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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

There is a chance that the nature of the game has something to do with the gender that plays in that game most. There is no official study for this yet, but I am thinking that we will find more females playing and drawn to luck-based games than skill-based games because of how difficult the process of learning skill-based games may be.

You are actually right about this. Women generally just love to have fun the easy way. Luck based games involves no stress in playing and the fact that it gives instant results is another thing that makes it addictive not just to women, but to some male gamblers also. Although there are Women who can actually do well with skills based gambling games, the percentage of these Women are too small compared to the other ones who prefer luck based casino games.

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Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

When you see the result of the game you just played before you, you will definitely be tempted to play again to either win more money or recover the one you've lost. A gambler who chooses to go for luck base games like slots should learn how to control his emotions. Failure to put his emotions in check, he will keep enriching the casinos at his own detriment.

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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet. Normally, the prediction was perfect but the outcome of the game was just unexpected. The skill game like poker also depends on luck, because you can not be very certain about the outcome. One can get disappointed in gambling on the game they attached all their hope to.

There is always a belief in sport betting that when you go for games with lower odds, the chances of you winning are always very high compared to when you place a bet on higher odds, which is what I believe the man did in that place, but the result did not just happen the way it was predicted that day, but other days it has been working for them. I have someone who is also good at doing that on a daily basis, but he focusses specifically on live matches.

Some person thinks that small odds can have a high chance of winning but it only happen in some matches. Some small odds can even mess up your bet just like it did for the person I described above. While gambling, do not just put 100% hope into any bet because you don't know the outcome yet.

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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet. Normally, the prediction was perfect but the outcome of the game was just unexpected. The skill game like poker also depends on luck, because you can not be very certain about the outcome. One can get disappointed in gambling on the game they attached all their hope to.

There is always a belief in sport betting that when you go for games with lower odds, the chances of you winning are always very high compared to when you place a bet on higher odds, which is what I believe the man did in that place, but the result did not just happen the way it was predicted that day, but other days it has been working for them. I have someone who is also good at doing that on a daily basis, but he focusses specifically on live matches.

I don't think this is a belief but that is actually how it is and the same criteria the bookies use in setting the odds. The lower the odd of the game, the higher the chances of success of the game and vice versa. There may be exception like in the case of the underdogs winning the game like we had it in recent champions league matches where both Real Madrid and Bayern Munic lost their respective matches to their opponents even when people though it would require a miracle for them to lose. However, the probability of delivering for smaller odds is higher and the outcome of such matches often goes as predicted.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

There is a chance that the nature of the game has something to do with the gender that plays in that game most. There is no official study for this yet, but I am thinking that we will find more females playing and drawn to luck-based games than skill-based games because of how difficult the process of learning skill-based games may be.

Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?

I guess it does not affect gender, casino don't care at all on this as long as the player has money to play the game, it seems just have standards about women like they get all their want but in casinos its different story if they are got lucky enough, they win the game. If the game is skill base of course most of us have this but people have more experience and knowledge so they got a huge win with their risk.

There's saying that the new people join in the gambling world has a beginners luck why they win their games but still its just a hoax and beliefs its all about their luck that don't get hesitant with their bets.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

There is a chance that the nature of the game has something to do with the gender that plays in that game most. There is no official study for this yet, but I am thinking that we will find more females playing and drawn to luck-based games than skill-based games because of how difficult the process of learning skill-based games may be.

Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?

I would definitely include slots and roulette in games based on luck, and I want to say that I have indeed seen many women there. They do not want to bother their heads with the rules and just hope for luck. But in games like poker, I have almost never seen women. After all, poker has many rules and it is often men who sit there. And although there is a luck factor in this type of gambling, men really prefer it.

I can say they are very rare but not non-existent. I have seen women play in a poker room where I usually go although I don't know if they are still playing there because I stopped visiting the place when COVID hit the world. They are actually good at bluffing when I tried watching one of them and I can say it's because it's hard to read their eyes.

Regarding luck-based games, yes, slots are one of them because there's no such thing as a strategy in that game. You will just have to wait for a good algorithm to come at you and wish that you will hit a heavy multiplier that could easily make you profits. It's very rare too and I can say it could go tens of thousands of bets before it comes out. There are lucky people who could get it at 1-10 tries only but those are super lucky players.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

There is a chance that the nature of the game has something to do with the gender that plays in that game most. There is no official study for this yet, but I am thinking that we will find more females playing and drawn to luck-based games than skill-based games because of how difficult the process of learning skill-based games may be.

Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?

