Topic: Fantasy sport as a unique business and entertainment or plagiarism and delusion? (Read 277 times)

Most of the sites does not mean all sites because I think some sites allow their user to use VPN. But to prevent the worst thing that can happen to us, we shouldn't use VPN and play normally like the other player. And if we can not access the site, we can search for the other site which is available in our country.

It is better to ask the site about using VPN so we can get the right answer and we can prevent breaking their rules. That is the thing that every gambler needs to do.

That is an interesting application I have never thought about it, so in a way it would be like what happens in a video game when you equip a certain item to a character and then certain actions are boosted for that character.

I will be honest that is a good idea, I had been thinking how NFTs could be added to fantasy sports but this seems like a lovely idea that could be liked by the fans of such games, still if they have to buy such an NFT I still think many will refuse as a matter of principle and will prefer to play without those boosts.

Most of the sites are against using VPN and therefore even asking them would be futile you can always read it in their terms and conditions.

-Do not use VPN if they do not permit your particular area then you leave it at that, there are other options available.


But there are still many players who are true to this game. If you explore it's roots it's actually not something new, if you do know what modern family is, apparently they mentioned about this in Season 2 episode 5, which aired way back, showing that it's not so small as insignificant. The popularity might be growing but the whole idea is having good platforms to play on.


The usage of NFT's in fantasy gamin they are mainly used to display digital trading cards, I think they could be used and using blockchain technology in fantasy gamin would actually be a great idea since fiat is good but blockchain and cryptocurrencies can make it better 100%

It's certainly not plagiarism.

I think that it is quite a unique business. NFTs could come into play but it can function just as well without the NFT side of things.

It would be quite interesting for crypto sportsbooks to take this up given the convenience that they offer compared to fiat alternatives such as DK. Great market opportunity here.

It seems that the world of fantasy sports is huge, so it would make sense for cryptocurrency fans to be interested in it as well. I definitely see some of the currently established sportsbook betting sites having a good shot at cornering this market, but surprisingly they are outsourcing this right now and leaving a massive pile of money on the table. I was looking at Sportsbet a couple months ago and they actually redirected people to a third party for one of their fantasy sports competition and would have been able to serve their customers a bit better if it was built internally instead. NFT's are really going strong right now, so any ability to tie that into the game would also do well.

NFTs may well find application in fantasy sports. For example, NFTs can have different multipliers (1.1-2.0) that increase points for certain actions (scoring a goal, goal kick, etc.). If you apply an NFT with a certain action to one of the players on your team and he performs the action, you get increased points.  In fact, there could be many such examples.

This is not going to work, supposing that you do not have to go through KYC from the very beginning in the case you want to withdraw your winnings or you want to withdraw the rest of your capital after losing some then you are going to be hit with a KYC request, and what are you going to do at that point? Are you going to try to lie about that as well?

Besides most of those websites are aware of VPNs and most likely have the IP addresses of the most popular services so you will never fool them, so if they do not accept US citizens then it is better to just accept it and move on.

I think using VPN could be a solution, but you need to ask the website about using a VPN on their site so you will not get a problem in the future. If they prohibit you from using VPN, it is better to stop using their site and search for other gambling sites.

Related to fantasy sports, we do not know why the government thinks that fantasy sports are not considered gambling. Fantasy sports is a unique game that needs skills to predict which team has a big chance to win so that will not be the same as plagiarism because the game will have its own rule than the other gambling games. But predicting is the same as gambling.

How about using VPN? I think that'll work unless they'll ask you for a KYC to verify that you're a US citizen.

Well, all of the games requires strategy, any amount of effort in analyzing how to win in a game is need, unless it's a luck based game. Most of the fantasy sport is unique, it might be like the common sports but they've add some items or skills that makes the character also unique. I've never played one, but I think it'll never be a plagiarism if you know what you're doing.

Honestly, I don't see any growth in popularity, in search of fantasy tops I came across an article, it was in the summer of this year, it said that such sites do not live long, which makes it impossible to compile a normal one at the top, and sites that remain "alive" on a permanent basis 3 -4   

The main issue with fantasy sports is terminology and context based. One side of the debate contends fantasy sports are games of skill. Which would allow fantasy sports to avoid regulation and restrictions related to gambling. The other side banned fantasy sports in some US states. Even big and well established platforms like draftkings and fanduel are illegal. Harsh regulation makes the future of fantasy sports difficult.

I have seen cryptocurrency fantasy sports websites that were never updated that seemed shut down.

Collectibles and memorabilia markets for sports have been in operation for many decades. Baseball cards and collectibles are definitely a thing. Whether the sentimental value and market of sports collectibles could someday transition to NFTs, remains to be seen.

I think that crypt does not give anything like this to projects, it only complicates the already complex games, besides, many fantasy feel great and only with fiat, for example, India is now developing very rapidly.

