Here what I read in the thread:
1. moreia was a bad guy trying to infect some casinos but failed.
2. moreia won on FairProof fairly with his deposit.
3. FairProof decided to not pay moreia because he was a bad guy.
Am I getting the facts right here?
Topic: FairProof.com is a SCAM - Stole over 7.5BTC.. No response since Nov 10 - page 2. (Read 5357 times)
November 01, 2014, 06:09:25 AM
November 01, 2014, 06:01:01 AM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3282475
Fake statistics???
Well we can't prove that.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3088413
Proof that
house edge was "lowered" from 7% (to 1.9%)
Fake statistics???
Well we can't prove that.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3088413
Proof that
house edge was "lowered" from 7% (to 1.9%)
November 01, 2014, 05:56:23 AM
Scam. Scam is obvious.
Only the interface of the site is good. ie. whoever designed that got some skills. But is operated by a scammy admin.
A similar site: http://satoshi36.com/index probably operated by same person.
Only the interface of the site is good. ie. whoever designed that got some skills. But is operated by a scammy admin.
A similar site: http://satoshi36.com/index probably operated by same person.
October 31, 2014, 06:50:28 PM
Actually, scratch that.
4.3btc.... Because I haven't got 1.5btc like you,claim in my address nor in my fairproof account
4.3btc.... Because I haven't got 1.5btc like you,claim in my address nor in my fairproof account
October 31, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
Moreia is just some idiot who lost all his money gambling and is trying to do whatever he can to get some back .You lost it fair and square quit being a bitch. Your out that cash and its your fault
obviously you didnt read the story you childi couldnt cashout, thats the point
24 days i had to wait before my account was re-enabled for cashouts.
24 DAYS
i wanted to cashout at 4.3BTC, which is why i made this thread
Fairproof, you still owe me 2.8btc
October 31, 2014, 01:01:23 PM
Moreia is just some idiot who lost all his money gambling and is trying to do whatever he can to get some back .You lost it fair and square quit being a bitch. Your out that cash and its your fault
October 31, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
Moreia,
Your bitcoins are not stolen, you’ve lost them during the investigation.
Your behaviour caused such a long investigation.
Firstly you’ve sent an infected betting bot for fairproof.
After a couple of weeks you’ve made the first deposit and immideatly got a huge winnings.
We could block your account according to our terms of services but we haven’t - we started the investigation.
While contacting our support you asked how to redeem a Bad Luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC (7.5BTC * 20%). Not a word about 4.3 BTC.
But on bitcointalk you are talking about stolen 7.5 BTC. How come?
Moreia, you act very strange. Nevertheless we provide you with a bad luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC.
$username, thanks. You proved that moreia is not innocent.
Our policy is not to wash dirty linen in public. But currently we have to. Screenshots Moreia’s messages can be provided by request.
We close this case and nobody could not claim FairProof as a Scam.
Your bitcoins are not stolen, you’ve lost them during the investigation.
Your behaviour caused such a long investigation.
Firstly you’ve sent an infected betting bot for fairproof.
After a couple of weeks you’ve made the first deposit and immideatly got a huge winnings.
We could block your account according to our terms of services but we haven’t - we started the investigation.
While contacting our support you asked how to redeem a Bad Luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC (7.5BTC * 20%). Not a word about 4.3 BTC.
But on bitcointalk you are talking about stolen 7.5 BTC. How come?
Moreia, you act very strange. Nevertheless we provide you with a bad luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC.
$username, thanks. You proved that moreia is not innocent.
Our policy is not to wash dirty linen in public. But currently we have to. Screenshots Moreia’s messages can be provided by request.
We close this case and nobody could not claim FairProof as a Scam.
lol whos lets someone play while they investigate? what fucking bs, all u have is scam accusations in your profile not one good thing said. NO one should play here.
October 31, 2014, 10:27:46 AM
Moreia,
Your bitcoins are not stolen, you’ve lost them during the investigation.
Your behaviour caused such a long investigation.
Firstly you’ve sent an infected betting bot for fairproof.
After a couple of weeks you’ve made the first deposit and immideatly got a huge winnings.
We could block your account according to our terms of services but we haven’t - we started the investigation.
