Topic: FAUCET BOTS (Read 1863 times)

Hmmm where do I start?

Ok... I guess there are "scammers" in all categories. I'm not surprised that some faucets are run in an unscrupulous manner . There are crooks everywhere ...sure.....That's life unfortunately!

Yes ...There are quite a few faucets that are indeed self /constructed/managed and many use a weekly payment regime with thresholds.  They generally use very specific  custom scripts Like your BOOMFAUCET( probably wrote them themselves) and they manage their own payment system. Another that comes to mind Is ( is/was?) Milli at 99bitcoins . The guy who ran that one , OFIR ...BTW...is a very honest and helpful guy! ( go to his site ...he has LOADS of faucet info)

However , a lot of faucets ...quite a lot actually ... use one of a number of standardized scripts that admins mod themselves which in turn rely on the use of a micro-payment management company ...like faucetinabox for instance.These admins are not verifying 1000's of payments themselves, that's done automatically through interaction between the micro-payment system and the script supplied by faucetinabox and installed on the admins server.

I'm not sure how a payment system using paypal would work ...or if many people would want to participate . One of the Principals/ features/ attributes of Bitcoin payments is anonymity...not to mention decentralization. So if you reverted to a Paypal type payment option you would really be subverting both.

Wrt to "keeping the faucet online" and "noticing users about financial issues"  I think you might be referring to recent issues with the We love faucets scripted sites ...Playbtc being one of these . It appears that We love faucets ...the mirco payment service... actually had issues ...not the Playbtc faucet itself.  I personally don't believe that the Admin of Playbtc "kept his site online " In  a deliberate attempt  to scam people into coming to his "page" without having to give them a reward. I would say the Admin just hadn't noticed ...

Quite honestly if my payment provider "broke down" i probably wouldn't disable my site either. I'd simply wait for them to come back up ...If i even noticed. You just don't monitor faucet status 24/7 ...you know ! To a certain extent, its a case of set and forget.....But ...because of all these assholes and their bots ...you need to check it pretty regularly ...i personally check mine  2 or 3 times a day,

Look ..I'm happy to give you a list of very good faucets in PM ...including my own ( the BEST FAUCET EVER!!!)...that I am very confidant can be trusted and will operate in a manner  which should suit you ...let me know if you'd like it.
I wont post it here as i believe that would be considered off subject and unethical  

@ getrichquack
I guess i might never start a faucet because right now i even don't know how to identify a bot  
How about the scammer admins which are avoiding to pay real members with the excuse : "oh, i'm sorry i'm out of funds because of the bots!" ?
I've seen to many scams and scammers that even if you pay me, i can't trust a website even if its managed by Obama himself. The best reliable thing is own payment proof.
 So i say it's not just a war between admins and bots but there is another war going on : members vs. scammer admins which not many people realise about this too.
From what i read the bots are attracted by the faucets with funds. How about a faucet with 0 real money funds and paying once a week after approval/check account activity direct to wallet ? I think there are faucets which are using this technique such as boomfaucet. I have reached the 17th payment since july. The admin is trusted so far because is always paying.
. It takes to much to verify 10000 members to pay them ? well you are the admin, you wanted a faucet , deal with it ,you will have to check 10000 members if you want to earn money, you will have to click on 10000 members to verify just as those 10000 members are clicking for a f**ing 10 satoshi   so being admin it's not for lazy kids   Nowadays kids with a laptop can open a faucet/hyip/ptc from their house basement   and i would gladly vote for opening a website and being a member only with the ID card or with the paypal account Once someone did something wrong paypal could trace and take legal actions. No more bots,no more Tor(only for Wikileaks to expose corruption) , no more scammers ,everyone is happy At this stage internet needs a bit dictatorship to clean the scums .
But the weekly payments at 15k-20k gives possibility to the admins to easily become scammers. Especially when they are not noticing members about financial issues and keep faucet online such as playbtc (welovefaucets).
And yes,felicita is right, disable register from time to time for bot check is a good choice too.

hell yeah i also noticed since the middle of august a massiv bot register on my faucet.
Becourse of many bot accounts (+500) and even some proxy cheaters i had to close register untill i find a good solution to block all bots -.-




kind regards

Look man ...you can tell the difference between a user that claims a lot and persistently... and a bot. You just have to to compare the Micro payment  agents records to the logs on your server .
 
