Topic: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Fast and serious loan and refinancing service: Gunthar 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 - page 4. (Read 28305 times)

The general rule of no collateral-no loan is still valid for loan amounts that are clearly close to the selling price of the account itself. I do suggest to contact my friend LoneShark: he got a nice service where you can still use your account while on collateral.
Thanks!
~Gun

Hi i requesting a loan without collateral i hope that you can grant me for loan and give me 2 weeks to repay this loan..

Loan Amount: 0.035
Signed message from a staked address: Yes check sign message below thanks..
Amount to be repaid: 0.038
Repayment Date: 23/01/2017
Bitcoin Address: 144r1LAbQrniaCwd8xJneteqRA3cqkvWgC
Collateral: N/A


Sign message: This is john2231 asking for loan today is january 9,2017
Old bitcoin address: 18GLXTqJUcQDZptyxMpQgwn71a4jqM3B6u
Signature: IJI4SeODkDbvBmcVZYxdgLCoCvlIbYqgO3T5b1uD5DUOS28cSMFibz9hO71A5PX78occ2VrpNzeuWzC L3ttjnUE=

Give 2 weeks or early i will pay my loan thanks.. i hope that you can grant my request.. thanks.

Update: this loan already funded with ralle14

That's bad man...denied

Loan Amount: 0.025
Signed message from a staked address: no old enough address (i did not even have any addresses here before i think)
Amount to be repaid: 0.03
Repayment Date: 23.01.2017
Bitcoin Address: 1ETYMARmNow5BgWnFB8yb4NHHaHWHuXhrn
Collateral: this account

As other lenders told you already, your account cant be accepted as collateral at this moment.
Thanks for asking tho.
~Gun

Thanks for asking. Anyway i dont see a lot of trades with your account nor a consistent amount of trust/feedback so i cant accept yoru account as collateral. If you have any other collateral like altcoins, i might reconsider this loan
~Gun

Loan Amount: 0.02
Signed message from a staked address

Edit forgot the message:

"This is me Realchlorum 1NzJ8z45c9e5BhArQ4z7Y3fyAjoUDiiXvV"

IDaFCCxh7CJbQBTdyrl9eKWWwh72TDQ/1RITM4uOk1X0ZRDVJk+oKUbnWmbaSPZh8WSi+UcVM5OhUCcgoUEfV/A=

Amount to be repaid:0.023
Repayment Date: 09.01.17
Bitcoin Address: 1NzJ8z45c9e5BhArQ4z7Y3fyAjoUDiiXvV
Collateral: My Account

loan Amount: 0.005
Reason for Taking out a Loan:  Personal
Amount to be repaid: 0.006Repayment Date: January 08, 2017
Type of Collateral: This btc account 
Bitcoin Address: 1AqHYXef1tQzXpkE69ZpuK4JunCjXjCzsX
lLl

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I am May Deguzman from bitcointalk.org, today is 01/06/2017. I am asking for a loan with my account craZyLove0916 as collateral.


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1AqHYXef1tQzXpkE69ZpuK4JunCjXjCzsX
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The analytics image was from another project, actually.

Anyway, I appreciate your input guys. Thanks

PS: I may put it up for sale on a thread, so let's see how that goes

Look at all those views... and they're gone.

Ok, here's where you are coming from. "Buying leads" and "buying redirected traffic". Which means your website does not really have value. What has value is the redirects you buy. You don't actually get traffic but buy them. Thus, what you are selling is really worthless. Lets make an illustration.

Bought traffic -> your website -> profit
No bought traffic -> your website -> no profit.

If your website is generating its own traffic, here's what happens

Real traffic + redirected traffi -> website -> profit
real traffic + no redirects -> website -> profit

The thing is, your business is not automatically generating anything because you are just buying the traffic through whatever seo method. What you are really offering is your domain as collateral. You can't really offer as collateral your business. Because the moment someone accepts your business as collateral, what you can do is just move on to another domain and just buy traffic again and redirect it to your "new" website. In short, your domain name is expendable.

Technically, the lender has no hold on your business. What we could take hold is your domain. Think about it like this, if you're offering as collateral is AMAZON.COM. If a lender will get hold of the domain it will result to the whole business of amazon. Since, amazon needs that domain name. Without it, they will have to start over again from scratch using another name.

