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Topic: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] (Read 81241 times)

BCB
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kind of amazed at how this one panned out. He actually went to jail?? Lots of people would be happy though. Will they ever get back their money?

(BTW title should be changed to "Find Trendon Shavers in prison thread")

The Plot thickens.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6bsil0/loaded_admits_to_holding_coins_that_may_or_may/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3648319
https://blockchain.info/address/1491KpNqoY1vGE2Rzdd76BCsuXK7QepNGU
As you can see from the Bitcointalk message, Loaded states he has holdings of ~158,000 Bitcoins. Those coins were a single hop away from the notorious 1DkyB address. Speculation from 2012 was that this address was the main repository of Pirateat40's Bitcoin Savings & Trust ponzi scheme. Loaded has since signed messages with Bitcoin private keys that control coins poorly tumbled from the address that contained 158k BTC (since there was no Joinmarket or any mixing service that could handle that amount of BTC).
It is possible "Loaded" is Trendon Shavers.
legendary
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kind of amazed at how this one panned out. He actually went to jail?? Lots of people would be happy though. Will they ever get back their money?

(BTW title should be changed to "Find Trendon Shavers in prison thread")
legendary
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https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/07/28/trendon-shavers-sentenced-18-month-prison-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

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The federal case has finally concluded and Shavers will be serving 18 months in a federal corrections facility. Shavers was also required to forfeit $1.2m and pay $1.2m in restitution. When the 18 months is served, another three years of supervised release will be required.

I suppose the funds were confiscated as illegal gains, so they go straight into govs pockets, right?

Ente

"Restitution". Restitution to whom?

Restitution to the legal thives a.k.a. US Gov.
You should never steal that much money. The government doesn't like competition...
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From
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/07/28/trendon-shavers-sentenced-18-month-prison-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

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The federal case has finally concluded and Shavers will be serving 18 months in a federal corrections facility. Shavers was also required to forfeit $1.2m and pay $1.2m in restitution. When the 18 months is served, another three years of supervised release will be required.

I suppose the funds were confiscated as illegal gains, so they go straight into govs pockets, right?

Ente

"Restitution". Restitution to whom?
legendary
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From
https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/07/28/trendon-shavers-sentenced-18-month-prison-bitcoin-ponzi-scheme/

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The federal case has finally concluded and Shavers will be serving 18 months in a federal corrections facility. Shavers was also required to forfeit $1.2m and pay $1.2m in restitution. When the 18 months is served, another three years of supervised release will be required.

I suppose the funds were confiscated as illegal gains, so they go straight into govs pockets, right?

Ente
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FYI,  for those catching up.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/feds-announce-1st-bitcoin-securities-fraud-case-26734204

US Announces 1st Bitcoin Securities Fraud Case
NEW YORK — Nov 6, 2014, 12:47 PM ET
By LARRY NEUMEISTER Associated Press
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If convicted, he could face up to 40 years in prison.
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I have no idea about rules/laws etc etc.. but I just assumed if the FBI is involved they do something excting...
guess not..

So he's paying back the 40 million.... very slow or not at all ?
sr. member
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I just read the last page.... wow...FBI did  a pretty good job.

When do they decide to put him in jail ? Or is the $40 mill fine the only penalty?

I don't think jail time can ever be the outcome of a civil case.

The civil case is the 40m fine.  A criminal case was brought against him more recently , AFAIK.
legendary
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I just read the last page.... wow...FBI did  a pretty good job.

When do they decide to put him in jail ? Or is the $40 mill fine the only penalty?

I don't think jail time can ever be the outcome of a civil case.
legendary
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I just read the last page.... wow...FBI did  a pretty good job.

When do they decide to put him in jail ? Or is the $40 mill fine the only penalty?
BCB
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I'm sure the investigators would love the databases/record of the many pass throughs (if they don't already have them). My guess is you would have to cryptographically prove a chain of ownership (while also being able to prove that you didn't withdraw more bitcoin from the scheme then your total input).  

If you look at the madoff case, just today, 6 years later, they are still recovering funds.  
"total recovered from the scam had topped $10 billion or around 59 cents on the dollar of the investors' principal"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102287847

Again, no one but the authorities probably have any idea if there are any assets anywhere.  

It will be interesting to see how recovery unfolds in this case.
legendary
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Thank you for keeping this threaad alive with info.
So far it all looks good for Trendon to finally end up in jail.

Hypothetically, if funds would show up to reimburse victims, who would receive some? Only people who are "registered" with Moustakis? How about people with a middleman in between, like Ian Grices payb.tc?

Ah, well, I'll be all happy if we finally see jail-time happening. And chances are good.

Ente
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The civil case is over and Shavers was fined $40 million dollars.  But if he doesn't have the funds no one is getting paid back.   

There is now a criminal case for Securities and Wire Fraud. 
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/November14/TrendonShaversArrest/Shavers,%20Trendon%20Complaint.PDF

When convicted Shavers will face jail time.  However again unless he has assets or the authorities can find any bitcoin he has hidden I doubt there will be a payout to victims.  I thing most victims at this point would be satisfied to see Shavers go to jail.

However, as happened in the Madoff case, the authorities could pursue anyone who profited from the BTCST investment scheme and "claw back" any profits.  This would then form a pool of funds to pay back victims proportionally to the amount the victims lost against any amount the authorities can recover.  I know of victims who lost 10,000 btc and more to the scheme so I would guess a proportional about for your 100 btc would be nominal unless they somehow make full recovery.

You already have Moustakis's info who was the SEC lawyer in charge of the the civil case.

