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Topic: Faucet, casino, mixer, currency exchanger etc. all in one [NOW ALIVE!] (Read 466 times)

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legendary
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The closest I've ever seen this were two brands I actually used. The first is Yobit, which was an exchange foremost, with inbuilt faucets and a dice game -- I believe it still has these options today.

The second was MonsterByte, which was actually BitcoinRush (a full-fledged casino and sportsbook), MoneyPot (yes, the famous global bankroll across casinos that they acquired and turned into a multi-crypto wallet) and Nessie (which was an exchange). This was probably the best actual product I've seen that did all three seriously.

Presumably, if you did the exchange and casino well enough, it acts as a sort of mixer in any case? Pretty hard to implement these days unless you wanted to straddle regulations (gambling and exchanging these days being regulated).
newbie
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I will be one of yours! In many years in crypto I have never seen a platform that offers as many services as yours because at the same time many players / investors will be able to meet their needs, I am curious to see if it will be sustainable and scalable, certainly a great challenge for admin.
Good luck!
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I like the idea of combining multiple services into a single one kudos to you. I got to say the graphics aren't that good tho I wonder.

For business reasons we decided to not share here any screenshot showing the actual website name nor its real graphics so we'd still rather use the alpha version as reference.
newbie
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I like the idea of combining multiple services into a single one kudos to you. I got to say the graphics aren't that good tho I wonder.
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We wanted to inform you that official start date could be 20th March.
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Nothing against you at all, I think the concept is really interesting.

However, how do you plan on competing against freebitco.in? Is it solely based off the fact that you guys are able to offer coin mixing services while freebitco.in sticks to just faucet and dice?

Because I feel like people who claim the faucet regularly wouldn't really be interested in exchanging their coins for alts per se, nor do they have the need to mix their coins. Whilst people who have a need for mixing large amounts of coins would simply do so on a large coin mixer like Chipmixer or whatnot.

The house edges are definitely more attractive it seems than Freebitco.in, but it's hard to compete when they've got so much of the faucet market share already.

1. Our house edge is smaller than freebitco.in as you said.
2. We will offer higher faucet rewards in order to build much HYPE in the very beginning - we will then reduce the rewards to match our actual revenue from ads.
3. The marketing strategy was already planned however I do not want to disclose it because it is not the case to do it in public but I can guarantee you we have the money and the knowledge to attract many of their users as well.
Marketing would really do the job when it comes to exposure but be sure that your site would really be worth to look at.Same as said above
where this thing or concept is somewhat interesting but having that all-in-one site will really used or considered by most users on this crypto market.
Each category do have its own corresponding top competitor in talks of mixer,exchange,casino and faucet.Plans on hyping it isnt bad but better
focus on giving out the best service as possible and this might give out some spark which is more better than hyping.
Any tentative schedules for this site to be launched?

We have been working hard on making each service we offer the best, this is why it already took us quite long time to make it. One of the hardest challenges was scaling the websockets in order to provide reliable real time services for the best experience possible with no overloads / queued requests and server responses. We did even invest a lot of money in data centers and DDoS mitigation servers for the highest uptime possible.
No doubt we know what we are doing and we now just seek for user's support to keep us going  Smiley

We lately set mid March as deadline... Fingers crossed!
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Nothing against you at all, I think the concept is really interesting.

However, how do you plan on competing against freebitco.in? Is it solely based off the fact that you guys are able to offer coin mixing services while freebitco.in sticks to just faucet and dice?

Because I feel like people who claim the faucet regularly wouldn't really be interested in exchanging their coins for alts per se, nor do they have the need to mix their coins. Whilst people who have a need for mixing large amounts of coins would simply do so on a large coin mixer like Chipmixer or whatnot.

The house edges are definitely more attractive it seems than Freebitco.in, but it's hard to compete when they've got so much of the faucet market share already.

