paying at all !
(his was GPU and mine was CPU)

I tried to stress i had a dedicated buddy doing testing for me and providing feedback
and he was the only one doing that.. everyone else just wanted more coins
and gave me no feedback on it (which was the whole entire point i was sharing my work)

My tester guy had a few CPU's i did not have to help test with etc
So my charging money for code once in all of my time in crypto was
simply my way of keeping the user count down so i did not get flooded with request etc.
And to hopefully get testers that would give me feedback.
Which caused issues with testing results from more users.
Then i had guys sending me piles of emails saying they were all getting different results etc
When they would not follow the directions i gave them to record a proper benchmark.
(I had coded in a variety of benchmark modes & options)

I also should point out i had spent a lot of time telling noobs what a miner is and how to use it..
When all i wanted to do was write fucking code !
Once i let the cat of the bag it snow balled into a pain in the ass.
Eventually in time interest waned on all our parts and we all moved on..
/The End

I am probably the only guy who ever did that  Shocked

I was surprised that no cracker did not load it in OllyDBG patch 1 jump and share it publicly..
Would have been easy.. i could have cracked it in under 60 seconds guaranteed  Cheesy

PS:
@OP
I think you are a lot like Shelby Wink
Coincidentally the same long comments and "Ideological" views on ICO's etc
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July 02, 2016, 12:20:26 AM
#38
You are upsetting me  Cry

It is a better way of mining though ease of access is higher.

Scenario 1):
A user can go to Bitcointalk and download the Litecoin wallet and run it.. getting coins.

Scenario 2):
A user can go the local bank branch and withdraw $100 then stand there wondering how to get it onto Poloniex to buy some ICO tokens then have to figure out how to get Bitcoin then figure out that there *ARE* exchanges and that they *NEED* to sign up at one and hand over their picture-id (as requested) in order to transfer Bitcoin over there so they can then play the markets with greedy wolves and deceitful hyped / spammy dishonest chatbox users where they can then buy ICO scheme tokens.

Only question after scenario 2 is WHY would the public want to do that and then WHAT would they even do with them once they withdraw them from Poloniex and get their picture ID info back


Can i ask.. why are you lying ? Financial agenda ?

PS:
Nice account name  Cheesy

I've been following you for a while. Very ideological posts Smiley
I've written a counter-argument in regards to why ICO's could be good in another thread. Please do take a look.
I do not intend to bash upon any economic system but solely point out the good and the bad that is on-going in the community at the moment.

Also, is this the rockbox you were talking of ?
http://www.rockbox.org
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
July 02, 2016, 12:13:43 AM
#37
You are upsetting me  Cry

It is a better way of mining though ease of access is higher.

Scenario 1):
A user can go to Bitcointalk and download the Litecoin wallet and run it.. getting coins.

Scenario 2):
A user can go to their local bank branch and withdraw $100 then stand there wondering how to get it onto Poloniex to buy some ICO tokens then have to figure out how to get Bitcoin then figure out that there *ARE* exchanges and that they *NEED* to sign up at one and hand over their picture-id (as requested) in order to transfer Bitcoin over there so they can then play the markets with greedy wolves and deceitful hyped / spammy dishonest chatbox users where they can then buy ICO scheme tokens.

Only question after scenario 2 is WHY would the public want to do that and then WHAT would they even do with them once they withdraw them from Poloniex and get their picture ID info back


Can i ask.. why are you lying ? Financial agenda ?

PS:
Nice account name  Cheesy
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
July 02, 2016, 12:02:47 AM
#36
...top notch software development requires funding. We all need money to live.

Top notch software development requires funding
^^^
Did anyone actually answer this, or are you all just enjoying a one-sided circle-jerk?
How do great new projects get funded if the innovators are not allowed to be paid?

Do you realize that history is FULL of quality free code ?
Requires payment ? Nope.. wrong.

Want an example ?
Google "Rockbox Firmware" and check out some of the contributed content that is CC'd

Need a million dollars to make OPEN SOURCE FREE CODE ON GITHUB ?
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
AHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

Now i turn to your other point..

Innovation ? Uhh where ?
Do you know what innovation means ?

Show me one single innovation over Bitcoin.
You can't
I have said this 100 times and no one ever has.

I do enjoy a one-sided circle-jerk  Grin  Cool

innovation.. ahahah that was funny !
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July 01, 2016, 10:16:26 PM
#35
...top notch software development requires funding. We all need money to live.

Top notch software development requires funding
^^^
Did anyone actually answer this, or are you all just enjoying a one-sided circle-jerk?
How do great new projects get funded if the innovators are not allowed to be paid?

