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March 30, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
#8
rumors of china ban + IRS taxing in usa.

I thought that the IRS taxing was positive for BTC. At least they are recognizing and regulating Bitcoin and are indirectly saying that the possession and trade of BTC is not illegal.
It'd be nice if the IRS's guidance fundamentally matched FinCEN's, but they seem to be coming from different directions. FinCEN says Bitcoin's like a dollar bill, and the IRS says it's like a goat, which have totally separate rules. The whole point of the "tax me" movement in the community was so there'd be clarity. Now, we have two directives telling us to do different things or be tried as a criminal, which is even worse than no clarity because it effectively DOES make it illegal in certain instances.

Say we're talking the immediate situation after Prohibition, where a harsh mish-mash of local, state, and federal rules were still all over the books, and you're selling Bushmill's. We'll say there are two organizations governing alcohol sales, both of which can file criminal charges and revoke your liquor license: the CBA and the ABC. The ABC says Bushmill's is governed under the "general liquor" rules and you can only sell Bushmill's in government-operated liquor stores during daylight and not on Sundays. The CBA says Bushmill's is governed under the "imported whiskey" rules and you can only sell Bushmill's in government-and-privately-operated liquor stores between 6pm-10pm, and only on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. No matter what you do, you're doing it wrong. Meanwhile, your attorney says Bushmill's should be governed under the "domestic-distribution import law of 1933" if you pay and file for a "Class 7-FC liquor import license" and be able to be sold night and day, every day except the weekend and not before 10am on Monday. Your friendly competitor down the street tells you he stopped stocking Bushmill's altogether after the IRS told him to wait for guidance on the new tax rates for imported liquor sales and went back to only selling domestics. After enjoying his import stock he's since moved to his private office, you realize his approach is definitely the most reasonable, though clearly non-ideal, and move your own stock of Bushmill's to your office to enjoy a happy - and slightly less profitable - two-year blur until a frontiersman liquor distributor appeals his prosecution by the CBA to the Supreme Court, the "imported whiskey" guidance is deemed invalid, and everyone accepts the "general liquor" rules.
hero member
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Hodl!
March 30, 2014, 12:01:30 PM
#7
Yah the IRS position is extremely logical and long suspected, by anyone who had enough braincells to blow their eardrums on the gunpowder equivalence scale.
legendary
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March 30, 2014, 11:51:58 AM
#6
rumors of china ban + IRS taxing in usa.

I thought that the IRS taxing was positive for BTC. At least they are recognizing and regulating Bitcoin and are indirectly saying that the possession and trade of BTC is not illegal.
hero member
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Hodl!
March 30, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
#5
Yes the situation in China has got "mysterious" again. Huge cloud of FUD developing from that, even Charlie and Bobby Lee have no clue WTF is going on yet.

Anyway, expect a roller coaster of pumps and dumps until April 15th when it's clear one way or the other whether it's going to be viable to hold, mine or use BTC in any manner in China.

The good news is, if this is total bannage, there's nothing else left and they can't screw with the market again.

Also there should be quite a bounce back after April 15th as the rest of the worlds markets realise that the huge volumes generated by the Chinese exchanges were due to high frequency trading, and thus don't represent a particularly huge pool of bitcoin about to be dumped on the world. i.e. one maybe an order of magnitude lower than one might suppose from exchange volumes.
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March 30, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
#4
rumors of china ban + IRS taxing in usa.
then a few people panic and everyone panics.
market will bounce back in a week or two.
newbie
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March 30, 2014, 11:20:29 AM
#3
Anyone have any idea what is contributing to the almost relentless decline of bitcoin at the minute? I thought it had got over the collapse of Mt Gox & rumours of a ban in China.

It heard the same thing months ago Cheesy
newbie
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March 30, 2014, 11:01:17 AM
#2
I'm wondering the same thing… Kind of makes no sense considering there has also been positive news with a couple companies gaining funding. Other than the IRS declaring the bitcoin is property for tax purposes in the USA than not sure what gives. On the plus side though getting me some extra coins on the cheap yay!  Grin
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March 30, 2014, 10:28:52 AM
#1
Anyone have any idea what is contributing to the almost relentless decline of bitcoin at the minute? I thought it had got over the collapse of Mt Gox & rumours of a ban in China.
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