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Topic: [FACTS] Dash has the whole scene scared ! - page 2. (Read 4314 times)

legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
A lot of your comments lately look very pro dash.

I think in anti dash threads you should not contaminate them with defence based around xmr and eth. These are separate issues and do not justify other scams.

for example you had no doubts here of dash  being ultra scammy. Don't dout it now. This nonsense about intent is toks rebuttal you you back then and you didn't stand for that obvious nonsense then why bring that argument you refuted back then up now.

wow that is pretty nasty and the only negative i have focused on before was that it's a clone of Quark with another algo tacked on to it.
..sad it just looks wore and worse all the time for this ultra scammy coin !

so you like seeing an ultra scam (not honestly admitted by the dashers at all)

rising to 300M mc?


why not just say now dash is an ultra scam?



why do I see you on every anti dash thread diverting to other scams?

You should be doing as you were in 2014 crushing all scams not assisting and excusing dash ultra scam because other scams exist.

I am not at all sure why you would be doing this.

If you have been paid off by dash then just keep their tokens or dump instantly like I hope you have done and come back to fighting all scams equally. There is no such bullshit like honest dashers admitting to their scam. They still say it was all an accident and so was slashing the minting.

You will lose all credibility.ability to call anything a scam if you continue on this path of dash promoting and refusal to brand it a scam. I mean you will not be able to criticise any other project out there if dash is not a scam to you.

any other project you call a scam will simply ask you if you consider dash a scam and when you will not admit that dash is a scam.....that's it they have you.  because if the deeds dash have pulled are no longer a scam to you then you will have a hard time showing any other project to be a scam.

I am nagging you because you are ruining your entire post history and credibility here. You need to be consistent and logical.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
@cryptohunter
You are a nag  Roll Eyes

Is there room to criticize Dash ? yes absolutely and their own supporters will tell you that.
I don't ever see the need to beat it to death because they DO NOT DENY IT !

..unlike Monero Tards.

Nor is that the topic here either.
But it is funny that it's usually the Monero guys launching attacks as hypocrites
when they are guilty of similar shit.
AND that their "defenders" here fail to see the centralization of Monero.
Simply comparing the tech alone and ignoring the puppet master who has been behind the scenes all along.
Yeah.. the bald guy who lives in a castle and drives a god damn fucking BENTLEY !



Amazing how he literally runs the coin and pays the top devs out of pocket then funds the coin every step of the way while they claim he is "not a part of the team" nor is his employee.
When who was the MEW treasurer ? None other than his employee.. David Latapie
And WHOM may i ask spent the money on the forum game topic here for as he called it a powerful adoption asset ?
Yup the bald millionaire.. (pictured above)
Want more ? I have watched that asshole strut around here as king shit for years so i have plenty more.

But he's a ghost when the Dash centralization criticism comes rolling in right on cue  Roll Eyes

DASH = $45.52 - http://coinmarketcap.com/

It's on a god damn rampage !

And look at the chart picture.. it's a gradual slope.



In other words the critics can't claim it happened over night.. this has been a long time coming.
And i think Ethereum is shitting and pumping their coin ASAP because they are jealous & threatened.
GOOD Fuck ETH !
Take them down Dash guys.. ETH is scammy trash and needs to be burned with fire !
legendary
Activity: 2100
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Shelby says.. "Ver"

So what will Ver tell us all to buy next ? Apparently he is the most powerful Altcoin pundit in crypto history  Cheesy

Then Qwizzie posts a huge list of reasons "Why"
And you go on to argue about them Shelby..
Whether you agree with them or not is not the point.. he was addressing "why".

I am not for or against Dash per say but you fell on your face with this one.
AND your inherent dislike for Dash is rather obvious (you are reaching here)

Your other report topic for example lambasted Dash and gave Monero an almost perfect score.
You love to forget about King Risto's shenanigans.
If he had not poured money it into it non stop running the coin Monero would not be here today.
It is literally his coin so put that on your score charts.
Can you say centralization ?

This "MEW" topic should make it painfully obvious.... AGAIN
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12619507

SPOETNIK you are seemingly protecting dash again???

Do you not believe dash is a scam now?

Yes or NO is dash a scam?
sr. member
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I'm glad someone that is in the know with NEM replied to you and proved your assumption false.

No one refuted me.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Look over the NEM advancements and how they are working with several tech bureaus and even a municipal community in Belgium is trying to experiment with the blockchain Mijin/NEM.

Let's not be salty now because we see a lot of people gaining from these unprecedented rises in the alt world.

By your logic, Bitcoin has not made it yet which means... see what I did there.

I will be composing a technical analysis on NEM's PoI shortly and you are not going to be happy.

Those "accomplishments" for NEM are just more fluff and no actual adoption.