I would definitely include slots and roulette in games based on luck, and I want to say that I have indeed seen many women there. They do not want to bother their heads with the rules and just hope for luck. But in games like poker, I have almost never seen women. After all, poker has many rules and it is often men who sit there. And although there is a luck factor in this type of gambling, men really prefer it.

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However, luck is needed in the gambling games, no matters if that is skill based games or luck based games. When playing gambling, we must think about how good our luck to win the games. But when you often lose your money, that gives you understanding that you don't have to keep playing gambling because that can makes you gets more losses. If you can not realizes that, you will only regret and the worst is you can becomes addicted to gambling. Playing gambling is not related to gender because anyone can playing gambling but what they must know is how they can prevent the big lose and still control themselves.

The luck based for gambling is always higher then the skill grounds if solid comparison is to be made actually, if you doubt, we have seen times where teams we expect to win against other teams get to loose and in some cases even with very good numbers of goal differences meanwhile normally a skilful gambler would say going by their statistical records, they know that between this two teams it's most likely the bigger side would win but at the end of the day such skill gets defiled, which is a confirmation that both skill and luck have to come in place to win and at times luck is even greater and thst is why someone without a skill can randomly make picks and still win.

Compering skill based games like football and luck based games like slot, what they both have in common is that luck is the strong determinant for winnings. Although skill based games gives the gambler opportunities to analyze the teams to increase chances of winning. Luck based games don't require any skills, that is why it's more popular because anybody can engage in them for fun. Most luck based games are very simple that is why I believe that most people that don't have interest in gambling but wants to try out for fun will always choose then. Unlike skill based that will require you to have some sort of knowledge about the teams that you want to bet on.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

There is no official study for this yet, but I am thinking that we will find more females playing and drawn to luck-based games than skill-based games because of how difficult the process of learning skill-based games may be.

Are you suggesting that males are better than females when it comes to skills? I strongly doubt that because studies prove differently, females and males can fit perfectly in all sectors of life if they have the will, focus and determination. As luck, it is random for everyone regardless of gender.

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Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

You are not clear with this and you might want to restructure or correct the questions. However, what I understand here is about the Will and Belief, if that is it, well, it is the same for all genders, you may not do well where you do not have the two. But fate and luck will always play their role in our success.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 05, 2024, 01:55:08 AM

The short results of luck-based games give a feeling of wanting to continue playing, so many people think that luck games can cost more money than other bets like sports.
Some sports bettors spend a lot of money on their bets. because they like sports betting, not luck-based games.
Regarding the type of game that is very easy to spend more money, I think it all depends on the betting habits of the gambler. some gamblers bet on both, sports betting and luck like slots. but divide their finances and gambling activities well. such as only betting on sports on weekends. and only playing sot when there are no interesting sports bets.

Well, if we take into account that in games of skill 95% of players or more are long-term losers, we will see a parallel with games of chance: also in games of skill the short-term, positive results are those that leave the long-term losers wanting more, wanting to repeat the experience. In some cases they believe that they are good because they have good sessions from time to time when, if we add up the total of wins and losses, they are long-term losers.

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I don't think gender has anything to do with the luck nor the skills so it's irrelevant when we are talking about individual perspective.

The only common thing I noticed between the nature of skill and luck based gamblers is, when the one who are just desperate to make some quick money chose the luck based games more than skill based while the skill based gamblers build the obsession over the game in period of time and at once they just wanted to extend their experience also want to take chances with their skills chose certain games to bet on.

Gender certainly doesn't matter when it comes gambling whether it'll be luck or skill based games but still it is undeniably true that most gamblers are males than females.

It really depends on the preference of gambler where they gamble whether it'll be skill based or luck based games whether they're desperate on winning. It's just most of luck based games are fast pace games where you can easily triple your money or lose it all in a short span of time like dice and roulettes. There are gamblers out there who are desperate on winning that they created a strategy or research a ton on games like poker or sportsbet just to make sure they'll win.

The short results of luck-based games give a feeling of wanting to continue playing, so many people think that luck games can cost more money than other bets like sports.
Some sports bettors spend a lot of money on their bets. because they like sports betting, not luck-based games.
Regarding the type of game that is very easy to spend more money, I think it all depends on the betting habits of the gambler. some gamblers bet on both, sports betting and luck like slots. but divide their finances and gambling activities well. such as only betting on sports on weekends. and only playing sot when there are no interesting sports bets.

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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet.

Certainly all form of games wether Roulette or football games all are based on luck. But what baffles me is how someone would stake $1k in 2 games precisely 1.1odd and 1.3 isn't that insanity? Well I guess he was trying to play a game that will reduce risk tolerance, but still end up losing after being careful. That is to show that no matter how careful one tends to be, he might still lose. Which plainly described gambling as a game of luck because someone in other hands may risk A single 30odd game and it happens to play.

