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December 10, 2015, 02:38:39 AM
#24
I was on level 25 since about a month. There is no more reinvestment possible, so I started withdrawing all my earnings, about 80000 satoshis a day. On saturday my account was suspended when I was ordering a withdrawal, allegedly for violating t&Cs. Since I'm not aware of any such violation, I mailed them asking for an explanation twice (inmediately and after 2 days again), and got no answer.

So my conclusion is that they are selectively getting rid of non profitable accounts (for them).


I am in the same case as you.

I am a veteran player who joined in June 2015, and when reached to level 25 in august, I started to withdraw to Xapo and with no problems.
With no problems up to yesterday, that as usual I atttended the farm, and I saw my balance was around 950,000 satoshi, so I decided it was a good time to cash out some satoshi to Xapo.
So when I attempted to withdraw 500,000 satoshi I got session teriminated, and shown the message about "account suspended cause breaching ToC".
The total accrued withdrawals done by me from august to now sum 8,000,000 satoshi in 16 withdrawals of 500,000 satoshi, all with no problem up to yesterday.The 17th withdrawal attempt got me suspended.
I have contacted admin in FarmSatoshi forum (via PM, the only way you can contact with), and so far got no response after 24 hours. I wrote a post in the forum of FarmSatoshi, which hasgot no response by admin. Moderator in forum has no competence is this issue, just have perms to moderate forum posts and nothing else.

These are some words by FarmSatoshi webmaster/admin written days earlier, from the game forum:

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Hey guys,
your help is much appreciated ! we did toughen up our anti cheating systems slightly which resulted in a few extra banned accounts .
We do appreciate a lot that the genuine players are giving us a hand by posting their payment proofs and defending the reputation and honesty of our games .
Unfortunately, many cheaters will simply pretend the game is unfair when they get banned Sad
with Love , Admin

What if that "tight up anti cheating systems slightly" means that right now that algorythm is throwing too many false positives? Doing an analogy/metaphor: like antivirus SW which detects viruses in their heuristical analysis, which turn to be just a false positive.

The list of players who are getting their account suspended at withdrawl is growing; another level 25 veteran player (with an account ID below 200) has been also suspended. The fact that other few players say that they have been able to withdraw, doesnt change my feeling that something is very screwed in Farmsatoshi "anti cheating systems", that is throwing false positives.

At least my case is a false positive:
- I do not use any bots
- the ads of the website are not blocked by my adblock extension (so the site is in whitelist)
- I complete always the antibot captcha used when buying water in game, and that it helps to stop bot scripts
- I have played around 100-150 of the "Speed game" mini-game
- I have written articles in my website about the game, how to play it, how to make a profit at it
- I coded a little userscript which filters the website chat box messages by user, since there is no way to moderate the messages, so as to ignore spammers and offenders there.

In the end I have used a lot of time in this faucet game, and forum. Why would I use any bot script, or risk to use it, if I have spent so much time on the game? It makes no sense.

If I was a bot user, I wouldnt be spending any time on the website, just let any script run and dedicate my time to other activity. That is what bot users do.

So, up to yesterday I had only positive words about FarmSatoshi, except the fact that the Community/Support Management has been quite poor since months. So up to yesterday, it was the King/Queen of Bitcoin faucet games, IMO.

 But after my suspension, and reading other cases, in my opinion FarmSatoshi admin right now is overwhelmed by many false positives, and so far s/he has taken the silent way.
FarmSatoshi is in crisis, and let's see which is the road that admin takes:
- a honest, professional road; or
- s/he keeps the current silent/coward road; or
- if it turns that website is not paying legit users anymore and becomes just another scam website like many others

This last choice makes little sense taking in count that the same webmaster has released CannonSatoshi 12 days ago.
 Well, there is quite an important difference in CannonSatoshi: it is possible to invest in it, starting by a minimum amount as of 1 million satoshi (0.01 BTC). My recommendation right now is to not invest a satoshi, till all the crisis in FarmSatoshi gets resolved one or other way.