1. Our house edge is smaller than freebitco.in as you said.
2. We will offer higher faucet rewards in order to build much HYPE in the very beginning - we will then reduce the rewards to match our actual revenue from ads.
3. The marketing strategy was already planned however I do not want to disclose it because it is not the case to do it in public but I can guarantee you we have the money and the knowledge to attract many of their users as well.
Marketing would really do the job when it comes to exposure but be sure that your site would really be worth to look at.Same as said above
where this thing or concept is somewhat interesting but having that all-in-one site will really used or considered by most users on this crypto market.
Each category do have its own corresponding top competitor in talks of mixer,exchange,casino and faucet.Plans on hyping it isnt bad but better
focus on giving out the best service as possible and this might give out some spark which is more better than hyping.
Any tentative schedules for this site to be launched?
copper member
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Nothing against you at all, I think the concept is really interesting.

However, how do you plan on competing against freebitco.in? Is it solely based off the fact that you guys are able to offer coin mixing services while freebitco.in sticks to just faucet and dice?

Because I feel like people who claim the faucet regularly wouldn't really be interested in exchanging their coins for alts per se, nor do they have the need to mix their coins. Whilst people who have a need for mixing large amounts of coins would simply do so on a large coin mixer like Chipmixer or whatnot.

The house edges are definitely more attractive it seems than Freebitco.in, but it's hard to compete when they've got so much of the faucet market share already.

1. Our house edge is smaller than freebitco.in as you said.
2. We will offer higher faucet rewards in order to build much HYPE in the very beginning - we will then reduce the rewards to match our actual revenue from ads.
3. The marketing strategy was already planned however I do not want to disclose it because it is not the case to do it in public but I can guarantee you we have the money and the knowledge to attract many of their users as well.
hero member
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Nothing against you at all, I think the concept is really interesting.

However, how do you plan on competing against freebitco.in? Is it solely based off the fact that you guys are able to offer coin mixing services while freebitco.in sticks to just faucet and dice?

Because I feel like people who claim the faucet regularly wouldn't really be interested in exchanging their coins for alts per se, nor do they have the need to mix their coins. Whilst people who have a need for mixing large amounts of coins would simply do so on a large coin mixer like Chipmixer or whatnot.

The house edges are definitely more attractive it seems than Freebitco.in, but it's hard to compete when they've got so much of the faucet market share already.
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"Last Man Standing" game follows next…  Smiley

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Just wanted to update you with an overview of our dice game:



We did stop coding the matrix program because we find it quite useless at the very beginning.
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Other than combining multiple services in your platform, what are other innovations you going to bring in? Because, just being all-under-one-roof kind of business model alone will not be attractive enough to me to leave off my current favorite services.

I do use selective services which are rated as the best by this community in therms of easy-to use, highly secured, good customer support and etc. This may be the reason, for example, I am not playing at yobit's dice but I do trade few token there. I mean to say I need segment expert and versatile service provider which may not be possible when you focus at multiple things from your beginning itself because jack of all trades, master of none.

I don’t really see many websites offering several services all in one.
The whole idea took us already 2 years of development (excluding the years of research) because we have real jobs so we could not complete it in let’s say 6 months at the time unless working 24/7 on it, otherwise we could already have a well established unique website by now.
At this point there’s not much we can do except experimenting it ‘cause it’s a pity to junk such big project.

I mean, sites like Bitsler can already be used as all of the above.

However, the rates that they offer on currency exchanges as well as the lack of actual mixing mechanisms is what is preventing them from calling themselves an actual all-in-one solution that you're proposing.

I'm just wondering how you're going to be able to bankroll this site, and have that initial jolt of funding to kickstart it.

We already have a starting capital to finance all of this, however we got some doubts on casino’s bankroll since it’s kinda impossible to predict what could be our involved risk.
This is why we developed a smart algorithm that will accept investments from users which shall be used to increase the bankroll as mentioned in first post.
hero member
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I mean, sites like Bitsler can already be used as all of the above.

However, the rates that they offer on currency exchanges as well as the lack of actual mixing mechanisms is what is preventing them from calling themselves an actual all-in-one solution that you're proposing.

