Topic: FBI's recent response to the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto (Read 490 times)
I also believe Nick Szabo was the leader, but Hal Finney was also involved. His neighbor was called Satoshi Nakamoto, it's such a coincidence!
I believe Nick Szabo invented Bitcoin, regardless of who Satoshi actually was. Szabo's 'Bit Gold' concept, which he detailed before the release of the Bitcoin whitepaper, shares many similarities with Bitcoin, such as the idea of decentralized digital currency and the use of cryptographic methods to secure transactions. Szabo mentions Bit Gold and 'bit gold miners' before Satoshi ever appeared. These parallels have led many to speculate that Szabo might have been directly involved in the creation of Bitcoin.
The question arises: why was the date on Nick's blog edited to make it appear as though it was written after the Bitcoin whitepaper was published on October 31, 2008, and after the bitcoin.org domain was registered on August 18, 2008? If the timing doesn't matter, then what's there to hide? It could be a coincidence, a mistake, or perhaps something more deliberate.
On the other hand, the real date is left intact here: https://nakamotoinstitute.org/bit-gold/
The question arises: why was the date on Nick's blog edited to make it appear as though it was written after the Bitcoin whitepaper was published on October 31, 2008, and after the bitcoin.org domain was registered on August 18, 2008? If the timing doesn't matter, then what's there to hide? It could be a coincidence, a mistake, or perhaps something more deliberate.
On the other hand, the real date is left intact here: https://nakamotoinstitute.org/bit-gold/
The ONLY case I would like the Identity of Satoshi to be known is if this was a set up planned by the F.B.I. or other Agencies themselves. But even that would not only hurt their Reputation but the Reputation of Bitcoin itself. Very badly in fact. I am skeptical and paranoid enough about Tor and the way it was funded by Agencies. If I knew Bitcoin was funded or created by them, I would lose hope for a better future honestly.
Just a funny fact: SHA256 Was designed by NSA, so you could say a part of Bitcoin is made by NSA
The rest is probably KGB
No offense, but don't you think that this topic is a waste of time and something completely unnecessary? People who persistently want information about people who have done everything to protect their anonymity without doing anything wrong should understand that they are not doing anything good by their actions.
Kind of angers me. Imagine you have done every thing possible to stay hidden after showing the World a project that could one day truly save lives. Creating an Ecosystem for the Unbanked and for the already Banked to protect themselves from a later very possible failure of Banks. Then the people you tried helping out end up pretty much sabotaging you by doing the best they can to expose your Identity.The ONLY case I would like the Identity of Satoshi to be known is if this was a set up planned by the F.B.I. or other Agencies themselves. But even that would not only hurt their Reputation but the Reputation of Bitcoin itself. Very badly in fact. I am skeptical and paranoid enough about Tor and the way it was funded by Agencies. If I knew Bitcoin was funded or created by them, I would lose hope for a better future honestly.
It may be a violent person but the image alone is not violent at all. So stay calm, everything is OK 
If you brain wash children with images like this day by day, many years, most of them will become people like this, violently and that's nothing good at all!It will be more ok if you edit your post and delete the image attached.
Ohhh I love how you used THINK ABOUT CHILDREN, the excuse government use to ban everything
Listen sunny boy, your little cute children from a good neighborhood don't become ruthless gangsters that kill other people and deal drugs from watching pictures.
It will be more OK if you stop being such a snowflake and maybe stop judging people by their color and where they live, this guy can be as well a good citizen, I have guns as well and I'm not a gangster.
So chill out, your children (if you have any) will grow up to be as snowflaky as you, you can't cheat genetics.
Cheers!
You racist 
It may be a violent person but the image alone is not violent at all. So stay calm, everything is OK
If you brain wash children with images like this day by day, many years, most of them will become people like this, violently and that's nothing good at all!It will be more ok if you edit your post and delete the image attached.
If they know who that is and reveal it, that person might become a target. They'd also be responsible for a large panic on the market because what if that's someone's neighbor? What if he lived in a country that your country is in conflict with? What if you knew him? It would be a spark that starts a fire.
If they don't know or are unable to track him, this would make people see them as incompetent. It would decrease the respect for the institution. Why tell people you're unable to do something, especially after the recent fiasco of the Secret Service?
