Topic: FED refuses to return back Germany gold after an failed audit - page 2. (Read 13610 times)

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Thinking Like "Fat Tony" (James Turk - Sep 9, 2008)
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_sep092008.html


BTW the much-celebrated "US Mint Working Stock" that James Turk wrote that article so glowingly about that had been unchanged since 2006 until the time of his writing then, IS NOW, STILL, in 2013 "miraculously" reported to be the exact same 2,783,218.656 Troy Ounces!    In fact, the whole so-called "report" never changes, like it was some sort of a Coles Notes answer they regurgitate on their "term paper" every year.. (or a cement-cast of Marilyn Monroe's butt on Hollywood Blvd.)

Perhaps they think this rare and special collection of artistically inspired reports might fetch them some gold at Sotheby's someday.

Could it be some marvellous modern miracle of "Exactly Just To The Second For Years Deliveries" ??
Although I cannot at all agree with James Turk's grossly erroneous conclusions about (us all having a publicly owned and operated) central reserve bank, (as opposed to the criminal private ones who have had us) I'll tell ya what Fat Tony and Dr John would both have to say, now...


Are We On The Verge Of Witnessing The Death Of The Paper Gold Scam?(Michael Snyder - May 9, 2013)
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/are-we-on-the-verge-of-witnessing-the-death-of-the-paper-gold-scam

A publicly owned and operated, for public profit, Central Reserve Banking system (and money) would make taxation obsolete. Julius Caesar, Henry 1st, George Washington and Abe Lincoln all proved it, and JFK might have again...

Gold has always been the problem and never been the solution. A Medium of Labour-Resource Exchange IS what it IS, it need not ever also be anything else (that can be easily monopolized) that it isn't!

Wow!  While reading some of these articles I did not realize how ignorant I was about this.  I can't even imagine how this will effect the world if the truth is that there really is no gold (or not much gold) being held by the US.  Especially if they are supposed to be holding it safely for other nations.  Could a war erupt over that?  There have been wars over less.

I think the intriguing part of this story, and the part that sooner or later will possibly require a new future POTUS to send armed soldiers to this facility to check on, is the physical presence of those numbered bars in that facility.

Or not, and if not, there is a crime, and it should be investigated.

Let the heads roll on this one.

So, from this point of view, it really doesn't need a coverup or any politics involved.  Germany was correct to attempt an audit.

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The gold is a lie!

Someone please put this on t-shirts, and I'll buy a bunch, promise.

Digital gold? That's crazy talk!

If only the Fed could mathematically prove that they own the gold they say they own...

If only they could transfer it instantly across continents cheaply and safely...

If only there was some form of digital gold that allowed this... 

Does anyone else here read all this and think 'why are we still using gold?'. It seems so primitive and outdated...

What we need is some sort of digital version 

"Why would you (as a nation) store your gold in another (US) nations vault?"

Simple, same reason you 'store' your money in a bank, kinda.

Totally theoretical 'what if' ..
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Stage 1 - US "Store your gold in our banks, because we have a fuck huge military and NO ONE will start a war with us. So your gold is perfectly safe with us." Whilst leaning heavily on the person playing with a knife that is tapping countries like Vietnam, South Korea, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Iran....

Federal Reserve (a privately run corporation) uses the military might of the USA to make these promises, of which then the gold goes into the Federal Reserves pocket

(I mean, a chunk is in the NYC vaults, and that City is ruled by Kissinger, if you didn't know how evil that fucker is and what he's been behind before, then take a look at the recent wikileaks).

Stage 2 - Clever/evil/greedy bastichs make clever deals and similar over the years, selling bonds/stocks/shares, etc, to slowly move the majority (if not all) of the stored gold into their personal vaults. Or buying the gold up, or lets be serious, these people are NOT above blatantly stealing the lot.

(Bets are - check Rothschilds and various other Bilderberg personal/family vaults to find the 'missing' gold).

Stage 3 - Other nation states "Urm, can we have our gold back now?"
US "Yea... gold..? whats that then?"

Stage 4 - Global economical collapse.

Napleons War, WWI, WWII, and times before and after. Everytime there's a HUGE financial crime, you gotta look between the lines, each war, every time. Usually the UK profiteering, even now (City Of London, the 1 square mile).

You don't need another war, no WWIII will ever happen, just a global economical collapse, well, so the plan goes. Globe turns to gold temporarily, and when fiat picks back up they havn't just brought out other major corporations, or nations... they've brought the damn world.