Well, yeah, that's insane but so many bettors are taking the risk every day for the same of making profit. Are you not aware of Drake, do you know how much he loses on a single bet anytime he is unlucky? You can not even compare $1k to the amount of money that drake puts on a single bet. Gambling is about luck and anyone that is risking a huge amount should only put the amount they can afford to lose.

Although you are actually right about drake and his huge gambling habit, but we are different people and our souce if income differs. he has other means of income where he has hope to gamble that much otherwise he would have reduced his level of staking. Afterall I can't compare myself to him. The $1k insanity I am emphasizing on, is that it is better to stake on a reasonable odd like 1.5, 2, 2.5 or 3odd to multiply his wager by any of the reasonable multiplier, than risking to nothing. For example if he devide $1k by two, it will be $500 each. Let say $500 *1.1odd =550 or 500*1.3=650. although it's a matter of choice and I can't really blame him %100 because $50 or $150 profit is a reasonable money if could have won. But if was me I would divide $1k in to 10 places or 5 places with 3odd in each stake with $100 of which if 3 tickets where lucky to have entered I would be able to recover my initial spending.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?

Luck-based gambling, like slot games, takes little time to finish. You might spend so much money within a few minutes and wouldn't recognize it unless you are conscious. As you said, sports bets take more time to analyse and predict.

Football games take approximately an hour and thirty minutes, which is time for waiting for the outcome. But in slots in seconds, the results are out. Thus, I accept that gamblers might end up spending more on luck-based games than the other. But some gamblers spend so much on sports games, so my conclusion is not sacrosanct.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on October 04, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

I don't think gender has anything to do with the luck nor the skills so it's irrelevant when we are talking about individual perspective.

The only common thing I noticed between the nature of skill and luck based gamblers is, when the one who are just desperate to make some quick money chose the luck based games more than skill based while the skill based gamblers build the obsession over the game in period of time and at once they just wanted to extend their experience also want to take chances with their skills chose certain games to bet on.

Gender certainly doesn't matter when it comes gambling whether it'll be luck or skill based games but still it is undeniably true that most gamblers are males than females.

It really depends on the preference of gambler where they gamble whether it'll be skill based or luck based games whether they're desperate on winning. It's just most of luck based games are fast pace games where you can easily triple your money or lose it all in a short span of time like dice and roulettes. There are gamblers out there who are desperate on winning that they created a strategy or research a ton on games like poker or sportsbet just to make sure they'll win.

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Quote from: Zigabel on October 04, 2024, 09:18:54 AM

The luck based for gambling is always higher then the skill grounds if solid comparison is to be made actually, if you doubt, we have seen times where teams we expect to win against other teams get to loose and in some cases even with very good numbers of goal differences meanwhile normally a skilful gambler would say going by their statistical records, they know that between this two teams it's most likely the bigger side would win but at the end of the day such skill gets defiled, which is a confirmation that both skill and luck have to come in place to win and at times luck is even greater and thst is why someone without a skill can randomly make picks and still win.

That is because everything can change when two team in the field and they will gives their best performance to beat each others. This surprises factor makes people's analysis wrong because they don't expect to see that so makes them losses. Even if their statistic and analysis saying that team A have a big chance to win, that will not always happen because the opponent can change the situation and win the match.

But in the gambling game based on the luck, we just rely on the luck without we know when we can win or expect when our luck will come. We can not compare between gambling game based on luck and skill because that will be different so we just need to have fun and enjoy the games.

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Quote from: Zigabel on October 04, 2024, 09:18:54 AM

The luck based for gambling is always higher then the skill grounds if solid comparison is to be made actually, if you doubt, we have seen times where teams we expect to win against other teams get to loose and in some cases even with very good numbers of goal differences meanwhile normally a skilful gambler would say going by their statistical records, they know that between this two teams it's most likely the bigger side would win but at the end of the day such skill gets defiled, which is a confirmation that both skill and luck have to come in place to win and at times luck is even greater and thst is why someone without a skill can randomly make picks and still win.

I agree with that, saying luck is the biggest factor that determines the final result of gambling is right, because after all if you compare skill and luck it seems that luck is superior because in skill-based games I think luck is still involved while in games that are purely based on luck it does not involve skill, but for some people there are those who believe confidently in luck-based games there is a skill that can make them win, even though if you think about it it's just nonsense.
I'm sure there are people out there who don't have any skills at all in betting but they manage to win by being careless by placing their bets, but this can actually invite them to become more interested in gambling, especially if they have the mindset that they can earn income from gambling.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on October 04, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

I don't think gender has anything to do with the luck nor the skills so it's irrelevant when we are talking about individual perspective.