 


hero member
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Crypto.games
December 09, 2015, 09:33:06 PM
#23
I use farmsatoshi also in my sparetime just for fun.
but im not getting any problems from it since the beginning
of my registration. i even withdraw a couple of times in it.
so i cannot say it is really a scam.
newbie
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December 09, 2015, 09:26:56 PM
#22
It is sad to see most of these great faucet games turn to be scam one by one.

Most likely their aims are good at beginning, but they promise to pay too much satoshis and cant pay that much at the end. Just my thoughts.
sr. member
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December 09, 2015, 07:39:31 PM
#21
You shouldn't invest in the site. I grew my levels from nothing and I'm earning pretty good money right now.

If you don't invest anything in the site you won't lose anything even if the site goes scam. You just lose your spare time that you didn't need anyway.
sr. member
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December 09, 2015, 05:58:40 PM
#20
i see the site more slow now, already for login, but my account is safe for now  Grin
newbie
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December 09, 2015, 05:24:59 PM
#19
I am from Turkey and I receive 405 not allowed error when I try to login. What does this mean?
sr. member
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December 09, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
#18
I used it many times without problems so I highly doubt that it is a scam. Also it's registered with Xapo Wallet which is one of their payment processors. As far as I know Xapo has strict KYC rules and you need to verify your identity before using it, so IMO Farm satoshi is legit, for now anyway.
legendary
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December 09, 2015, 05:21:32 PM
#17
I have earlier said that i was content with the site, profitable and so on. But this evening my account is suspended (breach of T&C) I have done nothing else than i did the past 6 month!


This is very strange, i have one question, you use adblock ? Because in the last 2-3 month i see when use adblock, one text "please disable adblock or your account can is suspended, later i have used farmsatoshi only to chrome
legendary
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Designer - Developer
December 09, 2015, 05:20:35 PM
#16
Honestly I can't really feel bad for you folks after having bought into such a thing such as that. It is not a legit investment, Merely a ploy to ponzi until it collapses and then they stop paying people out and run with the pot. Its the oldest trick in the book around these parts basically.

I would defintely report them to any lists on the forums that have ponzis that are currently running and maybe attempt to contact the administrator.
The odd time you might get lucky and the guy is working on it.. Sadly I don't think this is the case here though.
hero member
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December 09, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
#15
I was on level 25 since about a month. There is no more reinvestment possible, so I started withdrawing all my earnings, about 80000 satoshis a day. On saturday my account was suspended when I was ordering a withdrawal, allegedly for violating t&Cs. Since I'm not aware of any such violation, I mailed them asking for an explanation twice (inmediately and after 2 days again), and got no answer.

So my conclusion is that they are selectively getting rid of non profitable accounts (for them).


move this topic (or ask to a moderator) in the right section: scam accusations.

then … how much you have invested?
you get at least some % of profit or your money back?

I hope you don't lost so much and the next time withdraw before they stop reinvestment selling.
newbie
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December 09, 2015, 05:09:11 PM
#14
I said scam because I invested a lot of time, months, to reach level 25, and after a couple of withdrawals they closed my account. No investment asked, right, but time is money anyway. Any faucet would have given me much more.
legendary
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December 09, 2015, 03:04:34 PM
#13
I have earlier said that i was content with the site, profitable and so on. But this evening my account is suspended (breach of T&C) I have done nothing else than i did the past 6 month!


suspicous. It makes me think if I should stop using it as well...  Huh Huh Huh
hero member
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December 09, 2015, 02:51:10 PM
#12
I have earlier said that i was content with the site, profitable and so on. But this evening my account is suspended (breach of T&C) I have done nothing else than i did the past 6 month!
legendary
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December 09, 2015, 11:23:35 AM
#11
I'm to level 24 from more month (for 25 i get win speed game but is impossible for me) and received a payment every 2-3 day to xapo without problem. the only problem is withdraw with faucetbox
legendary
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December 09, 2015, 11:14:27 AM
#10
I called it from the start... I think it's the same people who ran chickencoins and Golden cows... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-chickencoinscom-not-paying-any-more-795224 .... I dunno why it was not

reported to http://www.badbitcoin.org/index.htm yet? How many of these Ponzi's do we need to see, before we believe that these are scams?