Looking at the attached DOJ complaint it looks like ERIC BURNS is the FBI Special Agent in the Southern District of New York in charge of the Criminal Case.  You could try to contact him. But again with out any funds to recover there will be no repayment to victims.
zaj
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i'm far from a law genius.. what steps should you take as someone living outside the US to recover some of your coins IF it would ever be possible? i've had contact with that moustakis philips guy from the SEC and i had to give up my amount i lost and my name etc. but that is all i have done so far. 100 bitcoins at the time was only about  was only about 1000$ but still...
BCB
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Shavers is expected to appear on Nov. 14 in federal court in Manhattan after his case is transferred.

Anyone in NYC want to stop by and say Hi to Trendon.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/06/bitcoin-charges-idUSL1N0SW26620141106

UPDATE 1-Texan charged in first bitcoin securities fraud Ponzi case
Thu Nov 6, 2014 2:39pm EST

(Adds Bharara comment, 2nd paragraph; defendant's court appearance, additional case citation, paragraphs 10-12)

By Jonathan Stempel

Nov 6 (Reuters) - A Texas man who operated Bitcoin Savings and Trust was charged on Thursday with bilking his investors, in what prosecutors called the first federal criminal securities fraud case arising from a bitcoin-related Ponzi scheme.

Trendon Shavers, 32, of McKinney, Texas, was charged with misappropriating about 146,000 of the 764,000 bitcoin, then worth more than $4.5 million, that he raised from September 2011 to September 2012 by promising investors "absurdly high" interest rates, U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara in Manhattan said.

Bitcoin is a virtual currency that trades on the Internet, without the backing of any government or central bank.

The criminal case follows a Sept. 18 order by a federal judge in Texas that Shavers give up $40.7 million comprising illegal profit, interest and fines in a related U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission civil lawsuit.

Known online as "pirateat40," Shavers allegedly gained control of as much as 7 percent of the bitcoin market by promising investors up to 7 percent weekly interest, or 3,641 percent annualized, based on his ability to trade the currency, and a promise that money could be withdrawn at any time.

Instead, Shavers allegedly used new bitcoin to repay old investors, add to his account at the now-bankrupt Mt. Gox exchange, and fund expenses that included a used BMW M5 sedan, spa treatments, casino visits and a $1,000 dinner at Gallagher's Steakhouse in Las Vegas.

About half the investors in Bitcoin Savings and Trust, which was not incorporated and which Shavers ran by himself, lost some or all of their investments, prosecutors said.

"Trendon Shavers managed to combine financial and cyber fraud into a bitcoin Ponzi scheme that offered absurdly high interest payments, and ultimately cheated his investors out of their bitcoin investments," Bharara said in a statement. "This case, the first of its kind, should serve as a warning to those looking to make a quick buck with unsecured currency."

Shavers was charged with securities fraud and wire fraud, and faces up to 20 years in prison on each count if convicted.

The defendant was arrested at his home on Thursday morning, and later made an appearance before U.S. Magistrate Judge Amos Mazzant in the northeastern Texas city of Sherman near the Oklahoma border. Shavers is expected to appear on Nov. 14 in federal court in Manhattan after his case is transferred.

A lawyer for Shavers could not immediately be reached. Shavers did not immediately respond to an email request for comment. His ability to pay the SEC judgment was unclear.

The cases are U.S. v. Shavers, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 14-mag-02465, and U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas, No. 14-mj-00355; and SEC v. Shavers et al, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas, No. 13-00416. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Leslie Adler and Jonathan Oatis)
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If convicted, he could face up to 40 years in prison.
Nice

I wonder what all those scammers think when they read such news... Smiley
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If convicted, he could face up to 40 years in prison.
Nice
BCB
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FYI,  for those catching up.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/feds-announce-1st-bitcoin-securities-fraud-case-26734204

US Announces 1st Bitcoin Securities Fraud Case
NEW YORK — Nov 6, 2014, 12:47 PM ET
By LARRY NEUMEISTER Associated Press
 Associated Press
The federal government on Thursday announced its first bitcoin securities fraud case, accusing a Texas man of engineering a Ponzi scheme by getting people to turn over their bitcoins in return for promises of high interest rates and the ability to recoup their investment at any time.

Trendon Shavers, of McKinney, awaited an initial court appearance in Texas on securities fraud and wire fraud charges that were outlined in a criminal complaint unsealed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

"This case, the first of its kind, should serve as a warning to those looking to make a quick buck with unsecured currency," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a news release.

Bharara said the 32-year-old Shavers combined financial fraud and cyberfraud into a bitcoin Ponzi scheme offering "absurdly high interest payments, and ultimately cheated his investors out of their bitcoin investments."

At the peak of the scheme, Shavers possessed about 7 percent of all bitcoin in public circulation, prosecutors said.

George Venizelos, head of the FBI's New York office, said Shavers "used a new currency, but the same old reprehensible tricks."

"He claimed to offer a bitcoin market-arbitrage strategy. In reality, it was nothing more than an insidious scheme motivated by greed. Today, Shavers' jig is up," Venizelos said.

Bharara said Shavers caused about half of 100 investors to lose all or part of their bitcoin investment from at least September 2011 through September 2012 as he promised them up to 7 percent weekly interest and assured them they could withdraw their investment at any time if they turned over bitcoins.

Authorities say Shavers has already been ordered by a federal court in Texas to give up more than $40 million and pay a $150,000 penalty in a related civil case.

It isn't clear who will represent Shavers in court. Shavers did not immediately respond to a message for comment.

If convicted, he could face up to 40 years in prison.
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It sounds like not a single cent will be paid back to those who got screwed.

Most probably i think. Though i think a bitcoin scammer in jail is good news anyway for the community. At the moment bitcoin world is a scammer paradise. This should change. And trendon would be a good sign for that.

Still waiting for Jon to send you your coins, buddy?

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