People who knew Satoshi Nakamoto in person possibly is very little than total fingers in one or two hands. I don't know whether there are people who actually knew Satoshi Nakamoto's identity but if they knew it and kept their mouth closed for more than 15 years, there will be nearly no reason for them to open their mouths and reveal identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.If they don't know or are unable to track him, this would make people see them as incompetent. It would decrease the respect for the institution. Why tell people you're unable to do something, especially after the recent fiasco of the Secret Service?
Is this the first bitcointalk.org topic?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?
1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).
I feel like there's no good way to handle this, so their best case scenario is to stall.
If they know who that is and reveal it, that person might become a target. They'd also be responsible for a large panic on the market because what if that's someone's neighbor? What if he lived in a country that your country is in conflict with? What if you knew him? It would be a spark that starts a fire.
If they don't know or are unable to track him, this would make people see them as incompetent. It would decrease the respect for the institution. Why tell people you're unable to do something, especially after the recent fiasco of the Secret Service?
If they know who that is and reveal it, that person might become a target. They'd also be responsible for a large panic on the market because what if that's someone's neighbor? What if he lived in a country that your country is in conflict with? What if you knew him? It would be a spark that starts a fire.
If they don't know or are unable to track him, this would make people see them as incompetent. It would decrease the respect for the institution. Why tell people you're unable to do something, especially after the recent fiasco of the Secret Service?
I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
It is that innate desire for humans to uncover something that looks like a mystery. It is just like deep sea exploration, space exploration and all. And the fact is that as long as the identity of Satoshi remains hidden, there would be a person or group of persons out there who would make it their life's mission to uncover this mystery, with or without the help of any government agency. And they will not give up unless there is a reason beyond any doubt for them to. As for me, I don't care who he is. He's created something phenomena and I am appreciative of that and will use it to the best of what it was meant to do. 
Satoshi Nakamoto was a genius, he gave us freedom from the traditional financial system since its inception. Since that time, he has disappeared, and there is not a single clue as to whether he is alive or not. I don't know why they are trying to reveal him to the world; maybe they want to conduct research on him, or perhaps there are some other plans for him. But first, they aim to find any clue that can lead them to him, and that's why they are spreading such news. One thing I can clearly say is that he was a mastermind who defeated the traditional system, and if he doesn't want to be revealed, then I think no one will find him. Maybe he knows the aftermath of his revelation, and that's why he decided to live anonymously. And there may be a possibility that he is online from another account and is observing things.
I don't think that is a good image to share in the forum. It's kind of violent!
It may be a violent person but the image alone is not violent at all. So stay calm, everything is OK Alot of people have been claiming to be Satoshi ...
Maybe that's the point, WE are Satoshi. Satoshi became decentralized!I'm Satoshi!
Alot of people have been claiming to be Satoshi, some will tell you that they have the identity of Nakamoto with them, but everything will eventually turned a nightmare and fade away over time, the US FBI to some certain extent were seen as those that groom up Satoshi to whom he became because they said that he was ones part of them, the same way we are hearing a lot of controversies as well concerning this same subject matter on the real identity of Satoshi plus his background, but the question remained unanswered because no one can know or give a response to the identity of an anonymous man.
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I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
This investigative journalist is asking for information that isn't available anywhere. It isn't available that even the FBI themselves can't confirm who Satoshi is/are. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
Why people are putting so much time on this "UNSOLVED MYSTERY"? Maybe they want increase their popularity and knowing that Satoshi has been anonymous for a very long time, they want to know more about his/her/they identity. He's asking for information that no one even knows but Satoshi only. This is absurd if you will ask me because you're asking information about somebody that nobody doesn't even know - not even the FBI. Maybe he can try browsing on the deep web or the dark web. He might find the answers there.
Nevertheless, I wish him good luck, and of course, there will be a time where he will stop asking because nobody knows what Satoshi's identity is.
To be honest, I don't think that FBI should disclose identity of Satoshi even if they know it. That's basic respect for someone's privacy. Satoshi doesn't want to be known, and we must respect that.
I don't believe in Bitcoin being an FBI project, as that's an unsubstantiated claim and doesn't make sense to me. Whoever Satoshi is, I'm grateful for creation of Bitcoin, and for kickstarting this community. I won't look for that person's identity, and if it were known to me, I wouldn't disclose it because I respect privacy.