If you can generate 15k of ROI in 20 days (which total amount would be 110.20BTC in 20 days...) you can do it without my help, if you need a professional maker to do that on your behalf, i'm open to be hired.

Apparently you need a better marketing team too: you just self-admitted this is a sale

This is a huge marketing mistake: even if someone was interested to "save" your company, you clearly show you dont even have faith in it.

It is not how it works, sorry: your very unprofessional behaviour of "using" profits generated with one company to "feed" another company, shows your company is just a low-level one-man-show company that doesnt even think about "how" to reinvest their very own money (to what concerns to me, you could have spent those claimed "profits" to just buy you and your girlfriend a nice week-end in Paris...and yes i am able to spend 100kUSD in one week-end in Paris...if you wanna know how, i'm open to be hired)

Verdict: thanks for bumping my thread!

~Gun

By the way Loan SHark,

If you still think I'm a scammer.

Let me show you the stats of a site that generated more than 3 million unique visitors through SEO.



Now, cars-insurances.com is not ranked and as most leads are bought from several lead sellers, is a good understanding that it doesn't have much traffic.

Hey Lone Shark

Let me settle some things about the business and why I am asking for the loan.

1. The site is not ranked in Google, no SEO done. It doesn't generate traffic from search engines. The small traffic that comes to the site is bought from Native Advertising Networks. This traffic is sent to a funnel of pages, usually called landing pages or advertorials. This traffic then converts as leads at a 2% conversion rate on average.

2. Buying traffic to our site is around 15% of revenue. We don't only buy traffic to our site, but buy leads from lead sellers such as AllWebleads and other providers. Buying leads is where most of our profit comes from (85% of leads are bought from suppliers; 15% are generated by buying traffic). Each lead costs us around $12 and we sell them to 8 different companies. Each company receives each lead we buy and generate and they pay us anywhere from $1 through $4 per lead, making us profit by selling each lead multiple times.

3. The roi is around 60%. So even though we make around $25k monthly on revenue, we only profit around $14k or so.

4. With the past 10 months or so of profit from this, I started a supplement business which capital has been invested in supplements and relabeling (Private Labels) and a lot of documents to legally ship them to our customers.

5. The loan is asked as the coming few weeks are the best time to promote weight loss products and I would like to leverage the auto insurance business to have a bigger loan than that of what a bank would give me. Right now I've got a $25k budget only for this supplement business which is being spent as we speak, though I would like to increase my budget by asking for a loan.

I believe I made a lot of points clear, though if you still have any doubts Loan Shark, let me know. I'm happy to clear things out

This guy has been spamming the whole lending section. If your business is really legit, why not just work on the loan amount you need? You said it earns $300,000 a year. We call bullshit on your said lead generation business. You said you sell each lead at $36 (selling to multiple companies). I don't think insurance companies will pay that much money for just a lead acquired from the internet. Calculating it, you need 10,000 leads a year. Your website does not even generate that much traffic a year. How could you even generate that much leads? Your statements don't add up. Your website is pretty much garbage that doesn't really get attention on the internet. If Google "car insurance," I don't think your website will show up within the next 100 pages of google.


Tell us again, how do you generate those leads?

Hey Gunthar,

What do you think of this loan? (link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17378279 )

Would you be able to take it?

Let me know.

Filled https://blockchain.info/it/tx/5dd743b96e0878f8d3e1810e05b1016b2e7c1ac99d6240417545737b431d8b76
Please repay 0.0825BTC before 7 January 2017 to 37dickWvBcop534XFZDdBiHWuk98bCUYdu
Happy New Year!
~Gun

Can we do another?

Confirmed tx!
~Gun

https://blockchain.info/tx/a2d9df150ffe13f4a8ec011d891f4d8688cad2814a9d8de02b3a3ad4c23c0024

repaid thx

Message verified with core, collateral secured and loan filled https://blockchain.info/it/tx/1d60dc47a4c53c4f9cf7a4a2cb3e142775f2bfadf6b541d6e62a4c8d2c0b7faf
Please repay 0.02BTC before 10 January 2017 to 37dickWvBcop534XFZDdBiHWuk98bCUYdu
Thanks for using my service
~Gun