While contacting our support you asked how to redeem a Bad Luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC (7.5BTC * 20%). Not a word about 4.3 BTC.
But on bitcointalk you are talking about stolen 7.5 BTC. How come?
Moreia, you act very strange. Nevertheless we provide you with a bad luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC.
$username, thanks. You proved that moreia is not innocent.
Our policy is not to wash dirty linen in public. But currently we have to. Screenshots Moreia’s messages can be provided by request.
We close this case and nobody could not claim FairProof as a Scam.
Your bitcoins are not stolen, you’ve lost them during the investigation.
Your behaviour caused such a long investigation.
Firstly you’ve sent an infected betting bot for fairproof.
After a couple of weeks you’ve made the first deposit and immideatly got a huge winnings.
We could block your account according to our terms of services but we haven’t - we started the investigation.
While contacting our support you asked how to redeem a Bad Luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC (7.5BTC * 20%). Not a word about 4.3 BTC.
But on bitcointalk you are talking about stolen 7.5 BTC. How come?
Moreia, you act very strange. Nevertheless we provide you with a bad luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC.
$username, thanks. You proved that moreia is not innocent.
Our policy is not to wash dirty linen in public. But currently we have to. Screenshots Moreia’s messages can be provided by request.
We close this case and nobody could not claim FairProof as a Scam.
October 30, 2014, 08:51:59 AM
I am taking a neutral stance from here.
I feel that both moreia and fairproof is acting very strange.
I will not disclose any more emails as per fairproof's request.
I just want the money I earned, simple as that. I've done nothing wrong, I didn't harm nor cheat his site therefor I'm entitled to my money I feel that both moreia and fairproof is acting very strange.
I will not disclose any more emails as per fairproof's request.
October 30, 2014, 07:47:17 AM
I am taking a neutral stance from here.
I feel that both moreia and fairproof is acting very strange.
I will not disclose any more emails as per fairproof's request.
I feel that both moreia and fairproof is acting very strange.
I will not disclose any more emails as per fairproof's request.
October 30, 2014, 04:33:43 AM
moreia is a scammer
moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
While I do not consider any of this activity to be trustworthy, I do not think any of this is a valid reason to not pay moreia. If he won the money then he should be paid, end of story. moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
Unless it can be documented that the maleware that was sent by moreia had caused him to win when he should not have won then he should be paid.
Although admitting that the maleware had caused him to win would certainly be a black eye to your site, it is the only real reason why he should not be entitled to his winnings (I would not put it out of the question that this is what caused him to win)
As he says in this email, he was not infected and not affected by the malware sent by darksun, therefor,
if you find a piece of malware that is capable of rigging winnings on a gambling site, then I'll gladly drop this report.
I've never heard of such thing.
October 30, 2014, 04:15:26 AM
moreia is a scammer
moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
While I do not consider any of this activity to be trustworthy, I do not think any of this is a valid reason to not pay moreia. If he won the money then he should be paid, end of story. moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
Unless it can be documented that the maleware that was sent by moreia had caused him to win when he should not have won then he should be paid.
Although admitting that the maleware had caused him to win would certainly be a black eye to your site, it is the only real reason why he should not be entitled to his winnings (I would not put it out of the question that this is what caused him to win)
As he says in this email, he was not infected and not affected by the malware sent by darksun, therefor,
October 30, 2014, 03:52:13 AM
moreia is a scammer
moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
While I do not consider any of this activity to be trustworthy, I do not think any of this is a valid reason to not pay moreia. If he won the money then he should be paid, end of story. moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
Unless it can be documented that the maleware that was sent by moreia had caused him to win when he should not have won then he should be paid.
Although admitting that the maleware had caused him to win would certainly be a black eye to your site, it is the only real reason why he should not be entitled to his winnings (I would not put it out of the question that this is what caused him to win)
As he says in this email, he was not infected and not affected by the malware sent by darksun, therefor,
October 29, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
moreia is a scammer
moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
While I do not consider any of this activity to be trustworthy, I do not think any of this is a valid reason to not pay moreia. If he won the money then he should be paid, end of story. moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
Unless it can be documented that the maleware that was sent by moreia had caused him to win when he should not have won then he should be paid.
Although admitting that the maleware had caused him to win would certainly be a black eye to your site, it is the only real reason why he should not be entitled to his winnings (I would not put it out of the question that this is what caused him to win)
October 29, 2014, 04:27:01 PM
what ever you say TF.
October 29, 2014, 08:35:02 AM
moreia is a scammer
moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
moreia was involved in various Bitcoin HYIP/ponzi scams. moreia has also tried sending malware / wallet stealers, LOL.
FairProof, don't pay out this user.
October 29, 2014, 12:05:02 AM
Do you have a link to the thread that you did this loan with account as collateral? And can you FairProof.com confirm the malware was sent via bitcointalk during the periods of 4th of September to the 19th of September?
I would actually argue that attempted social engineering or sending malware is not good enough reason to lock or take users funds. The fact they didn't give you a chance to respond to it, is also a bit unacceptable. I told the same thing to win88.me, that it's a dangerous and stupid line to cross to take punitive actions against accounts.
The correct course of actions they should have taken is asked you for a withdrawal address, sent you your money and banned you from using their services, which I would be fully in support of them doing.
The real problem here is now that you lost the money, it makes it unclear what is the right way to handle it. I read through your thread, and you made what looks to be dozens of good faith attempts to resolve it with them, and they showed clear lack of communication or proper handling. So i think the fair thing to do is them give you 4.3 and re-evaluate how they deal with this sort of stuff.
There is not a public thread but I do have PM records which I'll be posting in a new thread once all this is cleared up. One scammer at a time. I would actually argue that attempted social engineering or sending malware is not good enough reason to lock or take users funds. The fact they didn't give you a chance to respond to it, is also a bit unacceptable. I told the same thing to win88.me, that it's a dangerous and stupid line to cross to take punitive actions against accounts.
The correct course of actions they should have taken is asked you for a withdrawal address, sent you your money and banned you from using their services, which I would be fully in support of them doing.
The real problem here is now that you lost the money, it makes it unclear what is the right way to handle it. I read through your thread, and you made what looks to be dozens of good faith attempts to resolve it with them, and they showed clear lack of communication or proper handling. So i think the fair thing to do is them give you 4.3 and re-evaluate how they deal with this sort of stuff.
I'm waiting for Fairproofs response again. I'm promoting this thread when I get on my PC.
October 28, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
My point of view is that, if that was really the issue, fairproof have no right to confiscate the funds.
Even banning moreia immediately and notifying him is understandable.
But, fairproof allowed him to play, allowed him to win, why?
Why unlock the account after 24 days?
Why no explanation?
Even banning moreia immediately and notifying him is understandable.
But, fairproof allowed him to play, allowed him to win, why?
Why unlock the account after 24 days?
Why no explanation?
October 28, 2014, 10:38:19 PM
I've looked through my outbox and during the periods of the 14th of September to the 19th of September my account was in the possession of darksun22 for a loan
From what I can see, malware WAS SENT from this account in the fom of a dice bot. I'm going to post a scam accusation against darksun22 in the coming hours.
Fairproof did in fact notify that the item was malware, though, I do not se why this affects my BTC and why this wsnt mentioned earlier. This seems more like he is using that as an excuse not to pay.
That is a separate issue and I will deal with it accordingly, but this has nothing to do with my 4.3btc
Edit - copies of espringe messages are in my outbox, but not in my inbox. Funnily enough dark sun forgot to wipe all of the evidence.
From what I can see, malware WAS SENT from this account in the fom of a dice bot. I'm going to post a scam accusation against darksun22 in the coming hours.
Fairproof did in fact notify that the item was malware, though, I do not se why this affects my BTC and why this wsnt mentioned earlier. This seems more like he is using that as an excuse not to pay.
That is a separate issue and I will deal with it accordingly, but this has nothing to do with my 4.3btc
Edit - copies of espringe messages are in my outbox, but not in my inbox. Funnily enough dark sun forgot to wipe all of the evidence.
October 28, 2014, 09:57:58 PM
You just made a fool out of yourself...
Was your email in escrow for the loan as well?
Was your email in escrow for the loan as well?
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