Russia felt that the invasion of Ukraine would scare other countries from nursing the idea of joining NATO. They just shot themselves on the foot because more nations are joining the alliance because of fear that they might suffer the same fate with Ukraine. NATO has stated that it would take Finland and Sweden up-to one year to to join the alliance. For me I would have wanted NATO to speedup the process this is to ensure that these nations join NATO before Russia withdraws from Ukraine because Putin is unpredictable. He might invade Finland and Sweden just to make a political point or to portray Russia's fearlessness.
It is also important to state that Turkey is a major military player in the world polity. Turkey produces cheap but potent and sophisticated military hardware such as drones. Hence, they shouldn't be overlooked by Finland, Sweden and NATO. Turkey's differences with these two nations should be settled peacefully. And we shouldn't forget that all members of NATO must give approval before any new nation is allowed to join the alliance.
Topic: Finland and Sweden OFFICIALLY announce their intention to join NATO - page 2. (Read 318 times)
May 16, 2022, 01:23:31 PM
May 16, 2022, 07:49:43 AM
And a dog may try to chase two cars at once but I don't think that's going to work.
The Russian military having met with an unexpected fightback from the Ukrainian forces who have refused to back down without a fight, already have their military stretched. The decision of Finland and Sweden to join NATO may have been politically motivated as a measure to frustrate the Russian government, or a decision that has to been taken now while Russia is occupied with Ukraine and will not want to risk fighting too many wars. 
May 16, 2022, 07:15:12 AM
So can we now expect Putin’s "special military operation" in Finland as well? Russia has already threatened Finland with retaliatory measures. If it should prove to be correct, Moscow may take offensive military action on the eastern border of the another sovereign country.
I bet the Chinese would love to see Russia try to take on Finland and make itself even more vulnerable. What would Russians throw at them? Those traumatized soldiers who are thinking of giving up or harming themselves to be taken home?
At this point Russia wouldn't be able to win against Finland alone, and if Finland gets attacked Sweden will send troops to help. If they join NATO, attacking them would be throwing all of your army away because Russia was no match for NATO even before the war in Ukraine.
All Russia can do at this point is stall and hope to negotiate a ceasefire. If it attacks another country it's going to weaken its presence in Ukraine and Ukrainians will liberate everything and put Russian towns along the border under artillery fire.
May 16, 2022, 01:05:44 AM
The Russian government invaded Ukraine to prevent other Northern Europe countries from joining the NATO but it shows that some neighboring countries to Russia appear not to care about what the Russian may do after their decision in joining NATO.
All this happens because the Russian government is doing things with military force instead of them persuading and maturely talking with their neighboring countries about their decision in joining NATO.
In the meantime, let's wait and see if the Finland decision will push through.
All this happens because the Russian government is doing things with military force instead of them persuading and maturely talking with their neighboring countries about their decision in joining NATO.
In the meantime, let's wait and see if the Finland decision will push through.
I think they were just waiting for Ukraine to get invaded and when they saw the result was not what they expected, they quickly jump to conclusion that they really need to join NATO for their protection and support in case of a Russian sudden invasion. It seems like when they will be invaded as well in the future, they expected war supplies from their alliances and some sanctions against the invader. But things like this are not good for their country because what if they miscalculated? what if their country won't be invaded rather it would be destroyed with one single nuke? they need to consider reviewing back their decisions if they wanted to protect their citizens.
May 15, 2022, 10:20:25 PM
So can we now expect Putin’s "special military operation" in Finland as well? Russia has already threatened Finland with retaliatory measures. If it should prove to be correct, Moscow may take offensive military action on the eastern border of the another sovereign country.
And a dog may try to chase two cars at once but I don't think that's going to work.
May 15, 2022, 06:19:34 PM
So can we now expect Putin’s "special military operation" in Finland as well? Russia has already threatened Finland with retaliatory measures. If it should prove to be correct, Moscow may take offensive military action on the eastern border of the another sovereign country.
May 15, 2022, 04:02:57 PM
“The president and the government’s foreign policy committee have agreed that after consulting parliament, Finland will apply for Nato membership,” president, Sauli Niinistö, told a press conference.
“Our decision is historic. The most important thing is the safety of Finland and our citizens. The decision strengthens security and cooperation between the Nordic countries,” Prime Minister Sanna Marin said. She also said that she expects the Finnish parliament to accept this decision.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
General source:
The Guardian
You can read this news on every major news website.
