Topic: FBI pressured Muslims into committing terrorist acts, then arrested them - page 2. (Read 3191 times)

It's amazing how passive some of you are in regards to this kind of behaviour from governments regardless of whether the source is true or not, it speaks volumes about your political ideologies and your view of right and wrong.

Some people need to come here in France to see what happen when justice is permissive with them. I have great Arab friend but i has never buy their victimization and hypocrisy when they talk about politics.

Right.

Leave the country if they are not happy in US and Europe.

Muslim victimization again...

The US govt came up with a plot to blow up a synagogue and a US military base to make a terrorist out of a Muslim.
This sounds like an article from infowars. Crazy talk, not buying it.

It is amazing to see muslim Americans serve decades long sentences for plots they are enticed into. And see walking free the bundy ranch people, who targeted government agents with sniper rifiles; and radio broadcasters who actively encourage assassinating the sitting US President.
I know the world is not fair, but it hurts to see the wide disparity of treatment based solely on ethnic background.

That's an American way of "proving" how effective the FBI is, and it works because in this country, if you're Muslim, you're already guilty of terrorism as suspected and nobody gives a damn about you.
I'd like to say "Muslims are the new Blacks", but that would suggest Blacks are off the racist hook, and you and I both know that would be far from the truth.

Manufacturing terror to gain support for domestic and foreign policies that we would otherwise not support, sort of like the neocon new Pearl Harbor. Thank you government.

Gotta keep the people scared so they consume!!!

I doubt the legitimacy of the report. Even if FBI "encouraged" and "plotted" such events, the individual went ahead with execution. This means that the same individual could have been easily "encouraged"/"motivated" by a non-FBI agent too.

Legit reason to put someone behind bars. Btw, undercover operations are meant to bring out criminals from their sheds. They are a common practice to bust Drug lords, Prostitution etc.

Not saying that FBI has not been opressive. I don't buy the causal relationship indicated in the argument.

All to make the Bush look better than he ever could be in real life. This is a real scandal, not a made up ones like the GOP is doing to Obama.

This is tyranny.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/21/fbi-pressured-muslims-into-committing-terrorist-acts-then-arrested-them-report/

The FBI encouraged and sometimes even paid Muslims to commit terrorist acts during numerous sting operations after the 9/11 attacks, a human rights group said in a report published Monday.

“Far from protecting Americans, including American Muslims, from the threat of terrorism, the policies documented in this report have diverted law enforcement from pursuing real threats,” said the report by Human Rights Watch.

Aided by Columbia University Law School’s Human Rights Institute, Human Rights Watch examined 27 cases from investigation through trial, interviewing 215 people, including those charged or convicted in terrorism cases, their relatives, defense lawyers, prosecutors and judges.

“In some cases the FBI may have created terrorists out of law-abiding individuals by suggesting the idea of taking terrorist action or encouraging the target to act,” the report said.

In the cases reviewed, half the convictions resulted from a sting operation, and in 30 percent of those cases the undercover agent played an active role in the plot.

“Americans have been told that their government is keeping them safe by preventing and prosecuting terrorism inside the US,” said Andrea Prasow, the rights group’s deputy Washington director.

“But take a closer look and you realize that many of these people would never have committed a crime if not for law enforcement encouraging, pressuring and sometimes paying them to commit terrorist acts.”

US Attorney General Eric Holder has strongly defended the FBI undercover operations as “essential in fighting terrorism.”

“These operations are conducted with extraordinary care and precision, ensuring that law enforcement officials are accountable for the steps they take -– and that suspects are neither entrapped nor denied legal protections,” Holder said July 8 during a visit to Norway.

The HRW report, however, cites the case of four Muslim converts from Newburgh, New York who were accused of planning to blow up synagogues and attack a US military base.

A judge in that case “said the government ‘came up with the crime, provided the means, and removed all relevant obstacles,’ and had, in the process, made a terrorist out of a man ‘whose buffoonery is positively Shakespearean in scope,’” the report said.

The rights group charged that the FBI often targets vulnerable people, with mental problems or low intelligence.

It pointed to the case of Rezwan Ferdaus, who was sentenced to 17 years in prison at age 27 for wanting to attack the Pentagon and Congress with mini-drones loaded with explosives.

An FBI agent told Ferdaus’ father that his son “obviously” had mental health problems, the report said. But that didn’t stop an undercover agent from conceiving the plot in its entirety, it said.

“The US government should stop treating American Muslims as terrorists-in-waiting,” the report concluded.

Mike German, a former FBI agent now with the Brennan Center, said FBI counterterrorism excesses were a source of concern — “concerns that they both violate privacy and civil liberties, and aren’t effective in addressing real threats.”

But JM Berger, a national security expert, said law enforcement faces a dilemma: it can’t just ignore tips or reports about people talking about wanting to commit a terrorist action or seeking support for one.

“The question is how to sort out which cases merit investigation and which do not,” he said.