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Topic: Fiat cash payment limitations funneling people into bitcoin? (Read 1496 times)

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ok one more thing I posted a block chain rap video and i got 20 likes but none of them dont even know what bitcoin is and what the blockchain is but they liked it.  LOL!!!!!

Somebody should make an "intellectual like button", so the users wanting to press "like" needs to do some actual mental effort to be able to pull it off. I reckon facebook would quickly become less popular. And what about a hate button. Does everybody really like everything?

If somebody with a lot of facebook friends posted a image of a dead cat and claimed he just killed his cat, I'm sure he would get at least a couple of likes if he had 1000 friends. Also, it's quite wrong to display who liked something. Not only is facebook spying on you, but your friends can also spy on you.

AHA - so you liked that "insert some hideous stuff here" on facebook yesterday, what a c**t you are!!! Personally, when I was on facebook previously, I was even reluctant to click on "like", as somebody else could see what I liked. I'm sure there's some algorithm sitting in some dark computer room harvesting all your likes and combining it with other datapoints to see if you're a "person of interest". Wonder how many of the facebook users who think about that. Oh that's right - the only thing they think about is to getting their paycheck so they can buy the newest xbox game. Wink
sr. member
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ok one more thing I posted a block chain rap video and i got 20 likes but none of them dont even know what bitcoin is and what the blockchain is but they liked it.  LOL!!!!!
sr. member
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I see, but I tink what is a big distraction for many people learning this p2p is facebook.  All people care about is facebook.  


You might want to show them this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGEQmFL9McU

Some will complain and say: I use facebook to keep in touch with friends and family! If they really wanted to keep in touch, then make a visit or at least a phone call, or video call.

All these meaningless short comments in social media amounts to nothing.

If you're not on facebook, and your facebook friends does not get in thouch within 90 days, it must be assumed they're not really friends. And what waste is it to spend life communicating with such people? We also knows lots of companies are on facebook to "keep in touch" with their customers, but we all know the real reason, to extract the money from your pockets.

If you want meaning, do something in real life with a friend or with family, just browsing facebook to see what's happend or who's done what is rather stupid. I also think that most people who are really content with their life does not have this insane need to share it with everybody else. Some people are in reality more concerned with letting everyone know that they're on vacation to some tropical paradise than to actually enjoy being there.

It's nothing but hillarious when you see all the duckfaces making suggesting poses in front of the mirror, and then doing the same in groups, all for facebook. It's hillarious to be honest, it's like monkeys gone digital. Look at me, look at me - the one with the most likes is the most popular. Reality is quite different than the fake image that most people project on facebook.

Sure, I guess there are good uses for facebook for those not minding their privacy being raped, most people would be much better off without facebook. Most of the interaction is extremely superficial. If you post a nice image, lots of your friends will tell you you look great, but tell them you're moving the next weekend and see how many of them will come and use their saturday and sunday to help you for free. Not many I would reckon. Cheesy
Glad Im not the only who agrees but facebook has disconnected society to what is real and the real issues.  even though P2P is the answer for freedom hey they wont learn about it cause there to busy looking at people statuses, Mark Zuckerberg was right about people, I say about 80 percent of them will care what others are doing.  
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I see, but I tink what is a big distraction for many people learning this p2p is facebook.  All people care about is facebook. 


You might want to show them this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGEQmFL9McU

Some will complain and say: I use facebook to keep in touch with friends and family! If they really wanted to keep in touch, then make a visit or at least a phone call, or video call.

All these meaningless short comments in social media amounts to nothing.

If you're not on facebook, and your facebook friends does not get in thouch within 90 days, it must be assumed they're not really friends. And what waste is it to spend life communicating with such people? We also knows lots of companies are on facebook to "keep in touch" with their customers, but we all know the real reason, to extract the money from your pockets.

If you want meaning, do something in real life with a friend or with family, just browsing facebook to see what's happend or who's done what is rather stupid. I also think that most people who are really content with their life does not have this insane need to share it with everybody else. Some people are in reality more concerned with letting everyone know that they're on vacation to some tropical paradise than to actually enjoy being there.

It's nothing but hillarious when you see all the duckfaces making suggesting poses in front of the mirror, and then doing the same in groups, all for facebook. It's hillarious to be honest, it's like monkeys gone digital. Look at me, look at me - the one with the most likes is the most popular. Reality is quite different than the fake image that most people project on facebook.

Sure, I guess there are good uses for facebook for those not minding their privacy being raped, most people would be much better off without facebook. Most of the interaction is extremely superficial. If you post a nice image, lots of your friends will tell you you look great, but tell them you're moving the next weekend and see how many of them will come and use their saturday and sunday to help you for free. Not many I would reckon. Cheesy
sr. member
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I see, but I tink what is a big distraction for many people learning this p2p is facebook.  All people care about is facebook. 
legendary
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Your country may be your worst enemy
Your application for bank account can be declined, your account can be closed without giving you any reason. So you have to have an account, but no one can guarantee that you will get one.


I'm not totally sure, but I think anyone can get a bank account in France. It might come from the EU. Any citizen is entitled to a bank account (getting a credit card is different). I know that to get any benefit, or social security, a bank account is required.