It's hard to imagine a practical usage for NFT in fantasy games, because it will be just a "cosmetic" card without any extra attribute or benefit for the bearer, since this kind of game is fully influenced by the performance of real players during their real life matches. As a speculative or collectible asset it could work, but that is only for the most eccentric wealthy players, not for the common public.

NFT opportunities are only interesting when they have a function inside a virtual universe.

As we can see from the TS post fantasy sports is at the beginning of its development and every year it finds more and more supporters among betting fans and sporting events. Cryptocurrencies also gradually expand their influence in the role of financial instrument, so I'm sure that in 5 years fantasy sports will increase its audience by several times and almost every site dealing with betting on fantasy sports will accept cryptocurrencies for payment. This is an inevitable process.

Thanks for Sorare appointment, that was in my list-to-research, but somehow, I missed exploring that; yeah, on first look, it seems a bit mixed - lootboxes, cards, resale; probably a step aside from more "traditional" Fantasy Sports statistics, but something related for sure.


Yeah, "USA thing" is an excellent term. I found it almost the same. Although there are a lot of FS-projects that allow registration from other countries, for example, dream11, What if Sports, Paytm first games, Office Football Pool, FanTeam. Probably most of them are seem international. But, looking at similar-web traffic analysis, I'd say they are still popular only in North America.

Wall of text, that's true. My bad, I know I do over-texting all the time, not proud of that, but yet still. Data40 is my website, correct. I had and private survey with FS dataset creation. And in the middle of the work, I've realized that FS is an unknown gaming/gambling area for me. And bitcointalk has somehow become an experts-community in my opinion, where are chances to get new advice and pieces of information. So I gather thoughts and points of view to the moment.


For me, hitting out of the mainstream is more issue of complexity and decision-making-necessity of FS-alike projects. In other words: to start to enjoy FS, you have to work hard firstly. And this is probably not the popular way of entertaining themselves. Here comes, IMO, the opportunities in the crypto community, coz "here is also the area of high complexity."


Thanks, I wanted to make it interesting to read for those who never knew the FS-projects. Analysis and discipline - I agree, but unfortunately, those features seem not so popular currently, in this era

I find it strange that people are spending so much on these "fantasy" games but I guess it's a small leap from a fun game to competitive gambling. I see people in the office doing these fantasy football games and throwing 25 each in to a prize pool, it seems like being the winner is not competitive enough and there must be some sort of money incentive going to the winner. As we can see from fantasy sports companies like FanDuel, there is massive demand from people for this sort of gaming league and being able to predict the best teams is quite lucrative for sports fans, so it should do well in the cryptocurrency space as well. I'd expect a company like SportsBet could fill this gap if they put the resources into it.

I don't think it's going to get that much traction tbh. There are the real-world sports that we have and I'd honestly much watch that cause, after all, fantasy sports is something akin to numbers fighting against numbers. It's unlike eSports where players manipulate those numbers, fantasy sports instead use the real world to base their numbers in and then fight each other. It might get a part of it's own traction but I don't think it could possibly exceed what the sports scene currently has imo. After all, fantasy sports are stuck at an impasse if their real-world counterparts were to never change, so it really just follows that imo.

You have a very good topic, but the topic is too long, this will not attract many people to read it, but this is a very good topic.

Rotisserie, roto, virtual betting or what it is called is just a means of getting more people to be addicted to gambling, they are short in time and more risky and has no room for any analysis. That is why I do not like to go for such games at all for betting. I majorly prefer to always go for real sport and most especially football betting.

One thing I like about myself is the analyses I make before placing any bet, virtual betting will not make this possible, it is shorter than what I like, I prefer long period of time betting than the short ones and I also like the football in-play matches which you can place bet even every minute if there are many football events, there are always many football events daily. But I play just one or two and not up to to three because I know the more you play the start of losing in a way you will lose than the money you use to start.

There should be discipline when betting.

It might need some more time before hitting mainstream among gamblers. Convincing gamblers to switch over to an all new type of betting, may not be that easier; it must have more reasons than existing gambling types for any gambler to try and and then to continue with it.

I remember by the times of first break out of covid and lockdown periods, many gambling platforms introduced fantasy sportsbetting (even not in exact way what OP mention) but when lockdown were narrow down and actual sport events started to happen, I am not getting any update on progress of such fantasy sportsbetting.

AFAIK,fantasy sports are a USA thing.I don't know about any fantasy sports websites in Europe or Asia.
I've tried to signup at Fanduels in the past,but they don't allow people,who are not US citizens.
How come playing fantasy sports isn't considered gambling?For some reason Draftkings and Fanduels aren't heavily regulated in most US states.
I guess that playing fantasy sports requires skills like making proper analysis.Luck isn't that important,so fantasy sports games can be exploited in some way,but this might be very difficult.I'm not an expert in the subject anyway.
OP,what was the point of making that "wall of text" type of forum post and including two links pointing to this data40.com website?
Is this your website?