A lot of Bots these days are "cleverly" designed to change IP and wallet address's on every attempt, but with some rudimentary investigation you can usually identify an offending IP range ...

I can tell you pal... bots most certainly do exist !!...case in point:  the infamous DEPOT DATA CENTER  ( look them up)

The indigence you are demonstrating through having to solve annoying captchas and anti-bot measures is better directed at the parasites that create these things in the first place ...Not the poor faucet owners!! Quite honestly, If it wasn't for these Bots/cheats/thieves you could claim un-impeded till "the cows came home" and smaller faucets would happily risk higher payouts .

In fact ...You are the very sort of person that genuine faucet operators want on their sites. Believe me, they are not happy about having to apply all of these bot counter measures.They are as much a pain in the ass for them as they are for the users and they understand only too well that you want to claim quickly and move on ....They want you to !  

Another significant problem for faucet operators  is that the bots also affect faucet revenue .

Faucets owners rely on the advertising impressions and click throughs from faucet users...like you. Thats what makes the faucet money.  But...most bots are only designed to solve captures and "sometimes"  defeat anti-bot measures ( if they're lucky) , but  never to actually load the full web page, Thereby facilitating a saving of labor on the part of the bot user and a more rapid growth in the bot users takings.

The problem here is that the Faucet owners not only loose coin through the  operation of the faucet , but then  also fail to receive any revenue for a visit to the site , because the advertiser doesn't record any impression . So they get "whacked" twice.

I personally witnessed one attack where a bot attached,  took from the faucet and then took a referral cut  and then changed IP and Wallet address ...defeating the timers ...and repeated this every 3 seconds... The advertisers didn't even register any traffic through the site.
Fortunately, it was identified quickly, but the faucet operator had to pull the whole site down and remove his balance  to end the attack

In fact ....I've actually seen and known faucet operators who have been driven OOB by these things.

In some cases they may be destroying a small family business operated by people who are struggling to pay bills (like you) and simply looking for a supplementary income to feed their kids( like you ). Honestly, how do they justify doing that ...just because they can?  Because they're Ego's are more important than that families livelihood?.... Seriously?

Even if they were to just build bots that allowed the faucet operators to collect CPI/CPC  revenues,  they'd still be ripping off the advertisers, who are paying for real people, like you to look at... or at least see... their ads.

Also ...FYI ...Ad sense has withdrawn support for faucets recently...yet another slap in the face for Honest faucet operators.

So man ...I'm sorry... but your attitude is just wrong and Faucet admins are NOT paranoid ...this is literally a war, between honest small business people who are simply trying to make extra money  and unscrupulous thieves who don't care what they have to do to accumulate BTC.

I get that its frustrating for you , but direct your annoyance at the people who deserve it ...please.    

99% of the faucet admin don't realise some things which may look like a bot invasion over the faucets but in fact it's not really :

1. With all the PTCs scams more people are moving to faucets (to the serious and paying ones with decent claims) in fact even me i prefer to advertise  faucet ref link instead of a PTC ref link.
2. The global poverty and job missing opportunities,are increasing, more and more people are coming and trying to earn some money from internet (specially from poor countries).
3. The are unemployed people, like me, who has lots of free time to keep visiting and claiming on faucets all day long (a paranoid faucet admin might confuse me/us with a bot because i have time to claim all day long). Also there could be people on a wheel chair or with an incurable disease.
4. If the faucet claims are fast i mean not to many captchas to solve for few satoshi then of course i will stay and claim otherwise i will leave the faucet because its NOT WORTH THE TIME (and electricity used by computer) to solve half a day captchas for few hundreds satoshis. Real humans can leave also if there are to many captchas but faucet admins will beleive that he get rid of bots with to much captchas but in fact admins are losing also real people.
5. If a faucet admin gets paranoid about bots then he should shut down the faucet and try to earn money from something else (such as affiliation) with his domain .
6. I dont say that bots doesnt exist , i do not know , i'm not expert in computers , bots, hackers, dos attacks are a real risk on internet and once you open a website you need to be aware of them as admin but dont get paranoid on real people, the more layers on captchas added the better the chance to lose real people and of course traffic decreases. Use a clever captcha such as 3d captcha or the rotating images.
7. There are faucets with 4 levels of captchas ...do you think i'm gonna join and claim there ? NEVER because i don't wanna lose all my day just for solving captchas. That means i'm a bot if i don't join there ? If yes then you are getting paranoid and you need to shut down your faucet  
8. I do support serious and decent paying faucets by clicking once a day on an adsense spot (not more than once or twice so they don't get banned by google).
Getyourbitco.in/ has changed captchas and introduced 1 more level , that's fine because has decent claims but 1 more captcha if they'll add i'll leave their faucet for good. Already time to solve their captchas has increased.