Politically this might effect Russia a lot as more and more European countries are moving towards NATO which means more enemies for Russia on any given day, but geographically both these countries aren't that big a threat, They are located in Nordic Region and Finland just share a small border with Russia. But yes Russia might try to surpress this movement in Finland too by planting some official indirectly to change the government. “Our decision is historic. The most important thing is the safety of Finland and our citizens. The decision strengthens security and cooperation between the Nordic countries,” Prime Minister Sanna Marin said. She also said that she expects the Finnish parliament to accept this decision.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
General source:
The Guardian
You can read this news on every major news website.
May 15, 2022, 02:59:32 PM
“The president and the government’s foreign policy committee have agreed that after consulting parliament, Finland will apply for Nato membership,” president, Sauli Niinistö, told a press conference.
“Our decision is historic. The most important thing is the safety of Finland and our citizens. The decision strengthens security and cooperation between the Nordic countries,” Prime Minister Sanna Marin said. She also said that she expects the Finnish parliament to accept this decision.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
General source:
The Guardian
You can read this news on every major news website.
“Our decision is historic. The most important thing is the safety of Finland and our citizens. The decision strengthens security and cooperation between the Nordic countries,” Prime Minister Sanna Marin said. She also said that she expects the Finnish parliament to accept this decision.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
General source:
The Guardian
You can read this news on every major news website.
Erdogan's requests are are laughable. He says 'This is not populism', and it really is basically throwing this out just to be as neutral as much between Russia and NATO. Banning terorist organisations? A Turkish authoritarian pointing fingers? Also, havent PKK been off Europe's terorist organisation list since 2014?
May 15, 2022, 12:03:20 PM
Well Finland and possibly Sweden better get in fast while Russia is distracted with the whole Ukraine issue. At least Ukraine didn't suffer for nothing.
LOL is Turkey still bitter about not being allowed into the EU? Or there's some deal with Russia? Interesting to find out it's by consensus rather than by majority vote. Kinda like ASEAN and how China basically can veto anything that it disapprove via its proxies in the bloc.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
LOL is Turkey still bitter about not being allowed into the EU? Or there's some deal with Russia? Interesting to find out it's by consensus rather than by majority vote. Kinda like ASEAN and how China basically can veto anything that it disapprove via its proxies in the bloc.
Turkey can leave NATO anytime.
May 15, 2022, 11:52:54 AM
Well Finland and possibly Sweden better get in fast while Russia is distracted with the whole Ukraine issue. At least Ukraine didn't suffer for nothing.
LOL is Turkey still bitter about not being allowed into the EU? Or there's some deal with Russia? Interesting to find out it's by consensus rather than by majority vote. Kinda like ASEAN and how China basically can veto anything that it disapprove via its proxies in the bloc.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
LOL is Turkey still bitter about not being allowed into the EU? Or there's some deal with Russia? Interesting to find out it's by consensus rather than by majority vote. Kinda like ASEAN and how China basically can veto anything that it disapprove via its proxies in the bloc.
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May 15, 2022, 10:54:35 AM
The Russian government invaded Ukraine to prevent other Northern Europe countries from joining the NATO but it shows that some neighboring countries to Russia appear not to care about what the Russian may do after their decision in joining NATO.
All this happens because the Russian government is doing things with military force instead of them persuading and maturely talking with their neighboring countries about their decision in joining NATO.
In the meantime, let's wait and see if the Finland decision will push through.
All this happens because the Russian government is doing things with military force instead of them persuading and maturely talking with their neighboring countries about their decision in joining NATO.
In the meantime, let's wait and see if the Finland decision will push through.
May 15, 2022, 08:47:24 AM
“The president and the government’s foreign policy committee have agreed that after consulting parliament, Finland will apply for Nato membership,” president, Sauli Niinistö, told a press conference.
“Our decision is historic. The most important thing is the safety of Finland and our citizens. The decision strengthens security and cooperation between the Nordic countries,” Prime Minister Sanna Marin said. She also said that she expects the Finnish parliament to accept this decision.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
General source:
The Guardian
You can read this news on every major news website.
Thread Edit
Today not only Finland but some hours later Sweden also approved NATO membership bid!
“Our decision is historic. The most important thing is the safety of Finland and our citizens. The decision strengthens security and cooperation between the Nordic countries,” Prime Minister Sanna Marin said. She also said that she expects the Finnish parliament to accept this decision.
Reminder:
The process of joining the US-led military bloc NATO requires the approval of the existing 30 member states. At the moment Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO [Source: Reuters]
General source:
The Guardian
You can read this news on every major news website.
Thread Edit
Today not only Finland but some hours later Sweden also approved NATO membership bid!
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