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Quote from: crazywack on November 27, 2016, 01:07:33 PM

Do you know what he did to his people? How badly he oppressed his country?

Brainwashed liberal youth everywhere think that Fidel Castro and Che Guevara are some god like figures. These idiots don't know anything about the history. They should interact with the Cuban refugees to find out what Castro did to that country.

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Quote from: crazywack on November 27, 2016, 08:26:31 AM

Says the guy with the swastica... The Russians were allied with them, you know that right? Communist? Kinda goes against that profile pic of yours.

oh shit i had no idea let me go edit my post

Do you know what he did to his people? How badly he oppressed his country?

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Quote from: SyGambler on November 27, 2016, 10:23:38 AM

whatever people here are saying that doesn't change the fact that Castro is a hero and of course not all of people will agree cause this how politics work. he survived more than 600 killing attempts from the US and died at 90 , this is alone a great achievement

The Americans tried to assassinate anyone who didn't agree with their policies. Sometimes, these attempts are successful (examples are Patrice Lumumba of Zaire, Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam, Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic, and Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso). Other attempts were unsuccessful (Fidel Castro of Cuba, Norodom Sihanouk of Cambodia.etc).

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It's always easier to fight for principles than to live up to them. That what applies to Fidel Castro.

He may have started his revolution out of the morally sound motive to free people from dictatorship, but ended up becoming a dictator himself. That kind of career is symptomatic for many revolutionary leaders, who are absorbed by principles, but not by compassion for the people.

So it's definitely a day of liberation for Cuba. However if the country has a brighter future remains to be seen...

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whatever people here are saying that doesn't change the fact that Castro is a hero and of course not all of people will agree cause this how politics work
he survived more than 600 killing attempts from the US and died at 90 , this is alone a great achievement

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Quote from: Milkduds on November 26, 2016, 04:33:21 PM

Fidel and Raul are very similar,in fact Raul is more extreme in a lot of aspects when it comes to the Socialist bend.
True change will not come under him either,in fact the changes right now are out of survival with the other Socialist superpowers all falling apart.
Would not dance on Fidels grave but I also do not shed any tears for the man as long as the people suffer for believing in or being forced to believe in a different way of life.

Can't agree with that statement. Raul seems to be a moderate compared to Fidel. I agree that before assuming power, he had a reputation for being a ruthless extremist. But his policies have changed since then. He has become more moderate and conciliatory. He is solely responsible for the recent upswing in the relations with the United States.

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Quote from: crazywack on November 27, 2016, 08:26:31 AM

Says the guy with the swastica... The Russians were allied with them, you know that right? Communist? Kinda goes against that profile pic of yours.

oh shit i had no idea let me go edit my post

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Quote from: Dizaster2015 on November 26, 2016, 03:57:27 PM

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With the death of Fidel Castro end of an era rooted in the cold war era. And it is now gaining momentum a new round of it. I hope this time the Cubans will not repeat their mistakes.

It's not up to them, Fidels' brother is the president, and I believe they share the same kind of thinking.

Recently his brother Raul Castro runs Cuba. Positive changes are visible. If he will not let people to change course, and now they feel the change and they have something to fight for.

I hope the US has learnt its lessons about regime change - either you fail like you did with Fidel Castro. Or you think you succeed, and then you realize how big a failure it was, like in the case of Saddam Hussein. Raul may be worse than Fidel, but America should let Cuba decide its own future.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on November 27, 2016, 08:19:31 AM

this was a very great man

Says the guy with the swastica... The Russians were allied with them, you know that right? Communist? Kinda goes against that profile pic of yours.

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this was a very great man

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Quote from: fiscorcle on November 26, 2016, 02:38:48 AM

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Quote from: fiscorcle on November 26, 2016, 02:05:48 AM

Completely free!

Grin

First U.S citizens are allowed into the country and that might have caused him to have a heart attack.

One communist country has fallen and 4 more too go! Wink

Not sure him Being dead will do anything for their freedom. His brother is still in charge.

But while having his brother in power all the doors have been opening to their country and for their people, slowly, but it has been happening while Fidel was dying in his bed. Just like the old king in Braveheart. Cheesy

That's due to their need to expand economic growth out of self interests. Not because the ol USA is going to be on their side.

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You don't think he was really running the country do you? At 90 yo it's likely all he's been doing for the last couple of years is drooling and pissing on himself.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 26, 2016, 08:29:17 PM

Quote from: Milkduds on November 26, 2016, 04:33:21 PM

Fidel and Raul are very similar,in fact Raul is more extreme in a lot of aspects when it comes to the Socialist bend.
True change will not come under him either,in fact the changes right now are out of survival with the other Socialist superpowers all falling apart.
Would not dance on Fidels grave but I also do not shed any tears for the man as long as the people suffer for believing in or being forced to believe in a different way of life.

