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legendary
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May 24, 2019, 08:43:06 AM
#46
@Bill

I didn't tag you because you have alt accounts, I don't see you cheated sig. I tagged you because you are account buyer and liar....latest discovery, judging neutral feedbacks you have on EthanB account, trust farmer. I didn't made these connections - someone else did. I posted them. Don't blame me for people being scared to post things about you because of recent events with sensitive PM.

@CH
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Moronbozo was called a gutter rat sig spammer by U2 when he busted him sig spamming from his zorrobeck account anyway
You are lying.

And what is this lie with video evidence you are shitting around forum? Are you unable to read that post? Where did I say it isn't my account?

Stop spamming lies and shitposting.
legendary
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Merit: 1123
May 24, 2019, 08:22:17 AM
#45
About your former DT1 position, I have excluded you from my trust list

That's fair, you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that your trust feedback is appropriate nor consistent. The poster directly below yours fits the criteria for which you've left me negative trust, but you have failed to leave them negative trust.

This is maybe stupid, but when I read one of your latest posts, I unconsciously apply negation to it and tend to stick to this version.

You're not the only person doing this, and I wouldn't call you stupid for doing so; you'd be wrong, but wrong and stupid are different things.

I find it likely that this story is true
I'm looking at evidence showing that he didn't

What I've been saying isn't a fairy-tale that I've concocted, but I understand if you are weary of previous omission.
I just wouldn't distrust the things I am saying, because of the things I didn't say.

So many things have been dig up that if there is some truth somewhere, it is very far of what you say.

Which truth has been very far from what I'm saying? I'm being open.

I was honestly trying to remove myself from the drama.

That would be much easier to do than you're making it, if that was your goal.

Bill, the difference between you and me is you bought your account, and I didn't. We do not fall in the same category there.

There's differences in every case, if you want to play this "better or worse" game, at least I wasn't involving myself in the account sale(s) of a legendary account with trust associated with it. Selling your reputation is much more devious, you're right we don't fall in the same category; you are sitting in a much dirtier boat.

Now let's act like you disagree with that, I know you do, so do you think those differences are relevant in terms of feedback like this? :

Code:
Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming.

That one is on there twice ^


Here's another one from the guy that posted directly above you.

Code:
Account sellers and buyers are not to be trusted.

Does their feedback not apply to your situation because you were unsuccessful?

Did you honestly believe nobody was going to tag you the moment you said you bought your account?

No. I'll say that the amount of tags, and the profound hypocrisy of some of them is surprising, though.

Really you should be thankful for being the recipient of a special theymos intervention

"Should be", as if to say I am not thankful for a busy man to take time out of their life to look into this stupid shit. The first thing I did was say "Thank you" to theymos.
legendary
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May 24, 2019, 07:51:17 AM
#44
I am personally against the tagging of accounts for old offenses, including bill's. However, not all others feel the same way.

The problem is that almost every single person that has tagged me for buying bill gator have refused to tag nutildah (you) for attempting to sell a legendary account, with trust long after my "offense". They are refusing to treat iluvbitcoins case, blazed, even marlboroza's with the same principles. These "others" feel however is most convenient and try to wrap it up in concepts they will throwaway and belittle when the next situation arises.

Without having a consistent criteria for tagging these accounts we'll just keep running in circles of no accountability until the hypocrisy is even more egregious.  
If the rule was that anyone involved in account buying/selling ever is to be tagged by at least half a dozen DT, then I wouldn't have anything to say.

I was honestly trying to remove myself from the drama.

Bill, the difference between you and me is you bought your account, and I didn't. We do not fall in the same category there.

Did you honestly believe nobody was going to tag you the moment you said you bought your account? Really you should be thankful for being the recipient of a special theymos intervention that has apparently allowed you to remain in your signature campaign.

Theymos' decision is the first of its kind I've ever seen, so consider yourself lucky to be part of special treatment enjoyed by less that 0.1% of the forum.
legendary
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May 24, 2019, 07:33:45 AM
#43
If you want the honest answer, 0, but I'm sure you would rather formulate a wild conspiracy.

Well, it's not about conspiracy.
It's just about having a very very hard time to believe what you post.
About your former DT1 position, I have excluded you from my trust list because after shedding light on some events, I don't trust your judgement and actions anymore and believe you are not DT material.