Hey

I apologize for not responding to this earlier. Skipped my mind (although I don't see where it is posted).

Yes, innovators need to be paid for the work they do and in that sense, ICO's are indeed a powerful medium of capital mobility.
However,

1. How do you validate these "innovators" ?
2. How do you ensure they continue working post fund-raising (multi-sigs are a possibility, but its rarely used)
3. On what pay-scale are they going to be rewarded ? (Real start-up CEO's avoid salaries to hold company share / liquidate shares for personal expenses )
4. How is their work going to be tracked ? (Yes, Github is one of the possibilities)
5. How are their quality standards tracked ?


Perhaps a better way to put this thread across would have been " ICO's need fixing"
In their current form, they have a lot of flaws and that is perfectly fine. We started at barter and now we are at decentralized global currency.
Systems and financial models evolve over time. However, it is important we detect their flaws, acknowledge them and work towards fixing it.

Thank you for your interest in the thread.

Thanks for your quality response:
1. How do you validate these "innovators" ?
In a free market, investors in profitable companies get rewarded and "suckers" lose their money.

2 - 5) Are we talking about "real-world" companies, 'token-based' crypto 2.0-crap, or truly nasty copy/paste coins?
Seriously, this "Brave New World" needs a way to reward quality founders without automatically calling them a scam... 
That is my only point, thanks.

1. In a free market, doesn't the capitalist also have the right to verify the validity of the human resource he's investing into.
I see your POV though - basically, those who invest into the right people and go the extra length of seeing who's worth it get rewarded.

2. I concur with your point there. I think I need to explain why ICO's can be a force for good. I'll follow up this post with a new thread in a bit from now that talks about the good of ICO's
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
July 01, 2016, 09:34:32 PM
#34
...top notch software development requires funding. We all need money to live.

Top notch software development requires funding
^^^
Did anyone actually answer this, or are you all just enjoying a one-sided circle-jerk?
How do great new projects get funded if the innovators are not allowed to be paid?

Hey

I apologize for not responding to this earlier. Skipped my mind (although I don't see where it is posted).

Yes, innovators need to be paid for the work they do and in that sense, ICO's are indeed a powerful medium of capital mobility.
However,

1. How do you validate these "innovators" ?
2. How do you ensure they continue working post fund-raising (multi-sigs are a possibility, but its rarely used)
3. On what pay-scale are they going to be rewarded ? (Real start-up CEO's avoid salaries to hold company share / liquidate shares for personal expenses )
4. How is their work going to be tracked ? (Yes, Github is one of the possibilities)
5. How are their quality standards tracked ?


Perhaps a better way to put this thread across would have been " ICO's need fixing"
In their current form, they have a lot of flaws and that is perfectly fine. We started at barter and now we are at decentralized global currency.
Systems and financial models evolve over time. However, it is important we detect their flaws, acknowledge them and work towards fixing it.

Thank you for your interest in the thread.

Thanks for your quality response:
1. How do you validate these "innovators" ?
In a free market, investors in profitable companies get rewarded and "suckers" lose their money.

2 - 5) Are we talking about "real-world" companies, 'token-based' crypto 2.0-crap, or truly nasty copy/paste coins?
Seriously, this "Brave New World" needs a way to reward quality founders without automatically calling them a scam... 
That is my only point, thanks.
full member
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July 01, 2016, 09:16:27 PM
#33
...top notch software development requires funding. We all need money to live.

Top notch software development requires funding
^^^
Did anyone actually answer this, or are you all just enjoying a one-sided circle-jerk?
How do great new projects get funded if the innovators are not allowed to be paid?

Hey

I apologize for not responding to this earlier. Skipped my mind (although I don't see where it is posted).

Yes, innovators need to be paid for the work they do and in that sense, ICO's are indeed a powerful medium of capital mobility.
However,

1. How do you validate these "innovators" ?
2. How do you ensure they continue working post fund-raising (multi-sigs are a possibility, but its rarely used)
3. On what pay-scale are they going to be rewarded ? (Real start-up CEO's avoid salaries to hold company share / liquidate shares for personal expenses )
4. How is their work going to be tracked ? (Yes, Github is one of the possibilities)
5. How are their quality standards tracked ?


Perhaps a better way to put this thread across would have been " ICO's need fixing"
In their current form, they have a lot of flaws and that is perfectly fine. We started at barter and now we are at decentralized global currency.
Systems and financial models evolve over time. However, it is important we detect their flaws, acknowledge them and work towards fixing it.

Thank you for your interest in the thread.
hero member
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July 01, 2016, 09:09:16 PM
#32
You are upsetting me  Cry

It is a better way of mining though ease of access is higher.
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