Back to the subject, this is just another awful lie to control all financial activities. Closing all my bank accounts within the Euro zone was one of the best decisions I've ever made.
legendary
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The question is, will this drive bitcoin usage?

yes, because bitcoin don't have the limitations for big payments (like 1000 euro per day, for vacancy motel or other usually big invoice).
for me, it's the actual thing that it will (like paypal to use emial/pass instead of multiple codes) enpowered bitcoin to people.
legendary
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The question is, who will benefit the most from increased control of cash trade? The people or the government? I think the answer is clear.. But they are using these acts of terror as a wrench to get their way.

they want destroy the bank-run feature ... and they have do the job (in france).

on ATM, you can only retrieve 500 euro per day or 1600 euro per month (yes ... with a normal credit card even if you have more on bank account)

the final goal is to swap money with bank action at the end to destroy the whole debt limitation.

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thant why i have swap the 94% bank account in bitcoin in 2014.
6% is only for usual month bills.

but merchand are so cold ... to pay with bitcoin.
legendary
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not alot of people are aware of p2p, I will see p2p being used for geeks only.  Maybe the younger generation are the ones will use it the most.

just like twenty years ago not a lot of people are aware of internet, it was geeks only.
legendary
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not alot of people are aware of p2p, I will see p2p being used for geeks only.  Maybe the younger generation are the ones will use it the most.

There are millions of torrent users who are well aware of the benefits of p2p. Perhaps it'll take the odd legacy financial system calamity for more to wake up to the idea of p2p money, but it's likely the day will come. It's too obvious an idea not to appeal to a decent number of people.
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It's only temporary fix for such limitations. Bitcoin's unregulated for now, but only for now. If it will be a sizeable chunk of daily financial operations it will regulated and legit companies will have to obey these regulations.
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The more Bitcoin gets accepted, the better.
Country to another country transactions will be a lot easier and almost instant.

but a bit more risky and unprotected, won't it?
legendary
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I'll quote here my reply to a similar topic:

I believe the limit in France is 3000 euros, reducing to 1000 is not that big change.

Plus, they are planning this change for like 2 or 3 years now, why did this became news after all this time?

In my country, Portugal, the 1000 euros limit exists since 2012, previous limit was around 10,000 euros, this is pretty common around EU, it's a measure to fight tax evasion by companies.

There was no increase in bitcoin search because of the 1000 euros limit since 2012, bitcoin is quite unknown in Portugal, and the majority of people, probably, don't even know there's such a limit.

Now for the French situation, does 3000 to 1000 such a really big change?

Do French people carry around with them thousands of euros in cash so they can pay big purchases in cash?
sr. member
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not alot of people are aware of p2p, I will see p2p being used for geeks only.  Maybe the younger generation are the ones will use it the most.
legendary
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English <-> Portuguese translations
The more Bitcoin gets accepted, the better.
Country to another country transactions will be a lot easier and almost instant.
legendary
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As most people are still unaware of bitcoin itself and its benefits most likely we will not see a sudden change in the near future.
sr. member
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If I understand this correctly, the limit of 1000 euro is for a single cash transaction. If so, that itself shouldn't increase demand for Bitcoin. After all, you can still use cash for black-market transactions (I don't imagine your local drug/weapon/explosives dealer would voluntarily limit himself to 1k/tx).

On the other hand, such limits could and will piss off a large number of people (who don't have to much trust in banks and like to have control over their own finances) and push them to look for alternative to fiat money. And this could create a higher quality demand (but not immediate).

What annoys me the most, is that governments effectively enforce everyone to use banks (private, commercial institutions), without providing proper customer protection. Your application for bank account can be declined, your account can be closed without giving you any reason. So you have to have an account, but no one can guarantee that you will get one.

But I don't think cash money will disappear anytime soon.

I think the more the government try to take control, the more p2p will get out of hand, so the govs are there own undoing.
legendary
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If I understand this correctly, the limit of 1000 euro is for a single cash transaction. If so, that itself shouldn't increase demand for Bitcoin. After all, you can still use cash for black-market transactions (I don't imagine your local drug/weapon/explosives dealer would voluntarily limit himself to 1k/tx).

On the other hand, such limits could and will piss off a large number of people (who don't have to much trust in banks and like to have control over their own finances) and push them to look for alternative to fiat money. And this could create a higher quality demand (but not immediate).

What annoys me the most, is that governments effectively enforce everyone to use banks (private, commercial institutions), without providing proper customer protection. Your application for bank account can be declined, your account can be closed without giving you any reason. So you have to have an account, but no one can guarantee that you will get one.

But I don't think cash money will disappear anytime soon.
sr. member
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I think most of the unbanked ppl will suffer the most, especially those tourists, immigrants, or those who hates depositing in banks which charges them negative interest rates.

I am not sure about the immigrants, but tourists can use credit cards and tourism attractions should cost less than 1000 E.
legendary
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I think most of the unbanked ppl will suffer the most, especially those tourists, immigrants, or those who hates depositing in banks which charges them negative interest rates.

I don't think anyone likes depositing into banks with negative interest rates!
When people start holding cash, then governments will have to start heavily controlling cash transactions, that is when Bitcoin will really come into it's own, if you ask me.

There needs to be more places accepting bitcoin for a major influx to occur, but it is happening slowly.
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