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hero member
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October 09, 2019, 07:02:38 AM
#11
Hello,

I am creating this topic to understand is it possible to achieve the fair value while trading (crypto, gold, derivatives...)? I am conducting a research at the moment, because its crazy how market can go up and down, and (after all) there are some trading strategies named 'The Fair Value Trading Strategy' like this one: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fair-value-trading-strategy-explained-153843774.html and definition from Zacks (https://finance.zacks.com/difference-between-premarket-futures-fair-value-10349.html) ''fair value is the futures rate before market opening adjusted for purchasing shares at the opening.''

So, my question is - do you know some platform or solution which can assist us to find out when the ''fair-value'' trading moment is? Or, does anyone has some tip? Advise needed. Thanks!

Fair value is a concept that seems really good on paper to form trading signals, but in reality, probably doesn't even exist.

After all, at any given moment, the fair value is really just the market value of an asset. The demand and supply come together to form the market value, and that should be the market's equilibrium and that given moment.

I'd say just look at sentiment for starters, if you want to find whether a coin is overvalued or undervalued. If sentiment is bullish and people are FOMOing, then the coin is likely to be extremely overvalued, and vice versa. Finding "fair value" requires a ton of modelling that I don't think casual traders are simply up for.
newbie
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October 09, 2019, 03:42:21 AM
#10
There are not such sites Exist as far as I know. If there are they probably not that correct. In Crypto things like Fair Value doesn't Work. Because the market is not regulated so the manipulation is at their best. There is no away a project who Raised over $80M in their token sale lost value of 98% it's because they sold everything they had and did not deliver anything they promised. 

I just read this article and found very interesting knowledge ''Guide to Determining Fair Market Value (FMV) for Cryptocurrency Assets''

Full read here - https://cryptforensic.com/2019/01/10/guide-to-determining-fair-market-value-fmv-for-cryptocurrency-assets/

Nice. This is valuable! But I am interested in all kinds of popular assets classes such as Currencies, Stocks, Commodities, Index, and (of course) Cryptocurrencies. But not only crypto. I am looking for a solution where I can invest with crypto in other financial asset. I was reading that now, with smart contacts, trust and probability has much better scores, since all transactions are visible. Also, If it's possible to buy an option with crypto, through smart contract...if anyone know any option/heard about solution - please, suggest
legendary
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October 08, 2019, 11:37:01 AM
#9

Nothing is fair here in crypto. You can see the price of a coin go up like there is a technology behind it superior than the rest but not an hour later, you realize its just a pump and then you of course hurry to dump but an hour is just too long and you miss the chance. No strategy can stand to that kind of event.  You will be left thinking how is the fair value of a coin but the value of it will not be back just when you pray. Scary of course, when the market is very volatile.

hero member
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October 08, 2019, 11:19:20 AM
#8
There are not such sites Exist as far as I know. If there are they probably not that correct. In Crypto things like Fair Value doesn't Work. Because the market is not regulated so the manipulation is at their best. There is no away a project who Raised over $80M in their token sale lost value of 98% it's because they sold everything they had and did not deliver anything they promised. 

I just read this article and found very interesting knowledge ''Guide to Determining Fair Market Value (FMV) for Cryptocurrency Assets''

Full read here - https://cryptforensic.com/2019/01/10/guide-to-determining-fair-market-value-fmv-for-cryptocurrency-assets/
full member
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homt.net
October 08, 2019, 11:13:36 AM
#7
Yeah, I have heard about this many times that BTC price goes back to levels where are gaps on CME futures. Nobody knows why but in 90% this happened.
newbie
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October 08, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
#6
this strategy with all its definitions and any other trading strategy that you can find out there are all defined for a market that has little to no manipulation in it. markets such as stocks market, gold market,... which even though have manipulation but the power of it is minimal.
but when a market (like the altcoin market) is dominated by manipulation and is completely unpredictable no strategy could work in it no matter the type of it.

