Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained!

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 12:20:40 PM

http://businessprofiles.com/details/gregory-w-vleisides-p-c/US-MO-P00257304

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GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. was formed on 1983-10-20 in Missouri by PETER J. KOPPE.

FORMATION
Universal ID
US-MO-P00257304

Name
GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C.

Registration Number
P00257304

Type
Professional Corporation

Formation Date
1983-10-20

OFFICERS
Registered Agent
PETER J. KOPPE

https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/corp.asp?214213

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Business Name History
Name   Name Type
BUSINESS BROKERS PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS, INC.   Legal
General Business - Domestic - Information
Charter Number:   00233440
Status:   Forfeited
Entity Creation Date:   8/5/1981
State of Business.:   MO
Expiration Date:   Perpetual
Last Registration Report Filed Date:
Last Registration Report Filed:   0
Registration Report Month:   August
Registered Agent
Agent Name:   PETER J. KOPPE, ESQ.
Office Address:   25 EAST 12TH STREET-11TH FLOOR
KANSAS CITY MO 64106

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ButterflyLabs.com
25 E 12th Street
Kansas City, MO 64106

There is definitly something up with BFL. I bet a large percentage of preorders will never recieve what the ordered.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 27, 2013, 07:18:34 PM

Quote from: Este Nuno on June 27, 2013, 03:26:05 PM

As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol.

In your readings, did you get to the part yet that Sonny Vleisides of BFL is his real son?

Yes I did. And I'm surprised that Sonny talks about LFC like it was some real project that his father was the creator of as opposed to a scam.

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Posted: 7/10/2001 12:11:42 PM

By: El Guacamole

Seems like about every scam artist under the sun has used, promoted, or been involved with "Laissez Faire City" over the years -- draw from that what you want.

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Quote from: BitSmile on June 27, 2013, 10:07:14 PM

Wait a moment:
Ashish Gulhati's Overview

Current
Chief Developer at Neomailbox
Owner at Netropolis Technologies
Past
Senior Developer at Laissez Faire City
Webmaster at The American Reporter
Columnist, Technology Journalist at CyberMedia
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So does this conflict with your theory that hashish gulhati is Satoshi?

Au contraire!

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Wait a moment:
Ashish Gulhati's Overview

Current
Chief Developer at Neomailbox
Owner at Netropolis Technologies
Past
Senior Developer at Laissez Faire City
Webmaster at The American Reporter
Columnist, Technology Journalist at CyberMedia
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So does this conflict with your theory that hashish gulhati is Satoshi?

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 27, 2013, 07:18:34 PM

Quote from: Este Nuno on June 27, 2013, 03:26:05 PM

As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol.

In your readings, did you get to the part yet that Sonny Vleisides of BFL is his real son?

Once you get up to speed, then... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/privacy1/message/43

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By the way, I mentioned Laissez Faire City soem time ago in a post.
Well, I went to see them the other day, and it really looks like they
are both legitimate and they have their act together and they have
substantial backing, just like I was told.

I spent a wonderful afternoon talking to the City Clerk last week, and
they have a lot to offer all of us at a very fair price. Plus, you can
also have a home base at the embassy when you visit Costa rica.

I know that much scepticism is created due to the internet's
impersonality. We simply type in messages and prepare web pages, but
unless you meet the people involved, it's sometimes easy to jump to
hasty conclusions. Well, that's what I did a few months ago, as some of
you recall, concerning this project.

Their new stock market is supposed to be online in a couple of months,
and they are working as fast as they can to redesign their web pages,
but I can tell you that this is not a rip off. These peple have a very
impressive headquarters in one of the nicest, if not the nicest,
neighborhoods in Costa Rica, and they have other freedom loving
individuals living in that same neighborhood. In fact, I hope to move
over there in a month or two.

They have lots of innovative services which I hope to tell you about
over the next couple of months. It's just too bad all of you can't
just pick up and move down here. However, they have plans to start
communiites of like minded people all over the world.
Anyway, enough on that for now. I'll give you more details as I learn
more and visit them again. They are clear on the other side of town
now, so the most I could go there is a couple of times a month, but it
sure will be enjoyable.

John

Highlighted above, the City Clerk was...wait for it (as if you didn't already know)...Sonny Vleisides, the CEO/President of BFL.

The author is John Allen who is Robert Demes. Some people have a hard time giving up their sock puppets.

http://costaricaeasy.net/profile-264/

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Robert DemesAugust is almost always the best month for Bill Fish in Guanacaste due to the migration for spawning! Roosters are inshore, lot's fun - big fight and always there - live bait is best if you want a Big One!

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This The Real Libertarian Webring site is owned by John Allen

http://www.privacy.li/forum/viewtopic.php?t=237

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John Allen (the rumor has it that his real name is Robert Demes) who has specialised to scalp expats in Costa Rica, at http://www.destiny-worldwide.net/

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Quote from: Este Nuno on June 27, 2013, 03:26:05 PM

As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol.