Not all i guess but this list is good , i know he can still improve it and kill also those biggest server you are saying. I am also an advocate of stopping and killing those bots because it is so annoying and painful in our faucets

What's your faucet's site? I would play it if my IP's not blocked. I don't mind signing up for weekly withdraws, if the faucet was trusted (like moonbitco.in)

As for the captchas, I don't know if it works against bots, but there's this one faucet (I wish i could remember it), but it's one that's a daily claim, and before you can even access the main page of its site, there's a quiz, and it has a random sentence and/or structure of words that could or could not make sense. Something like: "I ate two pieces of toast. I played with one ball, and whistled 4 times" and the question will be something like "Which one is the food?" That's not exactly how it goes, but it's something like that; unique, and hard for bots, imo, to break through. Sometimes you have to answer quizzes two times. I really like this type of antibot.

Antibot links are much better than php CAPTCHA because users only need to click with mouse on links but in php CAPTCHA user has to solve mathematical puzzle.
if you use Antibot links in proper way you can keep bots away from your faucet.

ok guys thank to everyone who replied.

does anyone tried php captcha? I see nowdays many faucet owners are using it. It can be implemented as the second captcha instead of anti-bot links. what do you think?

me too ..

yeah i know how to check tor exit nodes

Thanks iam allways happy to add some isps to my badlist
iam from germany so its bad that i forgot hetzner its a germany company XD

for tor exit notes its easy to check !!!
https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=$server_adress&port=$port



thanks and kind regards

nice list .. but what is with

example:
Name:    ec2-52-17-6-136.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com
Address:  52.17.6.136
Type: Elite-Proxy
 
what i whould like to say .. you ban the almost biggest Server Provider like HostEurope ..but not amazonaws ? .. also a lot of vps/tor exit nodes are hostet at Hetzner

Exactly. What is to stop bot developers downloading the deafult antibot script, seeing the answers and adding them to their bots.

antibot links are very useful but this antbot script works properly only when you use different puzzle for example special character in puzzles for each question.
if you use default antibot script for faucet than sorry t's very easy for faucets and no body can help you in that situation.

developers of that bots was damn to good i guess. Captcha system is starting to get pointless because of this bots i have experienced also this kind of problem when i started my first faucet and went dry within a  week so i decided to just stop working on it and wait..

Guys, I had studied how to stop faucet bots.

So, I developed a technique which blocked at least 80% of bots and scammers users (VPNs, Proxies, etc) in ny faucet.

It consists in two techniques combinated: Checking Malicious IPs and using Honeypots.

So, I created a database with more than 40k bad IPs related to bitcoin attacks. I started to collect malicious bitcoin address recently and I got/blocked more than 1000 addresses in a week with my technique.

Soon, I want to launch a cheap service where faucets can use my security system to check and block payments to scammers and bots. It must be ready in less than one month.

For this, I am looking for a faucet owner to help me testing the service for free. I just need someone with basic knowledge in PHP.

Send me a PM if you are interested.

iam figthing untill my faucets starts against bots and vpn users
my faucet is now free from VPn and Proxys i banned them all per isp!

here are my banned isp array(all VPN ips):


kind regards

Funcaptcha was good solution to stop bots, but now it costs $35. It's too expensive for faucet owners, and no one can afford to use it in faucet.

I can confirm that the bots are becoming better every day. The only thing I've found to stop them is to control payments manually.

I have the weekly payout system. It gets rid of bots because they don't get the payment and go away. It's not perfect though, because I think a lot of users who don't read the faucet rules get the impression the faucet is not paying at all, so my user count is low...
But maybe if you'd employ a daily payout it would be enough.

What helps too is to use custom built scripts (no one would make a bot specific to your faucet).

I'm developing a new custom CLAIM script that I think will filter out bots. I'll post here when it's done and send it via pm to anyone who will be interested in testing it.

Solvemedia is useless too, there are also bots that can solve solvemedia's captcha.

This is a one good security solution, but funcaptcha is not free as far as I know now.