This is maybe stupid, but when I read one of your latest posts, I unconsciously apply negation to it and tend to stick to this version.
I do not share my thoughts because I know that there is nothing backing them, but its been a lot of things discovered these last days !!
I'm expecting, what else will come out ?

So many things have been dig up that if there is some truth somewhere, it is very far of what you say.
If by any chance you tell the truth, you need to understand that facts make it very hard to take your words seriously.

Once bitten, twice shy.
legendary
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May 24, 2019, 06:58:18 AM
#42
I feel when you do not know the "exact events"  then it means you are hiding some events.

Allow me to politely say that you are incorrect. Innocuous things happen daily that you will not remember down the road.

He also bought it from a professional account seller and not from the original owner.

I find it so strange when people talk about things they have no idea about.
The "original owner" and the "professional account seller" are the same person.

The wordsmith multi accounter, with his style and passion for writing it does make me wonder how many other accounts he has enrolled in campaigns.

If you want the honest answer, 0, but I'm sure you would rather formulate a wild conspiracy.

If he is retired I imagine he is making a decent side income with 20+ accounts earning 0.3BTC plus a week.

TMAN, for old-times sake would you be willing to describe who I am in your head? I'd like to know how deep you think the rabbit hole goes.

I am personally against the tagging of accounts for old offenses, including bill's. However, not all others feel the same way.

The problem is that almost every single person that has tagged me for buying bill gator have refused to tag nutildah (you) for attempting to sell a legendary account, with trust long after my "offense". They are refusing to treat iluvbitcoins case, blazed, even marlboroza's with the same principles. These "others" feel however is most convenient and try to wrap it up in concepts they will throwaway and belittle when the next situation arises.

Without having a consistent criteria for tagging these accounts we'll just keep running in circles of no accountability until the hypocrisy is even more egregious.  
If the rule was that anyone involved in account buying/selling ever is to be tagged by at least half a dozen DT, then I wouldn't have anything to say.
member
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May 24, 2019, 06:04:22 AM
#41
Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.

As has been explained to you by different people several times already, there's giant differences between my situation and others:

1. I attempted to sell my own account. Didn't hide the fact that i was doing it.
2. I couldn't find a buyer, so I kept it.
3. I would now never sell my account.

There's several ways I could prove to you I've always had this account and you would reject every one.

For instance, I once won 0.02 from BiPolarBob during one of his giveaways, but I deleted my BTC address from his thread. With enough hunting, I could probably find it and sign a private message from it. Its not a staked BTC address, and nobody outside of Bob or that thread knew about it. I also have a NEM address I can still sign from -- I was one of the original NEM stakeholders and heavily active throughout its launch. I also one time paid for a t-shirt using NXT, could probably dig up that address as well.

At least some of the other DT are probably taking theymos' guidance into consideration upon unleashing the trust system from his direct control:

- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

Obviously you very deeply give a fuck because you've brought this topic up several times already. Its not a black-and-white issue and your attempts to turn it into such have proven futile, even after persisting for months. Kind of like CH, you're becoming unhinged over your obsessive desire to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Sorry for taking this discussion off-topic, marlboroza.



LOL I will keep handing you shovels. Keep smashing through that hard layer of rocks  hahah

Look Notildah. Let me explain it to you again.

There is a GIANT difference when you are talking about TRUST. It comes down to intent. That is the most important thing here with account sales.

This post (if it is true) looks even worse on your part.

So here you are https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50719875

a/ fully convinced that people should have red trust for selling their account because it facilitates scamming
b/ going as far as calling people EVIL that sell their accounts, going to make a list of EVIL people were you who sold their accounts.

So not only are you fully intending to facilitate scamming, you are knowingly acting in an evil manner.

Also you are now saying you never stopped wanting to facilitate scams or being evil IT WAS ONLY YOU COULD NOT FIND A BUYER?

So you didn't even have a change of heart ? you just could not dupe anyone into buying your crappy account haha

Bill gator on the other hand likely never intended to facilitate or scam or be EVIL at all.  Who would I trust more knowing the different intentions here??  That is the GIANT difference.