In your readings, did you get to the part yet that Sonny Vleisides of BFL is his real son?

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As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 08:42:22 PM

Quote from: greyhawk on June 26, 2013, 03:28:41 PM

Quote from: Este Nuno on June 26, 2013, 03:26:25 PM

Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?

That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months.

You're damn right they believe it. Read the following account, with apologies for the cached link, for the site has blocked my IP: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DUTIv88KsJIJ:community.netidea.com/echan/lfcity.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Best minds' is no hyperbole. Just look over their Laissez Faire City Times newspaper on line and gauge for yourself what formidable intellects roam LF City's precincts. And such fun people too! Now THAT is the point!

Returning to their home countries, over the year-end holidays of 1994, the group communicated by fax, telephone and e-mail to debate the process and actualize the
founding verbiage. They employed lawyers and trustees to carry out their resolve.
Accumulated grant moneys were turned over to the new trustee; and the attorneys
subsequently recorded the founding trust documents at the public registrar of two
separate internationally recognized jurisdictions.

The Laissez Faire City International Trust was formalized on January 1, 1995.

And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself....

The new founders where Sonny Vleisides and his Daddy-O, Jame Ray Houston, known as Rex Rogers to all those who paid the $6,000 membership fee to join. The lottery scheme started at the same time.

I'm starting to wonder if Libertarianism should carry the same negative connotation as the word dogma.

i.e. I don't follow the ~~Catholic~~ Libertarian dogma.

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Quote from: greyhawk on June 26, 2013, 03:28:41 PM

Quote from: Este Nuno on June 26, 2013, 03:26:25 PM

Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?

That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months.

You're damn right they believe it. Read the following account, with apologies for the cached link, for the site has blocked my IP: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DUTIv88KsJIJ:community.netidea.com/echan/lfcity.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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Best minds' is no hyperbole. Just look over their Laissez Faire City Times newspaper on line and gauge for yourself what formidable intellects roam LF City's precincts. And such fun people too! Now THAT is the point!

Returning to their home countries, over the year-end holidays of 1994, the group communicated by fax, telephone and e-mail to debate the process and actualize the
founding verbiage. They employed lawyers and trustees to carry out their resolve.
Accumulated grant moneys were turned over to the new trustee; and the attorneys
subsequently recorded the founding trust documents at the public registrar of two
separate internationally recognized jurisdictions.

The Laissez Faire City International Trust was formalized on January 1, 1995.

And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself....

The new founders where Sonny Vleisides and his Daddy-O, Jame Ray Houston, known as Rex Rogers to all those who paid the $6,000 membership fee to join. The lottery scheme started at the same time.

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Quote from: Este Nuno on June 26, 2013, 03:26:25 PM

Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?

That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months.

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Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?

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Quote from: davout on June 26, 2013, 02:17:37 PM

Proceed...

I remember this game

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I just tried calling Peter.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020328222408/http://www.pkoppelaw.com/

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Peter J. Koppe
Attorney-At-Law
6730 NW Tower Drive
Platte Woods, Missouri 64151
email: [email protected]

Telephone (816) 587-5300
Pager (816) 346-6466
Fax (816) 587-5336

Family Law, Criminal Defense, Personal Injury, Torts, Traffic Law

Peter J. Koppe, born Cincinnati, Ohio, May 3, 1950, admitted to Missouri Bar, 1977, U.S. Supreme Court, 1983
Education: Washington University-St Louis, Mo (A.B. History 1972) University of Missouri-Kansas City (J.D. 1977)
Member: Northland Optimist Club, Kansas City, 1980 Governor, West Mo. District, Optimist Internation, 1988-89,
Chairman, Developmental Disabilities Board, Clay County, Mo, 1994, Member 1992-94

But he no longer uses that number...because...

http://ssdmf.info/by_birthdate/19500503.html

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PETER J KOPPE was born 03 May 1950, got Social Security number 500-52-2226 (indicating Missouri,) and died 06 July 2006.

I guess I'll just add him to the list currently containing Sonny K. and Ninja Lady. Soon, they're be as many on this list as there are on a similar list related to Laissez Faire City. Maybe Sonny K. and NL can be found below the same bridge that two founders of LFC used to end it all.

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Maybe we should call Peter and see if it has meaning.

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Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on June 26, 2013, 12:33:24 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 12:31:06 PM

Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?

All the pieces are starting to fit together now.

I haven't been following all the BFL shenanigans, what does this mean exactly?

Humor me, and pretend this does have meaning, but...

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 12:31:06 PM

Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?

All the pieces are starting to fit together now.

I haven't been following all the BFL shenanigans, what does this mean exactly?

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Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?

All the pieces are starting to fit together now.

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