Topic: Fact based on topic relevant information should not be silenced in META (Read 732 times)

Thanks for your support. I agree with you.

I mean I provide observable fact that these people lie and abuse the trust system and people are too scared to even comment and flat out refuse to even look at the evidence.

Still you will see many will rise up under such corrupt and broken systems of control. In the end you will have the board completely revolt against their double standards, lies and abuse. I am just providing facts and observable events to support free speech and fair treatment of all members. Anyone fighting this is net negative and provably so.

where did tman vanish too? oh yeah I asked him to answer questions that would reveal his real motives for wanting on topic and relevant facts from being presented on his thread............like roaches they vanish when the truth spotlight is focused on them?

@cryptohunter


Its not worth it.
Theymos is acting blind.The people you are fighting took power over the board.
They drove away hundreds of great crypto people with their scrap and trying to increase their power for manipulation each day.
I got myself 2 friends who were legendary on this board but stopped posting because of these crap group.
Theymos shows no sign of action to do anything.
He basicly supports these stupid actions silently.
How many times have i saw how theymos was asked for intervention when these exect same people abused thie forum.
No reaction from him.
Its just not worth your time.The forum is already moving down and as long as theymos gives permission to it there is nothing we can change.
Its funny they show you some kind of forum rules but tag people who are not breaking them.
I also understand your pain as i saw many self moderated threads manipulating to scam people.

And for the known vulture yes this is my second account since i lost access to the email i had my first account registered with.

this proves you are scared of answering my questions.

why are you not answering them?

answer them now and stop diverting

Nothing about you scares me i pitty you, “ I PITTY THE FOOL”

Mr T MAN

Xxxx

Enjoy the incoming ban for breaking rule #26

Answer my questions first.

why are you afraid to answer?

Please explain to us all why you do not need to adhere to forum rules?

I don't accept your rules have any validity in meta. For the reasons above stated. Please try to understand that and stop asking the same question over and over.

Your interpretation of the rules is obviously broken if you think you can leave red trust for facts being presented about liars or relating to scams.


Why are you scared to answer my questions and why are you scared of facts and observable events which are on topic and relevant?

Make sure to answer or else you look to be diverting.

What happened to your statement that you would not engage with me again outside of rep. Can we trust anything you say?

Why are you ignoring the FACT that you broke the rules in my thread? Why oh why

I have finished posting the facts that I wished to post there. That is it.

If i wish to post additional facts and observable events I will do so.  

You can make any rules you like but sensible and reasonable moderation will take place when and if a mod decides to take it.

I can only see very negative implications for removal of facts and observable relevant and on topic posts here in meta hence why no self moderation is allowed.

ARE YOU TMAN AFRAID OF FACTS AND OBSERVABLE EVENTS ? WHY IS THAT?



Which facts and observable events are you scared of?

So you red trust for facts and observable events and now want to stop facts and observable events being posted when on topic and relevant.

Sorry that is not just unfair it is dangerous for the entire board.

Salty spittoon says he has banned people for posting on topic and relevant facts in meta. That sounds like enabling the proliferation of potentially false and misleading information. I would not expect he had thought about that before reaching for the ban hammer.

Imagine those persons posting net positive information and getting banned for the sake of net negative misleading and incorrect posters in a sub board that has implications for every single member.

Seems very strange to me. Hence why it is good to have a thread about it like this.

1. to understand the how the rule is enforced in meta
2. to understand the reasoning behind the enforcement.

sorry you just want to silence facts and observable events when red trusting people for presenting them does not work.

It's true, those are the facts.  Meta isn't exempt from having local rules, and that was confirmed by SaltySpitoon.  Therefore regardless of whether c-scunter thinks that's fair or not, those are the rules--which he keeps breaking.  TMAN, if I were you I would have somehow crowbarred that thread into the Reputation section where you can self-moderate it.  It wouldn't be that much of a stretch to have a discussion about yourself and the Russians there, and you could keep the trolls out.

Your behaviour is ludicrous, you ignoring the rules is ludicrously stupid, me referring to you being banned is fun. As you breaking my local rule is a FACT, breaking rules can lead to a ban - FACT, so if it’s not a perma ban, will you continue to break the rules? I notice you have stopped posting in my thread - are you now worried about the possibility of a ban?

Rule 26 should  have no bearing on meta board where facts and observable events are concerned..  You can not silence facts and observable events that are on  topic and relevant in this section it makes zero sense. It would only benefit trust abusers and other untrustworthy individuals not interested in finding the truth but rather to present their own agendas with no sensible analysis.

Let's see if you can back up the rest of your statement.

Stop begging for me to get banned you pathetic weasel. I know you are terrified of the facts and observable events that I present.

The only people that want to silence on topic and relevant facts are people like you. There are observable events and facts that I can and have presented that you are untrustworthy and a system abuser.

However this thread will not be derailed by this. This is to discuss rule 26 and its bearing on meta board.  I am quite sure that nobody will be prevented from posting on topic and relevant facts to any thread in meta. The very notion is completely ludicrous.

What happened ?? you said you would never engage me in meta again...  can't rely on anything you say can we... .seems untrustworthy to me  lol

Rule #26 - have you read it and understood it yet? your stupid ramblings add 0 value to the forum. I do wonder if itll be a perma ban or just a cool-down

on topic - if its only a 7 day ban, will you come back and continue to act in the same way?

Remind people here run away and hide from facts based observable events debated with someone that will not bow to their agenda and misleading nonsense.

Suchmoon here to post the first off topic post. Local rule 26 lol no offtopic posters like suchmoon allowed please.

Another person with very strange views including

"most" pre merit legends are spammers

It is idiotic and incorrect to believe that some of the  99.87% of the board can make some posts as good or better than some of posts made by the 0.13%  of this board. LOL what an opinion to have.

This type of person trying to enforce his views upon the board is ludicrous.

Anyway lets stay on topic.

At this time presentation of facts and observable events that are on topic are of course allowed here in meta. Preventing that presentation on thread would look shady at best. Ad hominem attacks and suggesting motivational influences do not  have any bearing on pure facts based presentation and observable events there in black and white.

You are actively enabling the proliferation of incorrect and misleading information by censoring facts and observable events that refute them. You may as well say I want people to only hear a motivated and engineered agenda and only accept the input of those that support that agenda. Totally ludicrous on meta.

For the Meta section, it's a valid point.

Let's compare, it's like saying the Parliament (Meta) is the place to talk and debate about our society, everyone can enter and everyone can raise his/her voice.
But once you're in the parliament and you want to give your opinion, people tell you to shut up.

This is not how you create a friendly environment.

Theymos were saying in a pm Bitcointalk doesn't need politicians,  it's true, but that's exactly what is going on

Page two of a grayed out thread so it seems like a good time to remind: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-boycott-of-replies-to-the-recent-extensive-trolling-by-cryptohunter-5088527

 
What is your opinion on the matter? excluding ad hominem based grounding which is invalid to my central point. The posting of facts and observable events are not altered by motivation so it is irrelevant to this discussion. Posts outside facts based and presentation of observable fact are not part of this thread. That would be for another thread.

Please don't misunderstand this as me having a debate with you, because neither of us have any say in the matter one way or the other. I just posted to tell you about the rules and why they apply. I don't care about your opinion. I'm not stating my opinion on the matter, I'm letting you know that you are breaking the rule #26 and why.

I couldn't care less if you disagree, decide to listen to me, or if you object. I posted to let you know and thats all.

I have read everything that you have posted. What would lead you to believe that I have not.

I am open for debate but ad hominem attacks are not sensible rebuttals. All posts should be judged on the merit of the content the poster identity should largely be irrelevant. Using something that is irrelevant to preclude factual relevant information is quite unsound.

Please read my post and answer each point. I will do the same for you. This is how a debate is supposed to proceed.

You aren't going to read anything I say anyway, so I'll just say Yes.