True Sad Thats what scares me. In those situations only experience helps...or, like the member above posted, AI Smiley I do believe AI algorithms will help us, at least, not to have tension or market manipulation
sr. member
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October 08, 2019, 09:52:01 AM
#5
Oh man, it's hard to say how much cryptocurrency has fair value. Each stage of time has its own price, today it is 10K dollars, and tomorrow more people will start using bitcoin 2 times and the price will be approximately 2 times higher.
newbie
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October 08, 2019, 09:49:12 AM
#4
Hello there!

‘Fair Value’ is the sale price that is agreed upon by a willing buyer and an equally keen seller in an agreement. Sometimes the market determines fair value of an investment, other times; fair value represents a company’s assets and liabilities when a subsidiary company’s financial statements are consolidated by its parent company. Our Quantitative Analyst, Donatas Vadopalas, isn’t really into either. Instead, he and his team chose to perfect true fair value on their cutting edge platform Level01, the World’s First Peer-to-Peer Exchange for Derivative Contracts.

“In the derivatives markets no-arbitrage principles often dictate where the fair value or, in other words, pricing should be. Market fragmentation between retail investors and institutional investors often puts retail investors at odds against their brokers as their ability to trade at (or close to) no-arbitrage prices is limited.” explains Vadopalas.

Our system architects and engineers have achieved ‘Fair Value’ by harnessing artificial intelligence onto the platform. We invite you to read more about the solution, our FairSense AI and how we can support you to perfect true fair value, here: https://level01.io/2018/11/13/how-can-artificial-intelligence-be-harnessed-to-achieve-fair-value-on-a-derivatives-exchange/

Of course, for direct communication you can always DM us here, or in our community group (https://t.me/level01ico), 24/7.

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Wow, will definitely check, thank you very much. Happy to hear there's someone working on this, and makes things easier for us, new new traders Smiley Do you have platform?
hero member
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October 08, 2019, 07:59:29 AM
#3
this strategy with all its definitions and any other trading strategy that you can find out there are all defined for a market that has little to no manipulation in it. markets such as stocks market, gold market,... which even though have manipulation but the power of it is minimal.
but when a market (like the altcoin market) is dominated by manipulation and is completely unpredictable no strategy could work in it no matter the type of it.
newbie
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October 08, 2019, 04:11:24 AM
#2
Hello there!

‘Fair Value’ is the sale price that is agreed upon by a willing buyer and an equally keen seller in an agreement. Sometimes the market determines fair value of an investment, other times; fair value represents a company’s assets and liabilities when a subsidiary company’s financial statements are consolidated by its parent company. Our Quantitative Analyst, Donatas Vadopalas, isn’t really into either. Instead, he and his team chose to perfect true fair value on their cutting edge platform Level01, the World’s First Peer-to-Peer Exchange for Derivative Contracts.

“In the derivatives markets no-arbitrage principles often dictate where the fair value or, in other words, pricing should be. Market fragmentation between retail investors and institutional investors often puts retail investors at odds against their brokers as their ability to trade at (or close to) no-arbitrage prices is limited.” explains Vadopalas.

Our system architects and engineers have achieved ‘Fair Value’ by harnessing artificial intelligence onto the platform. We invite you to read more about the solution, our FairSense AI and how we can support you to perfect true fair value, here: https://level01.io/2018/11/13/how-can-artificial-intelligence-be-harnessed-to-achieve-fair-value-on-a-derivatives-exchange/

Of course, for direct communication you can always DM us here, or in our community group (https://t.me/level01ico), 24/7.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 1
October 06, 2019, 01:15:09 PM
#1
Hello,

I am creating this topic to understand is it possible to achieve the fair value while trading (crypto, gold, derivatives...)? I am conducting a research at the moment, because its crazy how market can go up and down, and (after all) there are some trading strategies named 'The Fair Value Trading Strategy' like this one: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fair-value-trading-strategy-explained-153843774.html and definition from Zacks (https://finance.zacks.com/difference-between-premarket-futures-fair-value-10349.html) ''fair value is the futures rate before market opening adjusted for purchasing shares at the opening.''

So, my question is - do you know some platform or solution which can assist us to find out when the ''fair-value'' trading moment is? Or, does anyone has some tip? Advise needed. Thanks!
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