Fidel Castro wasn't such dictator as Kim Jong Un or presidents of few African countries. But he was one of the most important persons in XX century.
Not long time ago Cuba renewed diplomatic relations to USA. But it's stil comunist country and situation won't change in nearest future. Dinasty of Castro have big power and respect from citizens of Cuba. Economy of Cuba is weak and many people in this country are poor.
But for me it's very strange and nice to see pictures of Cuba, where people rides with classic american cars made in mid of previous century or old cars made in Soviet Union.

All I stated was he was not the worst out of the two brothers. As for the history,who is to know really if it could have worked,to many powers where limiting Socialism from breathing,it forced odd bed fellows to come together. I never really liked how the whole Che aspect went down and that for me was what made me not a big fan of Fidel.

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Quote from: Milkduds on November 26, 2016, 04:33:21 PM

Fidel and Raul are very similar,in fact Raul is more extreme in a lot of aspects when it comes to the Socialist bend.
True change will not come under him either,in fact the changes right now are out of survival with the other Socialist superpowers all falling apart.
Would not dance on Fidels grave but I also do not shed any tears for the man as long as the people suffer for believing in or being forced to believe in a different way of life.

Fidel Castro wasn't such dictator as Kim Jong Un or presidents of few African countries. But he was one of the most important persons in XX century.
Not long time ago Cuba renewed diplomatic relations to USA. But it's stil comunist country and situation won't change in nearest future. Dinasty of Castro have big power and respect from citizens of Cuba. Economy of Cuba is weak and many people in this country are poor.
But for me it's very strange and nice to see pictures of Cuba, where people rides with classic american cars made in mid of previous century or old cars made in Soviet Union.

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Fidel and Raul are very similar,in fact Raul is more extreme in a lot of aspects when it comes to the Socialist bend.
True change will not come under him either,in fact the changes right now are out of survival with the other Socialist superpowers all falling apart.
Would not dance on Fidels grave but I also do not shed any tears for the man as long as the people suffer for believing in or being forced to believe in a different way of life.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on November 26, 2016, 03:52:38 PM

Quote from: Dizaster2015 on November 26, 2016, 03:48:44 PM

With the death of Fidel Castro end of an era rooted in the cold war era. And it is now gaining momentum a new round of it. I hope this time the Cubans will not repeat their mistakes.

It's not up to them, Fidels' brother is the president, and I believe they share the same kind of thinking.

Recently his brother Raul Castro runs Cuba. Positive changes are visible. If he will not let people to change course, and now they feel the change and they have something to fight for.

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Quote from: Dizaster2015 on November 26, 2016, 03:48:44 PM

With the death of Fidel Castro end of an era rooted in the cold war era. And it is now gaining momentum a new round of it. I hope this time the Cubans will not repeat their mistakes.

It's not up to them, Fidels' brother is the president, and I believe they share the same kind of thinking.

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Quote from: beafheart on November 26, 2016, 10:50:30 AM

Quote from: clickerz on November 26, 2016, 10:45:56 AM

Farewell to this great man. He stands the bullying from other country and propel his nation to great success. Their healthcare,Cuban health systema nd research is one of the best in the world. UN even recognized them. Rest In Peace Pres. Fidel Castro.

The best medicine in the United States and Israel. Cuba is not even close to is in this list. You probably have something confused. Cuba one of the poorest countries in the world.

To Great success? What is the success? staying hungry for the longest i the world? Many, many European countries have a better health care system.. Rest in peace Dictator* Fidel Castro.

One less commie tho

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With the death of Fidel Castro end of an era rooted in the cold war era. And it is now gaining momentum a new round of it. I hope this time the Cubans will not repeat their mistakes.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2016, 08:58:02 AM

Quote from: crazywack on November 26, 2016, 02:10:28 AM

Not sure him Being dead will do anything for their freedom. His brother is still in charge.

And after his brother, his son will be made the leader. Fidel Castro spent millions of USD every year to lead a luxurious lifestyle, when ordinary Cubans were struggling to feed themselves. Fidel Castro was a clone of Kim Jong Il.

I wouldn't say he's a clone on Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Il and Un are much worse, with the killing, stealing, not caring... Castro is just a commie, and this is how every communism end, as a dictatorship, starts as a noble movement with a revolution and end in "spent millions of USD every year to lead a luxurious lifestyle, when ordinary Cubans were struggling to feed themselves"...

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