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Topic: FED decided to not end QE - page 2. (Read 9400 times)

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September 20, 2013, 06:19:09 PM
#29
This really did not suprise the followers of the Austrian school of economics (Peter Schiff and many others).

As important as this is, it would be wishful thinking this will destroy the dollar. It will not. As long as the world accepts dollars, the Fed can print much much more and for a very long time.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
September 20, 2013, 07:15:36 AM
#28
I think they still have lots of room

It is easy to bribe people with printed money, so that eventually every one is bribed. Imagine that average Joe suddenly get a job with $10K per month, even the job itself is useless, he won't question it. And more importantly, he won't care about that some bankers earned $100K per month during the process

Commercial banks are like black hole, newly printed money must first satisfy their need and then the extra part will flow out to the society. For each 10 dollar went into commercial banks, maybe only 1 dollar eventually spent and created job

The only concern is hyperinflation, but that will not happen as long as the money printing speed is less than 100% per year and there are assets continuously absorb the extra money supply. Average Joe will not eat double amount of beef per day if his income doubled, but he might spend 100% more on his mortgage and get a newer larger house. That will not impact CPI directly

There is another concern about concentrated production power, e.g. a few multinational enterprises command most of the production in the world, thus rest of the people become jobless. But same, if they are bribed with enough money, they will eventually hire more and more people doing useless things, at mean time accumulate magnitudes higher money

And just like bitcoin, most of those money will first be hoarded when people's saving preference is high, but if the economy really improved after a while and those money are losing their value quickly, they will rush out to chase other things, thus accelerate the inflation. It is possible that we will see a 20% interest rate on USD by that time, maybe even a 50% interest rate can not save it

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September 19, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
#26
This is the end game, the FED has basically admitted now that it can't stop QE and has no exit plan of any kind.

Though the unthinkable approaches as fiat nears its end, I can't wait to see how Bitcoin responds. If it was anything like Cyprus we may be in for a big surprise.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 08:56:25 PM
#25
The FED is holding on, waiting for Bitcoin to mature.
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September 19, 2013, 08:29:31 PM
#24
Of course they're not going to end QE. It's the only thing propping up the markets since the 2008 crash.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 04:47:06 PM
#23
I agree. The Fed was expected to taper, and they didn't. I see this leading to more and more people wondering if it will ever stop.

the way i see it fed are doing QE every couple of years now indicating that they are buying some time for themselves. if we dont get another QE in 2015 then we need to brace ourselves as doom will be around the corner...
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September 19, 2013, 01:43:13 PM
#22
How can they stop printing at this point without crashing the markets?

They can't.  Cheap money has turned from stimulus to entitlement.
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Beyond Imagination
September 19, 2013, 01:21:08 PM
#21
Why do they always use lots of vague terms like tightening, easing, tool box, taper ... when in reality it is only two actions: print more money or print less money  Grin
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 10:52:02 AM
#20
We don't do QE in Bitcoin.  Cheesy
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The revolution will be monetized!
September 19, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
#19
Great to see my tax dollars being used to prop up criminality. I wish I was to big to jail.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 10:40:19 AM
#18
ohh boy seems like something terrible is bound to happen sooner than later..

I agree. The Fed was expected to taper, and they didn't. I see this leading to more and more people wondering if it will ever stop.
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In Satoshi I Trust
September 19, 2013, 10:26:34 AM
#17
Fed will stop printing when the economy is better.....For sure Grin Grin Grin
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September 19, 2013, 07:54:43 AM
#16
What Bernanke did say, which is correct, is that there is only so much any central bank can do. They have some tools, and they can use those, but not more.

What is really needed is a stop to random redistribution of wealth through government, and massive deregulation. Let the prices, including interest rate, signal to the actors what is valuable and what is not. Its is not in the Fed's toolbox.
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
September 19, 2013, 07:34:23 AM
#15
and how about that gold basement fire in new york couple of months back?
That was just an apartment building, as everybody who bothered to actually check the address would know. Roll Eyes
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September 19, 2013, 07:14:42 AM
#14
Its too bad only 27% of adults even know what QE means!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/poll-end-feds-qe-sight-083330651.html

If more than 50% of adults know, there will be a crisis for sure. FED's main job is disguise what they are doing, and so far they invented so many strange terms to cover the simple fact -- "money printing"

When people finally realized what is really happened, they will turn to bitcoin one by one

+1
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 07:12:48 AM
#13
also check this out:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-postpones-the-moment-of-truth-2013-09-18?pagenumber=1

http://flowofwisdom.com/2013/08/19/is-the-federal-reserve-acting-like-bullies-over-germanys-gold/


and how about that gold basement fire in new york couple of months back?
it seems that the gold is going from institutional possession into private mansion basements. ie we are witnessing a bank run that will go on among known circles until economy cant take no more.
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 07:05:14 AM
#12
ohh boy seems like something terrible is bound to happen sooner than later..
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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou
September 19, 2013, 06:11:56 AM
#11
As long as you Americans not paying back our loan with your own money. They will continue to print more crap to pay us back. Hedge your position with us loans or bitcoin. You choose!
legendary
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September 19, 2013, 05:49:39 AM
#10
I've only seen a little bit of Marc Faber but I liked what he had to say Cheesy
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