Also are you now telling us you were given MILLIONS of dollars as a NEM stake holder and now need to beg for 0.02BTC loans recently?? what happen you EVIL bastard? child sacrifices not coming cheap these days or something lol  ? so a NEM stake holder and holding a bag of dash before and NOW are flat out broke begging for btc dust loans??  who says being evil does not pay lol.  Or did nutildah not include those in the account sale to some broke bum that spent out his only 0.3btc buying that damaged account. He booby trapped it with anti account sales posts before unloading it ...evil bastard.

EVIL, scam facilitating loser.

Not that I have too much higher opinion of bill anyway. He only cares about this "red trust abuse" now he got painted red. Unlike a true legend that defends others and noobs that were getting picked on that had nothing to do with him. Piece of dirt was siding against the true legend and now it has come fully circle on him. Too bad.

Fake Notildahs in circulation does not have the same ring to it though for sure.

Moronbozo was called a gutter rat sig spammer by U2 when he busted him sig spamming from his zorrobeck account anyway, so not entirely sure why he now is worried how many accounts bill gator has. I don't think ANY of them should be in a position of trust.  

legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
May 24, 2019, 04:52:54 AM
#40
1. So? Bill Gator openly admitted he bought the account himself, he wasn't caught doing something shady by a 3rd party.

Right, so the exchange took place, that's why its different. He also bought it from a professional account seller and not from the original owner.

2. Yes, and we are forced to take your word for this aren't we?
3. See number 2.

Your "proof" is nothing of the sort. If in fact your account was sold there is absolutely no reason all of this additional information could not be transferred along with it.

Just put aside your grudges and think rationally for a moment:

If I would go through all that trouble to sell my account, transferring over control of several coin addresses and an email address, so nobody could/would notice that it had been sold, why on earth would I attempt to sell it under my own name?

I know at heart you're a conspiracy theorist and nothings going to stop you from holding some pretty wacky beliefs, but to anybody capable of entertaining a rational, unbiased thought, the discernible evidence at hand points to me still being the original owner.

I see, forgiveness for thee, but not for Bill Gator in this case eh? Thanks for demonstrating the hypocrisy of tagging Bill and not you even more completely. Keep that brown on your nose, its good luck.

Once again, you walk away having learned nothing and doubling down on your own arrogance -- a tactic which has yielded nothing but unfavorable results for you in the past. I just explained to you the difference, for the 5th time. There's nothing hypocritical about it at all. There is only your inability to think rationally.

Again, all we have is your word. There is literally no way for you to prove you haven't transferred your account. This has nothing to do with a grudge, this is a simple fact. If your account had been sold, the new owner would have plenty of incentive to cover up this fact and would want to pretend the transfer never happened now wouldn't they? You trying to sell it under your own name was just dumb, not proof of innocence. This is all besides the point anyway, the point being you get a pass because you suck all the right dicks, Bill Gator slaps the dicks away and he gets red marks.
member
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May 24, 2019, 04:37:56 AM
#39
Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.
1. I attempted to sell my own account. Didn't hide the fact that i was doing it.
2. I couldn't find a buyer, so I kept it.
3. I would now never sell my account.
But the general standard is Account buyers/sellers are not to be trusted.
Wondering how the hell it is different in your case.
Though I'm not going to digging much now, I know you still are an account trader.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
May 24, 2019, 04:27:37 AM
#38
Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.

As has been explained to you by different people several times already, there's giant differences between my situation and others:

1. I attempted to sell my own account. Didn't hide the fact that i was doing it.
2. I couldn't find a buyer, so I kept it.
3. I would now never sell my account.

There's several ways I could prove to you I've always had this account and you would reject every one.

For instance, I once won 0.02 from BiPolarBob during one of his giveaways, but I deleted my BTC address from his thread. With enough hunting, I could probably find it and sign a private message from it. Its not a staked BTC address, and nobody outside of Bob or that thread knew about it. I also have a NEM address I can still sign from -- I was one of the original NEM stakeholders and heavily active throughout its launch. I also one time paid for a t-shirt using NXT, could probably dig up that address as well.

At least some of the other DT are probably taking theymos' guidance into consideration upon unleashing the trust system from his direct control:

- You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.

Obviously you very deeply give a fuck because you've brought this topic up several times already. Its not a black-and-white issue and your attempts to turn it into such have proven futile, even after persisting for months. Kind of like CH, you're becoming unhinged over your obsessive desire to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Sorry for taking this discussion off-topic, marlboroza.

1. So? Bill Gator openly admitted he bought the account himself, he wasn't caught doing something shady by a 3rd party.
2. Yes, and we are forced to take your word for this aren't we?
3. See number 2.

Your "proof" is nothing of the sort. If in fact your account was sold there is absolutely no reason all of this additional information could not be transferred along with it. I see, forgiveness for thee, but not for Bill Gator in this case eh? Thanks for demonstrating the hypocrisy of tagging Bill and not you even more completely. Keep that brown on your nose, its good luck.
legendary
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May 24, 2019, 02:00:53 AM
#37
The wordsmith multi accounter, with his style and passion for writing it does make me wonder how many other accounts he has enrolled in campaigns. If he is retired I imagine he is making a decent side income with 20+ accounts earning 0.3BTC plus a week.
sr. member
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I am alive but in hibernation.
May 23, 2019, 09:57:31 PM
#36
toy4lov3rs isn't my account, so I can't explain the things they do. I'm sure that account was probably bought/sold before and after I knew the owner; I don't keep in touch with them.
I don't remember the situation where they used my address (or if it even is my address) as well as I would like, because it was randomly brought up a long time after it happened and I don't exactly remember the circumstance. I do remember it being about them wanting to join a signature campaign, and I'm 99% sure it's my address that they've wrongfully posted, but I'd have to do a bunch of digging to see if I have any record for that address to verify.

These aren't "excuses", just like my ban appeal was not an "excuse"; These are articulations of actual events.

I feel when you do not know the "exact events"  then it means you are hiding some events. In normal scenario any user can/will be tagged for confessing account buying. You are not victim here but those guys are fortunate who are not tagged despite of selling/buying account.
member
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May 23, 2019, 09:05:45 PM
#35
Who thought up that thread title for moronbozo. No way he came up with something like that by himself.

Remember though MB to tie 2 accounts together conclusively you require video evidence like yours and zorrobek ... anything less is speculation.
legendary
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May 23, 2019, 06:54:11 PM
#34
Seems the gay marlboroza don't like when the truth is exposed against him and his friends , you fucking little disgusting piece of shit.
Is it just me or Bitcoin Supremo is extremely excited by this thread, especially when Ethan B was mentioned?
Eh, it is probably in my mind.  Smiley

Stfu if you have nothing constructive to say you little dickhead.
I actually have but I can't. Previous post was already constructive enough.
copper member
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May 23, 2019, 06:06:40 PM
#33
Seems the gay marlboroza don't like when the truth is exposed against him and his friends , you fucking little disgusting piece of shit. Stfu if you have nothing constructive to say you little dickhead.
legendary
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May 23, 2019, 06:04:06 PM
#32
Seems Miss. Bitcoin Supremo can't stay on topic.

@mightyDT's should we all create as much as we can sockpuppets to make our opinion sound stronger? Please. You are smarter than that.


First of all, credit to this finding goes to person who doesn't want to reveal themselves. Well, I can't blame them, Bill likes to share sensitive PM info.

This is wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/20a5013688c97d83/addresses

Addresses which are part of this wallet:
Code:
17GFts7gLPthfVbKs2iGUuWYtsEKeNgLuh
1PB65ZLAFTFAf5k1zJ3okDpBTgdSXvCETu
1LYaWEEuEDnZCdTcuEQ1UUZ9dZdnjEQh4a
1LYG6HStjoYjmmv8C7VwS8zs3rjrdEHZJR

Fake Bill posted this:

Bitcointalk name: bill gator
Bitcointalk account URL: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bill-gator-370611
Rank: Senior Member
Current post count -(including this one): 459
BTC Address: 17GFts7gLPthfVbKs2iGUuWYtsEKeNgLuh

Here:
[...]If you are alright with this, 17GFts7gLPthfVbKs2iGUuWYtsEKeNgLuh is my bitcoin address that I use around here [...]