Just move on... It's not worth pursuing the truth about these sites... They pop up like mushrooms and dissapear like the mist.  Angry
legendary
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December 09, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
#9
I was one of the first 1000 members of farmsatoshi, used it for a week, then quit because the referrals never got credited to my account.

well this right here means they are cheating? from the first week?

maybe scam is not right word but they not do what they promise

and poor tech support is not same as NO TECH SUPPORT

i mean see their forum. they have 1 moderator who says "I can't delete spam threads because not enough permissions" and that's it
a moderator without even moderator rights. and when someone asks about anything serious he says he doesn't know. and he himself had no contact from game admin for months (or years?)

my situation is this: sometimes they pay me sometimes no. when no, they still say "sent satoshi to your xapo" no error no anything

if they just told me I violated ToS I would've been much happier really!!! at least then I know I can waste my time elsewhere but they play games with me

also, consider this: they have 1000 registrations per day or similar (see their "regisitered" on main page. then see it tomorrow). they are VERY popular. they can delete players left and right and not care

If I am right then Farmsatoshi had the gamevault logo in the beginning..now there is no logo, just TOS. A new site similar to farmsatoshi was launched recently, cannonsatoshi, under gamevault, no logo now.

They are indeed popular, just search farmsatoshi and a handful of farmsatoshi strategy pops up.

Deleting referrals and not approving it is a wastege of the effort we put in getting these referrals, but deleting the main account altogether without any reason does not make any sense.

1 moderator...I guess the admin is only relying on 25 level members who control the chat.

Time is money.
full member
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December 09, 2015, 09:43:10 AM
#8
I was one of the first 1000 members of farmsatoshi, used it for a week, then quit because the referrals never got credited to my account.

well this right here means they are cheating? from the first week?

maybe scam is not right word but they not do what they promise

and poor tech support is not same as NO TECH SUPPORT

i mean see their forum. they have 1 moderator who says "I can't delete spam threads because not enough permissions" and that's it
a moderator without even moderator rights. and when someone asks about anything serious he says he doesn't know. and he himself had no contact from game admin for months (or years?)

my situation is this: sometimes they pay me sometimes no. when no, they still say "sent satoshi to your xapo" no error no anything

if they just told me I violated ToS I would've been much happier really!!! at least then I know I can waste my time elsewhere but they play games with me

also, consider this: they have 1000 registrations per day or similar (see their "regisitered" on main page. then see it tomorrow). they are VERY popular. they can delete players left and right and not care
legendary
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December 09, 2015, 09:32:00 AM
#7
Wow, this is the first time I came across a "Farmsatoshi scam thread". I was one of the first 1000 members of farmsatoshi, used it for a week, then quit because the referrals never got credited to my account. Like the OP mentioned:

1. Poor overall support
2. I did receive my farm earnings without any delay, Xapo only, never tried FaucetBox, do not know the situation now.
3. Yeah, the TOS is based on their own convenience. I had referred some of my friends, no scam, not bot, no VPS, nothing, but still they were not approved.

I do not think farmsatoshi is a scam. First of all, their concept is very much similar to scam sites like goldencow, coinminer etc, but they are not aksing users to invest anything out of their pocket, just the time.

Since this thread has been created, lets wait and see if more complaints pour in. Hope this site does not turn out to be a scam Smiley
full member
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December 09, 2015, 08:51:38 AM
#6
I want to write about them in my blog had no time to do it but here is my quick summation of farmsatoshi situation

- there is no tech. support (at all)
- sometimes they don't pay out
- you are lucky if you got suspended for breaching ToS, at least IT IS SOMETHING or any kind of error message at all
- other players just receive "yay, withdrawn 10000 satoshi to your XAPO", and get nothing

make of that what you want.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
December 09, 2015, 06:30:31 AM
#5
I have no problems with Farmsatoshi, every two-three days i do xapo withdraw 100,000 satoshi. I am on level 25 and visit farmsatoshi two times a day to maintain the farm.
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