I'm just wondering how you're going to be able to bankroll this site, and have that initial jolt of funding to kickstart it.
legendary
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Other than combining multiple services in your platform, what are other innovations you going to bring in? Because, just being all-under-one-roof kind of business model alone will not be attractive enough to me to leave off my current favorite services.

I do use selective services which are rated as the best by this community in therms of easy-to use, highly secured, good customer support and etc. This may be the reason, for example, I am not playing at yobit's dice but I do trade few token there. I mean to say I need segment expert and versatile service provider which may not be possible when you focus at multiple things from your beginning itself because jack of all trades, master of none.
legendary
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Hello everyone,
I've been observing BitcoinTalk since 2014 but never posted before, probably because at the time I still was in the learning process I guess.
In the meantime me and a couple of friends coded from scratch the "WZ Platform" (I don't yet wanna disclose the full name) which is basically a huge collection of services created by us such as faucet, casino games, lottery, advertising network, mixer, currency exchanger and much more.
This platform will accept several currencies starting from the most popular ones: Bitcoin, Litecoin and Dogecoin that will also be available on the faucet. (probably the first ones to do that?)
Since our budget may not cover casino's potential big losses we decided to introduce bankroll investments for those interested in investing in our casino throughout a smart algorithm that calculates how much money is required to keep us going so it distributes the dividends accordingly until the user receives back the original invested amount + X net profit.
Do you think it may work/succeed? What's your thoughts?

I'm leaving here some screenshots taken from current alpha version:

We have to see it first before we can tell that it is going to succeed, we need many Cryptocurrency related projects and websites no wand if yours will serve a sector of our community, then it will be welcome, we only shunned projects, whose intention is to only scam investors and just want to set up a fly by night project.
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At first bitcoin mixer requires some capital, idk about you but mixers like bitmixer, cryptomixer and others had 2500 bitcoin as a capital. Seems you have very low amount of it so personally I suggest you to stick with one service instead of all and not being capable of doing anything. You can't beat gambling websites easily, the only great option that I see is to do following: Include chip system like chipmixer has and let people to bet with some chips or offer something like this: Provably fair fee where user's will have two option: Make their fee zero or pay double by playing dice or etc you know.
You can include currency exchange like shapeshift has, that won't be a problem.
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In a screenshot, I see a matrix feature. Is there a real product behind? I don't have a good opinion about matrix basically and I may be wrong of course but I see it as a weak point for your website

It's years since I have used a faucet but a 30% commission isn't a bit high (?) What about lowering it and increasing the reward instead?
I believe the competition is still quite important with the faucets so it will make your more attractive and so collecting more people for your userbase.

You got a good idea with your site, good luck


Yes, of course the matrix program will offer a real product for as low as 1 USD: rotative (small) ad texts placed all over the website for 1 week per matrix. ("ad pack")
So basically a quid-pro-quo program giving us 100% guaranteed profits.
Nowadays faucets give up to 50% claim commission that may obviously seem big to you but also consider those faucets pay their users little. Anyhow, I can discuss this with my team because it doesn't seem a bad idea lowering the commission in order to increase the faucet rewards especially in our scenario where we offer several multiple services, so more users are encouraged to spend their hard earned coins on other services offered by us since they actually earn way more in comparison to current faucet leaders.
What about selling referrals? I mean random picked up users without an upline/inviter, does it sound reasonable and realistic? If so what would be their sale price? Many users are usually inactive or stop using the website after a short time resulting the upline in losing his investment.
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In a screenshot, I see a matrix feature. Is there a real product behind? I don't have a good opinion about matrix basically and I may be wrong of course but I see it as a weak point for your website

It's years since I have used a faucet but a 30% commission isn't a bit high (?) What about lowering it and increasing the reward instead?
I believe the competition is still quite important with the faucets so it will make your more attractive and so collecting more people for your userbase.

You got a good idea with your site, good luck
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I forgot to mention the withdrawal fees:

  • Bitcoin -> 0.00001 BTC
  • Litecoin -> 0.0005 LTC
  • Dogecoin -> 50 DOGE

These values might be subject to periodic manual updates due the nature of cryptos price volatility though.
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