The only common thing I noticed between the nature of skill and luck based gamblers is, when the one who are just desperate to make some quick money chose the luck based games more than skill based while the skill based gamblers build the obsession over the game in period of time and at once they just wanted to extend their experience also want to take chances with their skills chose certain games to bet on.

True, I also think that gender has nothing to do with luck or results in the game, the point is regardless of your gender I think the results in the game still depend on luck, and on the side I can agree with your opinion that one of the reasons why there are some gamblers who prefer the type of game of luck over the game of skill is because they want to get money quickly without wanting to do any analysis unlike when we talk about the type of game based on skill, and in terms of opportunities there is certainly a difference in the sense that even though you have to learn various things about skill-based betting but it will be useful and can bring you closer to victory, while when you choose the type of game of luck then don't expect you will always be able to win because there is no contribution whatsoever that you do to increase your chances of winning other than guessing, pressing buttons and waiting for the results.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on October 04, 2024, 01:55:36 PM

I don't think gender has anything to do with the luck nor the skills so it's irrelevant when we are talking about individual perspective.

The only common thing I noticed between the nature of skill and luck based gamblers is, when the one who are just desperate to make some quick money chose the luck based games more than skill based while the skill based gamblers build the obsession over the game in period of time and at once they just wanted to extend their experience also want to take chances with their skills chose certain games to bet on.

Gender has indeed no influence when it comes to luck-based games as well as skill-based games. For skill-based like poker, I am more on the years of experience of the person, whether the person is a male or female. Now, it depends on what kind of strategies they have acquired in those years.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on August 02, 2024, 04:29:55 PM

Another observation about luck-based games that a new gambler with an interest in them has to know is that they have the potential to make you, as a gambler, spend more money gambling than skill-based games.

What do you think?

I just want to focus on one exception about luck and skills because there limit number of gambling games that winning in it may not rely only on pure luck.

In games where winning is simply based on random spins such as roulette or slot games, luck plays a major role. Skill, on the other hand, refers to the ability to make strategic decisions based on understanding and knowledge, just like in games such as poker, where players can use certain strategies to evaluate cards and estimate the odds of winning, skill emerges as a major factor in achieving long-term success. However, it is important to note that skill does not eliminate the need for luck, as a skilled player can lose compared to a less skilled player if luck is on his side at that particular moment.

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I don't think gender has anything to do with the luck nor the skills so it's irrelevant when we are talking about individual perspective.

The only common thing I noticed between the nature of skill and luck based gamblers is, when the one who are just desperate to make some quick money chose the luck based games more than skill based while the skill based gamblers build the obsession over the game in period of time and at once they just wanted to extend their experience also want to take chances with their skills chose certain games to bet on.

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Well, in my opinion, I think that gambling depends on luck no matter the game. Skill based game like sports (soccer for example) also depends on luck, I have seen someone that staked a very huge amount, I can not be precise about the amount but I guess it was close to $1k, the man stake the amount on two games, one was just 1.1 odd and the second was 1.3 odd but he lost the bet.

Certainly all form of games wether Roulette or football games all are based on luck. But what baffles me is how someone would stake $1k in 2 games precisely 1.1odd and 1.3 isn't that insanity? Well I guess he was trying to play a game that will reduce risk tolerance, but still end up losing after being careful. That is to show that no matter how careful one tends to be, he might still lose. Which plainly described gambling as a game of luck because someone in other hands may risk A single 30odd game and it happens to play.

Well, yeah, that's insane but so many bettors are taking the risk every day for the same of making profit. Are you not aware of Drake, do you know how much he loses on a single bet anytime he is unlucky? You can not even compare $1k to the amount of money that drake puts on a single bet. Gambling is about luck and anyone that is risking a huge amount should only put the amount they can afford to lose.

We all know that Drake is a real gambler that don't mind using thousands of dollars to bet and when he loses, he do admit his error and that does not stop him from gambling. Gambling is actually fun to him that is why we also see that he likes betting on his favorite team and players and whatever be the outcome is okay with him. He has the money and that is what makes the difference between a rich gambler that has different investments and a poor gambler that sees gambling as an alternative to escape poverty. Once the money is there, we don't stress ourselves because we can afford every penny. Having a skill as gambler can be rewarding when we use it to bet while testing how effective it could be.

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