Does that mean the FBI will keep their mouth shut and won't release all the information about Satoshi even if they know everything about it?I don't believe in Bitcoin being an FBI project, as that's an unsubstantiated claim and doesn't make sense to me. Whoever Satoshi is, I'm grateful for creation of Bitcoin, and for kickstarting this community. I won't look for that person's identity, and if it were known to me, I wouldn't disclose it because I respect privacy.
If the FBI had any information about Satoshi, they would have long ago told him who it was. The problem is, they probably didn't have much information about Satoshi until now and that is the reason why Satoshi has not been revealed so far.
Satoshi (individual or group) is basically not a terrorist whose existence needs to be hunted down. He is the creator of bitcoin who is quite good at protecting his privacy, but one could speculate that bitcoin is a project developed by some agency although there is no proof about it.
I have seen some threads where people claim that Bitcoin was created by the FEDs or the US government. Recently, an entrepreneur and investigative journalist, Dave Troy, filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the FBI, which is aimed at uncovering information about the identity of Satoshi.
The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto. Unsatisfied with the response Troy is planning to push forward for the release of any information about Satoshi. So he is planning to appeal this scanty response. The agency's inability to give any valuable information about the creator of Bitcoin shows that the identity of Satoshi will continue to be a mystery. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
The statement of the FBI is empty and has no value. Maybe they just said so to appear that they are complying with the law but in reality, they are not ready to release such information even though there is a high chance they know Satoshi is. Assuming the authorities do not know, there are countless number of ways they will explore to get that information including interrogating the known people that communicated with Satoshi during the creation and testing phase. They could also explore the registration of the domain to know who registered it, means of payment and so on. The FBI responded that "Satoshi could be one or more third-party individuals, and they can neither confirm nor deny their existence". This response simply means that the FBI didn't confirm or deny the existence of any records related to Satoshi Nakamoto. Unsatisfied with the response Troy is planning to push forward for the release of any information about Satoshi. So he is planning to appeal this scanty response. The agency's inability to give any valuable information about the creator of Bitcoin shows that the identity of Satoshi will continue to be a mystery. I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
I don't believe the DEI hires at the FBI have the ability to locate stink on 💩
Let's just say confidence in their abilities is at an all time low and falling like a rock.
Let's just say confidence in their abilities is at an all time low and falling like a rock.
Forum has its rule against Doxing and this mean, finding and sharing identity of Satoshi Nakamoto in the forum is against forum rules.
Should speculation about satoshi's identity be subject to doxxing rules?
Should speculation about satoshi's identity be subject to doxxing rules?
Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they comply with the following rules:
Why aren't they deleted? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they comply with the following rules:
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1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.
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1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.
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Why aren't they deleted? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.
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This is the only verifiable picture of Satoshi we have so far:
I don't think that is a good image to share in the forum. It's kind of violent! 
I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
For fame maybe, they want to be the one who finally unravels Satoshi's identity, but we very well know how it will end, in nothingness.I completely agree. This is all about self promotion, and in the case of a Journalist like Dave Troy, I would say he wants to promote his journalism by making it look like he has a big story on the hook.
To be honest, I don't think that FBI should disclose identity of Satoshi even if they know it. That's basic respect for someone's privacy. Satoshi doesn't want to be known, and we must respect that.
I don't believe in Bitcoin being an FBI project, as that's an unsubstantiated claim and doesn't make sense to me. Whoever Satoshi is, I'm grateful for creation of Bitcoin, and for kickstarting this community. I won't look for that person's identity, and if it were known to me, I wouldn't disclose it because I respect privacy.
I don't believe in Bitcoin being an FBI project, as that's an unsubstantiated claim and doesn't make sense to me. Whoever Satoshi is, I'm grateful for creation of Bitcoin, and for kickstarting this community. I won't look for that person's identity, and if it were known to me, I wouldn't disclose it because I respect privacy.
I don't know why people are putting so much time and energy into unveiling the identity of Satoshi.
Until you’re thinking at the same wavelength of those who takes pleasure or would gain some satisfaction in these findings, you just might never know. It’s something that could go into history perhaps, having to put a face to the name that has brought about several controversies and eluded even the most intelligent people on the planet with the resources we have. Jump to: