FBI wants backdoor to all software - page 3.

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Quote from: Dacm4n on June 06, 2013, 11:55:21 AM

Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

Americans are super lazy though. It'll take being rounded up and sent to a camp to wake them up.

It really isn't just that most of us are lazy (believe me we are) its that we don't have real alternatives. Being locked in a two party system, both of which are bought and paid for by corporate interests, means we fundamentally have 0 choice. Sure they differ on social wedge issues (gay marriage, immigration, abortion, gun control etc) but when it comes to foreign policy, corporate money in politics, the patriot act, Guantanamo, selling arms to US sponsored terrorists, etc they are all exactly the same. We elected Obama because he promised us change. What did he give us? More of the same old bullshit.

We got fed up with it and responded with The occupy movement, how did they react? by kicking us out and ignoring us. Rinse wash repeat and fuck the general populace.

When your entire government is bought and paid for by the 1% writing letters and calling your congressmen is pretty much useless.

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I believe, its more that; FBI wants a backdoor to all "Communications"

They want complete access to communication rather than software. Although, laws have already been passed and it's, of course, already happening.

http://rt.com/usa/confirmed-nsa-phone-records-330/

Kinda funny, there was a time when the "Safe thing" to do was store passwords on a computer. Now, we are BACK to the "safe thing" being paper. Bleh, seems the "safe thing" for communication may soon go BACK to verbal. (Lol, Doh, Sigh and Facepalm)

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Sounds totally illegal to me, maybe someone in a position of authority should tell them no. Next they will want a key to every locked physical door.

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Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

Americans are super lazy though. It'll take being rounded up and sent to a camp to wake them up.

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World Nut Daily? Not my first choice for reliable and unbiased reporting.

This was linked on the front page of Drudge.

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This has been happening since the dawn of software.

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This is ludacris. It will open more problems than it will fix.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I understand the FBI wants a backdoor on exchanges. The FBI can already look, like anyone, at blockchain.info and get all the info they want about any wallet and any transaction.

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Quote from: herzmeister on June 06, 2013, 10:54:18 AM

Quote from: Schrankwand on June 06, 2013, 10:42:03 AM

that is how apple does it and lately I heard an amusing story of complaint, since Apple acted in a security request and delivered the data from Apple imessage or how it is called. Of course, encrypted. And said "We don't have the means to encrypt this, but as you asked, here is the data you requested." "We can't read this." "Neither can we."

since when is apple with the cool kids again? Huh

they'll order them to remove encryption or provide a special key, simple as that.

Apple just neglected this. They made encryption, implemented a protocol where clients handshake and agree on the keys with each other and need no server side on this. I doubt they actually thought about this too much...

Removing encryption would probably violate 1000 federal standards.

Here is the problem: The moment you do that, your program is not secure anymore and the important customers, business, will stop using stuff. Apple's imessage might not be a problem, but I have had businesses refuse using skype due to MITM problems. So we used Ovoo or Silent Circle.

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Quote from: Rampion on June 06, 2013, 10:57:03 AM

Quote from: ProfMac on June 06, 2013, 10:42:13 AM

Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

The terrorist filled us with terror. We are acting scared, giving up hard won freedoms.

That shit is older than life. In Europe we know it very well. Just check what Strategy of Tension means - the US Government has used that tactic forever.

Just a hint on Wikipedia:

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The strategy of tension (Italian: strategia della tensione) is a tactic that aims to divide, manipulate, and control public opinion using fear, propaganda, disinformation, psychological warfare, agents provocateurs, and false flag terrorist actions.[1]
The theory began with allegations that the United States government and the Greek military junta of 1967–1974 supported far-right terrorist groups in Italy and Turkey, where communism was growing in popularity, to spread panic among the population who would in turn demand stronger and more dictatorial governments

And now they are doing it over and over again, blowing up their own towers and killing their own citizens.

True this. But at the moment, if you even hint this, you're treated as a tinfoilhatnutjobwacko.

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Quote from: ProfMac on June 06, 2013, 10:42:13 AM

Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

The terrorist filled us with terror. We are acting scared, giving up hard won freedoms.

That shit is older than life. In Europe we know it very well. Just check what Strategy of Tension means - the US Government has used that tactic forever.

Just a hint on Wikipedia:

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The strategy of tension (Italian: strategia della tensione) is a tactic that aims to divide, manipulate, and control public opinion using fear, propaganda, disinformation, psychological warfare, agents provocateurs, and false flag terrorist actions.[1]
The theory began with allegations that the United States government and the Greek military junta of 1967–1974 supported far-right terrorist groups in Italy and Turkey, where communism was growing in popularity, to spread panic among the population who would in turn demand stronger and more dictatorial governments

And now they are doing it over and over again, blowing up their own towers and killing their own citizens.

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Quote from: Schrankwand on June 06, 2013, 10:42:03 AM

that is how apple does it and lately I heard an amusing story of complaint, since Apple acted in a security request and delivered the data from Apple imessage or how it is called. Of course, encrypted. And said "We don't have the means to encrypt this, but as you asked, here is the data you requested." "We can't read this." "Neither can we."

since when is apple with the cool kids again? Huh

they'll order them to remove encryption or provide a special key, simple as that.

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Quote from: ProfMac on June 06, 2013, 10:42:13 AM

Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

The terrorist filled us with terror. We are acting scared, giving up hard won freedoms.

Depending on how crypto-anarchist one is, one can claim that it bears the question of who are really the terrorists, the sandal wearing teenager in Afghanistan or manhunting agents that storm into wrong houses and murder everyone (mostly for the kicks and excitement of it)?

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Quote from: ProfMac on June 06, 2013, 10:42:13 AM

Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

The terrorist filled us with terror. We are acting scared, giving up hard won freedoms.

I am hearing a street fighter like sound that says "Al-quaia wins." Terror is everywhere. People are in fear. Governments overreact and instill even more fear in their citizens... sad.

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Quote from: tutkarz on June 06, 2013, 10:34:58 AM

there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

The terrorist filled us with terror. We are acting scared, giving up hard won freedoms.

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So, basically they want a backdoor. Within no time, hackers will crack it and they will whine about it...

But I suggest giving them the backdoor. I suggest using encrypted communication and simply leaking them the whole communication. Get it delivered to their doorstep. And then let them have fun cracking AES.

that is how apple does it and lately I heard an amusing story of complaint, since Apple acted in a security request and delivered the data from Apple imessage or how it is called. Of course, encrypted. And said "We don't have the means to encrypt this, but as you asked, here is the data you requested." "We can't read this." "Neither can we."

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there is still time for the US people to stop this nonsense and petition to their politicians, create organisations who will remind US government and its departments that they are going wrong way. You cant just sit and watch wtf they are doing. Take Turkey as example.

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The power grabs are really troubling. What is more troubling is the populace gets a little outraged and then lets it happen so they know they can take a little more each time. Makes you wonder if you should post anything, anywhere other than your edited thoughts.

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Time for open source to become more common.

Closed source is becoming more and more dangerous these days, since software houses are no more free to do what they want Undecided

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