Notes: Check who profited from each war. Check the sale/collapse of huge corporations that 'they' have brought up over time. Check how many nations they 'brought' (turned into debt slaves) after each war. Check how many nations are actually under their control (have huge debts).

But there's still free people, there's still free land.

BUT - after a global economical collapse, and those that have all the gold rise up and buy everything up ... how much do you think will be free after that?

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Go a park, or open bit of grass, where you can get a good view of your local area, or just a good view of a lot of houses and buildings. Now how much of all that see is owned by the banks? How many houses per 100 can someone say "I own my house fully." How many people will be able to say that after a global collapse?

Now I am scared, for the well being of our diplomats who are so unfortunate as to be assigned to work with your people.  Fortunately, we have many who must be demoted from the very top and so you may fight your teams outnumbered, although by dwarfs of small minds, who peer far standing fearlessly from the shoulders of even shorter and smaller minds.

Yeah, they don't want law discussions with germans.


We are going to engage them in hour long meetings after meetings after meetings, stalling and postponing with always new annoying people like our current Foreign Secretary, for hours and hours on end.

After some time, the people will start donating just to give the gold back, hoping that the german delegations are going to stop with the hourlong meetings, protocols and talks about regulations and details. Bureaucracy knockout from Germany? Well, every citizen in Germany had one of those. I had many. There is a joke in Asterix comics from France about "the house that makes crazy people." It was in the Asterix movie about conquering rome. The house that makes crazy people is harmless against German bureaucracy.

And we're not just talking about Joe Schmoe wanting his $10k from a bank with a few $Billion to work with. Germany's gold holdings at the Fed accounts for a sizable fraction of the Fed's overall gold reserves, and it sounds like that's a much larger fraction than what the Fed has been loaning it out against.

Not only that, but seeing that this is now public knowledge, far smarter and more invested people are going to be concerned, and the implications of a gold run on the Fed is mind boggling.

I just hope I have enough crypto's by that time to sit back and watch it all unfold as the S hits the fan.

Considering the German government... they are so damn backwards, it would not happen before 2030. When all politicians from NOW are pensionated and in retirement.

lol, good one!

Well, good question.

Their point of view would have some merit, if phrased as a concern against my actions causing a bank run.  I'd require a line of credit against the collateral, at some nominal interest like 0.1%/annum.

Having done that, I'd begin moving fund around, using a random series of ins and outs both temporally and in volume and dollar amounts.

And at the right time, I'd fuck the fuckers.

Imagine if you were concerned that the bank where you keep half your money isn't doing well and you ask to withdraw all of it.

They tell you you can't, because "that's simply not practical", BUT, if you don't raise a fuss, they'll pay you back a little bit at a time over the next few years, as long as you keep quiet.

What would you do?

Actually, we have stored over half of the Gold over here. The reason we have kept this gold in several places (London, New York, Paris) is that this way, transactions between countries were easily solved: Move gold from room one to room two. Ten meters difference. Better than loading 3 tons of gold on a transporter and move it from capital to capital.

Please read this, this is so Bogus. If you ever see someone touting their PhD, Dr... it's bullshit, they better be saying what that PhD is in, I have a doctorate in economics... does that mean I can be trusted to do a physical checkup on you? Bogus.

http://www.eruptingmind.com/how-to-persuade-different-types-of-people/

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/TristanLoo4.html

I'm not saying that governments don't do this, but I very well know it is usually one dude; A psychopath/Con artist/ emotionaly disturbed individual who has gained enough power to get people to do as they say. Having been born in Honduras, you could see these people all the time, pulling their cons, inpersonating people in power, gun/drug smuggling, and usually they don't live too long, sooner or later someone finds out and tracks them down. Ever heard of the guy that started the Civil war in Guatemala did the Coup d'etat over the liberal government at the time and got replaced with a dictatorship? His wife bragged about it... you can read the history, they found them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

During the cold war they thought it was more safe in the USA because the russians could overrun germany in a day or two.

Why Germany wants its 674 tons of gold back
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/16/why-germany-wants-its-674-tons-of-gold-back/

Germany Wants Its Gold Back—Should You Worry?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100382718

Why Germany Wants to See its US Gold
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-politicians-demand-to-see-gold-in-us-federal-reserve-a-864068.html