Bitcoin adoption is still tiny.

Here's your quote from the thread you created:

I had also written else where:

The reputation/rank aspect is just proof-of-stake in transactions. It has the same properties of proof-of-stake wherein your stake determines how much rank you realistically have (and not just lose it all to transaction fees).

Also since it requires the transaction graph, then it is incompatible with privacy and anonymity.

I don't understand why everyone is so excited about NEM. It is just a rehash of PoS. Where is the innovation?


So in conclusion it seems like you have no idea why NEM is so popular and have tried to criticize it with unfounded assumptions.

Nothing wrong with criticism, I'm glad someone that is in the know with NEM replied to you and proved your assumption false. It's good that this happens just so these projects don't go unquestioned.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
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2. To establish to the community that I want to be involved in an honest project focused on real adoption, real technical accomplishments, and no shenanigans. And I don't want to work for free. So Monero lost my desire to contribute to their project because they aren't serious about adoption, they don't reward someone like me enough (I don't have enough capital to buy XMR as a motivation to develop on it), and I don't like the attitude of some in the Monero community. Other than that Monero seems like a mostly honest project, good decentralization (except PoW always centralizes over time) with some real technical advance (but I think their advances are not well prioritized and I think I can do better). From Monero's stance, I am a Prima donna. From my stance, Monero's BDFL is not a good enough leader to lead me.

...

(In short, I am trying to find my tribe within our ecosystem)

That is a fair and perfectly reasonable position.
legendary
Activity: 2548
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legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
Here are some quotes of a guy that once had some dignity ... i kinda miss that guy.

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Stop with the arbitrary ethics. No one can define scam unambiguously. This is not church. Are you a Libertarian who believes people can be responsible for their own decisions or do you
advocate a NannyState here in altcoin land? It will cut down on a lot of needless and useless verbal diarrhoea if we stick to discussions about technology, marketing, speculation and stop
trying to win by attacking each other with mud slinging.

Everyone should be free to state their opinion, but incessantly battering our opinion on others is oppressive and leads to a lot of useless arguing.
Also when someone doesn't walk their own talk, they should probably not be surprised if they suffer a credibility crisis.

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Getting "ripped off" is ambiguous as it is all part of the game. Was I ripped off when I chose to sell localbitcoins via paypal and lost $600? I think so. But I was stupid enough to not think that someone could be using a stolen Paypal account. It was a good lesson for me to learn. I charged it to experience.
We don't need a NannyState. We are all adults and can decide for ourselves what risks we want to take.
I have no problem with you pointing out that Dash had an instamine and giving your reasons why you think that will make the technology (masternode co-option), marketing, adoption, and business model less successful.
But it doesn't help if you/we think that by stopping what we perceive to be n00bs from buying Dash, by constantly yelling "scam", because we are not omniscient. And that is not production. That is just a logjam of destroying degrees-of-freedom. And we are not omniscient as evidenced by our wrong perception of the income potential in altcoins and of Bitshares' potential. Thus it is harmful to ourselves and others when we act as if we are.
You and I both should be introducing more inspiring ideas and projects than attacking other projects. It is very annoying.

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And in fact, I might become quite a thorn to those who continue to berate others about Right and Wrong, as if God appointed you to do that.
In short, those enforcers on this forum make me want to puke. Any one doing censorship (other than self-moderated threads for their own official coin thread), bullying by politik, or any other holier than thou crap will be on my personal shit (do not like) list (which basically means nothing so no big deal).
In other words, I am urging us all to stop the nonsense political control game. Let it run wild and free. Don't be afraid to not be in control. Don't be afraid. Just let nature be.

Good advice iamnotback, don't be afraid to not be in control....




ha so you don't like people who berate others for wrong? in other words don't mention our captive instamine scam. I see.

I mean the entire post you just made is like saying please stop mentioning our scam.

Dash - there is no right or wrong.  Tell everyone its a fair launch then do everything in your power to make it unfair. Once you pull that off dream up new ways of leveraging your unfair advantage to the max. After that solidify that advantage.

I see.

Yep everyone else please stop pointing out the facts that dash is a proven scam because qwizzie will say you have no dignity.




sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
Here are some quotes of a guy that once had some dignity ... i kinda miss that guy.

Quote
Stop with the arbitrary ethics. No one can define scam unambiguously. This is not church. Are you a Libertarian who believes people can be responsible for their own decisions or do you
advocate a NannyState here in altcoin land? It will cut down on a lot of needless and useless verbal diarrhoea if we stick to discussions about technology, marketing, speculation and stop
trying to win by attacking each other with mud slinging.

Everyone should be free to state their opinion, but incessantly battering our opinion on others is oppressive and leads to a lot of useless arguing.
Also when someone doesn't walk their own talk, they should probably not be surprised if they suffer a credibility crisis.

Quote
Getting "ripped off" is ambiguous as it is all part of the game. Was I ripped off when I chose to sell localbitcoins via paypal and lost $600? I think so. But I was stupid enough to not think that someone could be using a stolen Paypal account. It was a good lesson for me to learn. I charged it to experience.
We don't need a NannyState. We are all adults and can decide for ourselves what risks we want to take.
I have no problem with you pointing out that Dash had an instamine and giving your reasons why you think that will make the technology (masternode co-option), marketing, adoption, and business model less successful.
But it doesn't help if you/we think that by stopping what we perceive to be n00bs from buying Dash, by constantly yelling "scam", because we are not omniscient. And that is not production. That is just a logjam of destroying degrees-of-freedom. And we are not omniscient as evidenced by our wrong perception of the income potential in altcoins and of Bitshares' potential. Thus it is harmful to ourselves and others when we act as if we are.
You and I both should be introducing more inspiring ideas and projects than attacking other projects. It is very annoying.

Quote
And in fact, I might become quite a thorn to those who continue to berate others about Right and Wrong, as if God appointed you to do that.
In short, those enforcers on this forum make me want to puke. Any one doing censorship (other than self-moderated threads for their own official coin thread), bullying by politik, or any other holier than thou crap will be on my personal shit (do not like) list (which basically means nothing so no big deal).
In other words, I am urging us all to stop the nonsense political control game. Let it run wild and free. Don't be afraid to not be in control. Don't be afraid. Just let nature be.

Good advice iamnotback, don't be afraid to not be in control....

I have stated over the past days that everyone will reap what they sow.

I am merely asking speculators whether they have any desire to invest in projects which are obviously more honest and decentralized? Will anyone even care or be able to discern the difference.

I can't possibly tell everyone what to do here. You know damn well that if I stop posting here for 24 hours, then everything I wrote will be buried and everyone will go right back to their former habits and patterns.

My posting here right now is to serve two purposes:

1. To make sure I understand correctly our ecosystem and markets. I want to make sure there is a market for producing an honest project. I want to make sure all the effort I need to put forth will be worth trying. If I have to create a manipulated money supply and exchange markets in order to succeed, then I don't want to do it. I was actually really depressed last year when I was thinking maybe it is necessary to manipulate else some others will come in and take control (i.e. buy it up cheap after it has wallowed at a low price for a long time). But I now think the key is maintaining adoption growth, to keep the demand up.

2. To establish to the community that I want to be involved in an honest project focused on real adoption, real technical accomplishments, and no shenanigans. And I don't want to work for free. So Monero lost my desire to contribute to their project because they aren't serious about adoption, they don't reward someone like me enough (I don't have enough capital to buy XMR as a motivation to develop on it), and I don't like the attitude of some in the Monero community. Other than that Monero seems like a mostly honest project, good decentralization (except PoW always centralizes over time) with some real technical advance (but I think their advances are not well prioritized and I think I can do better). From Monero's stance, I am a Prima donna. From my stance, Monero's BDFL is not a good enough leader to lead me.

@qwizzie if you are willing to call a truce (admitting that Dash doesn't meet my goals for a project I want to be affiliated with), then I am ready to leave the forum to go become a programmer again. Deal?

(In short, I am trying to find my tribe within our ecosystem)
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
I will be composing a technical analysis on NEM's PoI shortly and you are not going to be happy.

Here it is:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18029512
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245
Here are some quotes of a guy that once had some dignity ... i kinda miss that guy.

Quote
Stop with the arbitrary ethics. No one can define scam unambiguously. This is not church. Are you a Libertarian who believes people can be responsible for their own decisions or do you
advocate a NannyState here in altcoin land? It will cut down on a lot of needless and useless verbal diarrhoea if we stick to discussions about technology, marketing, speculation and stop
trying to win by attacking each other with mud slinging.

Everyone should be free to state their opinion, but incessantly battering our opinion on others is oppressive and leads to a lot of useless arguing.
Also when someone doesn't walk their own talk, they should probably not be surprised if they suffer a credibility crisis.

Quote
Getting "ripped off" is ambiguous as it is all part of the game. Was I ripped off when I chose to sell localbitcoins via paypal and lost $600? I think so. But I was stupid enough to not think that someone could be using a stolen Paypal account. It was a good lesson for me to learn. I charged it to experience.
We don't need a NannyState. We are all adults and can decide for ourselves what risks we want to take.
I have no problem with you pointing out that Dash had an instamine and giving your reasons why you think that will make the technology (masternode co-option), marketing, adoption, and business model less successful.
But it doesn't help if you/we think that by stopping what we perceive to be n00bs from buying Dash, by constantly yelling "scam", because we are not omniscient. And that is not production. That is just a logjam of destroying degrees-of-freedom. And we are not omniscient as evidenced by our wrong perception of the income potential in altcoins and of Bitshares' potential. Thus it is harmful to ourselves and others when we act as if we are.
You and I both should be introducing more inspiring ideas and projects than attacking other projects. It is very annoying.

Quote
And in fact, I might become quite a thorn to those who continue to berate others about Right and Wrong, as if God appointed you to do that.
In short, those enforcers on this forum make me want to puke. Any one doing censorship (other than self-moderated threads for their own official coin thread), bullying by politik, or any other holier than thou crap will be on my personal shit (do not like) list (which basically means nothing so no big deal).
In other words, I am urging us all to stop the nonsense political control game. Let it run wild and free. Don't be afraid to not be in control. Don't be afraid. Just let nature be.

Good advice iamnotback, don't be afraid to not be in control....


sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
Look over the NEM advancements and how they are working with several tech bureaus and even a municipal community in Belgium is trying to experiment with the blockchain Mijin/NEM.

Let's not be salty now because we see a lot of people gaining from these unprecedented rises in the alt world.

By your logic, Bitcoin has not made it yet which means... see what I did there.

I will be composing a technical analysis on NEM's PoI shortly and you are not going to be happy.

Those "accomplishments" for NEM are just more fluff and no actual adoption.

Bitcoin adoption is still tiny.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 1
It could very well be a pretender.

Aren't they all at this point? (all the crypto-coins)

We're just at beginning folks.

We are at the Pong and PacMan stage.

Not all, NEM so far has surpassed expectations and seems everyone so far agrees looks like the most legit project in the alt scene.

DASH, well good for those who got in early. We've all seen these patterns before, heavy manipulation because for sure DASH does not have any uses that I have witnessed.

I think you missed his point. You have to fake it 'til you make it, and no one's made it yet. Which means...

Look over the NEM advancements and how they are working with several tech bureaus and even a municipal community in Belgium is trying to experiment with the blockchain Mijin/NEM.

Let's not be salty now because we see a lot of people gaining from these unprecedented rises in the alt world.

By your logic, Bitcoin has not made it yet which means... see what I did there.

I see what you did there, you agreed with me lol. Bitcoin is pretending too. You know what isn't pretending? USD  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1050
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It could very well be a pretender.

Aren't they all at this point? (all the crypto-coins)

We're just at beginning folks.

We are at the Pong and PacMan stage.

Not all, NEM so far has surpassed expectations and seems everyone so far agrees looks like the most legit project in the alt scene.

DASH, well good for those who got in early. We've all seen these patterns before, heavy manipulation because for sure DASH does not have any uses that I have witnessed.

I think you missed his point. You have to fake it 'til you make it, and no one's made it yet. Which means...

Look over the NEM advancements and how they are working with several tech bureaus and even a municipal community in Belgium is trying to experiment with the blockchain Mijin/NEM.

Let's not be salty now because we see a lot of people gaining from these unprecedented rises in the alt world.

By your logic, Bitcoin has not made it yet which means... see what I did there.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
Dash as just been to some conference in Mexico (Anarchapulco) which I am sure isnt hurting the price.

Oh that must be that Anarchist Network host Jeff Berwick who earned $10,000 per blog post on Steem.
member
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Dash as just been to some conference in Mexico (Anarchapulco) which I am sure isnt hurting the price.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 1
It could very well be a pretender.

Aren't they all at this point? (all the crypto-coins)

We're just at beginning folks.

We are at the Pong and PacMan stage.

Not all, NEM so far has surpassed expectations and seems everyone so far agrees looks like the most legit project in the alt scene.

DASH, well good for those who got in early. We've all seen these patterns before, heavy manipulation because for sure DASH does not have any uses that I have witnessed.

I think you missed his point. You have to fake it 'til you make it, and no one's made it yet. Which means...
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
It could very well be a pretender.

Aren't they all at this point? (all the crypto-coins)

We're just at beginning folks.

We are at the Pong and PacMan stage.

Not all, NEM so far has surpassed expectations and seems everyone so far agrees looks like the most legit project in the alt scene.

DASH, well good for those who got in early. We've all seen these patterns before, heavy manipulation because for sure DASH does not have any uses that I have witnessed.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 265
It could very well be a pretender.

Aren't they all at this point? (all the crypto-coins)

We're just at beginning folks.

We are at the Pong and PacMan stage.

newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 1
Dash is getting it's 15 minutes of fame. Not that I'd be surprised if that 15 minutes turned out to be much longer. Let's wait and see how it's doing a year from now, it hasn't quite made it yet. It could very well be a pretender.
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