Topic: FairProof - the simplest provably fair bitcoin lottery (1.9 house fee) (Read 6583 times)

How are you guys going with your bitcoin lottery? 1.9% house edge seems very high in the Bitcoin Gaming world...

So, what can you say about this issue?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-not-play-at-fairproof-43btc-locked-in-account-for-over-a-week-cant-cashout-819254

The last time I played at fairproof.com (I played a total of 3 or 4 times) I also had a problem cashing out.

I wrote to the support and was able to withdraw my money.

sting2582000, have you got any proof you've been scammed?

I myself own an online business and find it hard to communicate with users who throw unfounded accusations like this.

I sometimes come across cases when comptetitors will write bad stuff to spoil other companies' reputations this way. Hopefully this is not the case here.

I deposit 0.1 BTC to play and they said me fraud. Close your scam site

Please PM your permanent link and we'll study your case.
If everything was legit you will successfully withdraw your funds.

Next time don't hesitate to contact support firstly.

I have 0.12 BTC in my balance and I can not withdraw (minimum is 0.05) . I depoist 0.05 BTC and receive 0.05 BTC bonus, and then I bet total 36 * 0.05 ( for withdraw bonus ) and I can not withdraw. It said invalid data

BIg scam site, banned him please

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Prove it, please!

Scam site, don't play with them. fairproof.com scam, big scam, why don't ban him?

Whats your feedback on this dice game?

I'm pretty sure that recent bets and top wins are fake!

Global rank at Alexa.com is 2,637,800 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/fairproof.com


For comparation Just Dice http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/just-dice.com is ranked 242,837

Rough estimate of traffic at Stathow is surely not enough to get that number of bets.


I found many complaints about this site:
Fairproof.com scam, stealing coins thread
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21zy43/fairproof_the_most_simplest_provably_fair_bitcoin/cgi0gi3 - The most provably fair scam there is!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21zy43/fairproof_the_most_simplest_provably_fair_bitcoin/cgi17ti - Looks like a good way to piss away money. The house edge is huge compared to real casinos (that also give free drinks and have pretty wait staff
Many users had problems with deposits and withdrawals (more info in this thread) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288229.20

Hello Fairproof and all it's users!
We've got review of your dice game on BitcoinSites.Org< you receive all 5 stars!
BitcoinSites.Org/FairProof

FairProof is a kind of bitcoin dice game. Website has no registration, user creates an account when visit website for the first time. Also he receives a unique url and bitcoin address to deposit funds for account. Account and url are connected with cookies, so if you'll switch off, delete cookies or use another browser, the system identifies you as a new user and provides new account with new url and new address to deposit bitcoins. Everything is described in terms of use.
 
We had multiple tests and about 50-300 users per day and the system shown excellent results. There are no issues except jberman73's.
 
According to logs and investigation of this issue, jberman73 created 2 different accounts, deposited the first one, but has url and related cookies for the second. It could caused by using another browser, or deleting cookies. The firs account contains the same amount of bitcoins, as he transferred.
 
In turn, jberman denies everything and trying to blackmail, post scam messages on forums,  send scam abuse to Hetzner - our web hoster. Hetzner has agreed to our arguments and didn't take any measures.   
 
As you can see, it's a user's issue and his fault that he transferred bitcoins to the wrong address or lost a url. We cannot divulge account and url that contains bitcoins to anyone, it's a matter of security. If the user will restore url, funds he deposited will wait for him. You can check the mentioned bitcoins wasn't spent.
 
We have unwavering position: we do not disclose user data.

As soon as Moderate called you out the money was moved out of the address.  WTF??? 

I was referring to the OP not Moderate.  Moderate thanks you for your help in dealing with this. 

Scam is not a glitch, it is a feature embedded in this kind of operator.

Anyone should've suspected of the so claimed "Have a look at top 5 big lucks for last 24 hours", do you have any doubt those are completely fake ?

So you are not going to work with me to resolve this issue?  I guess the lesson here is that that if there is a glitch with FairProof.com you will not work with the depositor to help resolve the issue.  

You can't be that incompetent... if the guy made a deposit there is a trivial way to check he owns the address used, and why wouldn't that be enough proof for you to send his coins back ? I really hope I don't need to explain how to do that, because otherwise you shouldn't be touching bitcoin services.

I am well versed in cookies.  I did not remove the cookies from my browser.  Would you have a problem returning the BTC to the address it was sent from?  This would solve the issue. 

We didn't take your money. As you can see, your bitcoins are unspent, you can check it on bitcoinchain: https://blockchain.info/tx/d741691e71379900864ec41e50f287905a17ed211ddee6008c59cc6c0d47eecc

It looks like you've deleted your cookies or log out. Fairproof is anonymous game, where you log in automatically if you have enabled cookies.
Unfortunately we can not give you link to the account with the same amount of bitcoins you have mentioned, because there is no proof that it's your money.
Your issue is the first of the kind. No one had this problem before.

So I guess we all should assume FairProof is not interested in responding?