EthanB posted this:
Name: EthanB
Post count: 588
Rank: Full Member
Bitcoin address: 1LYaWEEuEDnZCdTcuEQ1UUZ9dZdnjEQh4a
Profile UID: 556167

And signed message from this address:
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is EthanB from Bitcointalk.org attempting to change my address on February 11th, 2018 for the Docademic campaign (and Bitcointalk Profile) : 17npTFDKRLFXySzybAA5tcdrEAS8zf43na will be my new address used.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1PB65ZLAFTFAf5k1zJ3okDpBTgdSXvCETu
ID+qT76sjSM/LcTpiUpBHNkOJQ6pJ0umklzAaP+NmZyvfN8jJFEJFCxhT7lq/DSJ6qh2E5IiZBCkIDnpEPmLrWc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Please update my address in the spreadsheet, I think my original address may be compromised.

Why EthanB assumed address is compromised?

Received my BTC0.014, although it was to the address I believe to be compromised and had asked to change. I was able to move the coins out of there before someone else got their hands on it, but I still would like to have avoided that altogether. Anyways, I've been paid in full for my 2-weeks participation; just waiting on these Tokens now. Does anybody know which exchange I could sell these tokens on?

Where is Bill Gator to explain why probably Fake EthanB thinks that?
newbie
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May 23, 2019, 05:53:49 PM
#31
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A sea star, sea cucumber, sea lily, sea urchin, sea anemone, sea squirt, sea sponge, coral, and Portuguese Man-O-War
FYI none of these has brain by the way.

And ironically they would all be able to articulate an argument better than you have done!
May be you have failed to see the good side my friend.
legendary
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May 23, 2019, 05:50:25 PM
#30
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A sea star, sea cucumber, sea lily, sea urchin, sea anemone, sea squirt, sea sponge, coral, and Portuguese Man-O-War
FYI none of these has brain by the way.

And ironically they would all be able to articulate an argument better than you have done!
newbie
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May 23, 2019, 05:46:24 PM
#29

Are you saying you are TECHSHARE or is your brain just damaged?
It's not explainable to a brainless animal.

You don't even know which one is you.
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A sea star, sea cucumber, sea lily, sea urchin, sea anemone, sea squirt, sea sponge, coral, and Portuguese Man-O-War
FYI none of these has brain by the way.

edit:

Has anyone notice the custom title? Is she back to staff or this kind of position to have her own custom title?
https://i.imgur.com/FGFBWmD.png
legendary
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May 23, 2019, 05:43:58 PM
#28
@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah.

Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I an't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.

Finally someone who stands up and speaks the truth against these dickheads which have made this forum a total mess. Thumbs up for standing up and speaking against this communist lobby of bullshit propaganda which has taken this forum to the worst possible level yet because it will become worse as long as someone who is clearly accused and accepted extortion like Lauda , TMAN and others are on DT not giving a fuck about the forum but only thinking about their personal gains.
I can confidently say that they already started to look back TECSHARE's history to find something to remove from DT network and also to tag. I hope this fella stay safe.

I doubt that but it can happen, TECSHARE reputation is in Computer Hardware he is a great seller and has contributed much more to the forum than these dickheads who are in power now, if they do this will only show that this is indeed a gang and will go miles in length to discredit everyone who disagrees with them.

I have been speaking out about this kind of behavior for a long time. They have actively been harassing me for years and use any opportunity to take retribution for my insolence of speaking out about them. The only reason this has become so openly discussed now is because they increasingly get more extreme and blatant about their abusive behavior as time passes and their victims begin collecting and speaking out.
legendary
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Terminated.
May 23, 2019, 05:41:23 PM
#27
I can confidently say that they already started to look back TECSHARE's history to find something to remove from DT network and also to tag. I hope this fella stay safe.
He's a whiny political troll, it's easier to ignore him. Not worth reading his shitposting.  Wink
Hey listen, instead of talking shit just ignore me if you wish to. You don't need to tell the board what to do. Am I talking too much truth about you?

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Not worth reading his shitposting.  Wink
I am shitposting or providing valid points?
Told you, you ate your brain now don't push it too hard to prove that you have a brain left.
Are you saying you are TECHSHARE or is your brain just damaged?
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