Finsbury Park attack:one dead in 'potential terrorist attack' near London mosque - page 2.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on June 20, 2017, 01:06:11 PM

This world is so insane, Truck of Peace hits even Muslims now. No excuses though, Muslim, Christian or whatever, you drive that truck, you should die too.

Quote from: coolcoinz on June 19, 2017, 03:02:40 PM

People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups. For naturalized dual-citizens, revoke citizenship and deport them to their other country. For mono-citizens, look them up without bail or parole.

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups..

Yes deport him back he was an immigrant he was welsh Cheesy

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Well he done it in London..
So yes deport him Cheesy

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on June 20, 2017, 01:06:11 PM

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups. For naturalized dual-citizens, revoke citizenship and deport them to their other country. For mono-citizens, look them up without bail or parole.

This may happen in China or Thailand, but definitely not in the Western nations. The spread of political correctness and the proliferation of human rights organizations have made it impossible even to deport the illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes. If you think that I am over-hyping about the situation, then you can check this link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3702337/We-t-deport-Somali-rapist-preyed-children-Illegal-immigrant-kicked-three-years-ago-allowed-stay-officials-said-war-torn-country-unsafe.html

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on June 19, 2017, 02:22:51 AM

A van has driven into a crowd of worshippers after they left a mosque in north London, killing one man and injuring eight other people in what police described as a “major incident”.

TheGuardian is updating their site with news every a few minutes: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates

This is a terrorist attack and not any major incident in other to coin the event and sugar coat what's going on. This issue is really getting to a head and it seems London is just vulnerable where attacks happen on regular basis. The leaders there just needs to do more in securing the lives and properties of its citizenry and extreme situations like this demands extreme measures that should be taken by the government and of course with the support of the citizens.

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This world is so insane, Truck of Peace hits even Muslims now. No excuses though, Muslim, Christian or whatever, you drive that truck, you should die too.

Quote from: coolcoinz on June 19, 2017, 03:02:40 PM

People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups. For naturalized dual-citizens, revoke citizenship and deport them to their other country. For mono-citizens, look them up without bail or parole.

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This world is so insane, Truck of Peace hits even Muslims now. No excuses though, Muslim, Christian or whatever, you drive that truck, you should die too.

Quote from: coolcoinz on June 19, 2017, 03:02:40 PM

People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups. For naturalized dual-citizens, revoke citizenship and deport them to their other country. For mono-citizens, look them up with bail or parole.

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RIP to the dead. We know the attacker hated Muslims. It just felt weird to see Muslims at the receiving end of a truck attack. It was usually Muslims driving those. Maybe this should be a wake up call for "moderates". Their failure to fight Islamist propaganda is going to hurt them.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

The Westerners should share a part of the blame. But what about countries such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia? During the last three decades, these countries have poured in trillions of USD in to the mosques and madrassas of third world nations, trying to radicalize the youth. Whatever problems they are having in the Muslim nations right now can be attributed to this grand indoctrination plan.

Can't help but agree. These two Arab monarchies have been trying to outplay each other for influence in the Muslim world. Even without any intent at radicalizing Muslims, they supporting warring factions made the Africa and other regions unstable, making radicalization possible on its own.

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There is only one to blame for both attacks which are carried by Muslims and by non Muslims like in this last case. It is the media. The media brainwashes everyone of us and it has impact at everyone of us even if this impact is different in scale in different persons. The peace will be back when Western Countries will stop interfering with Middle Eastern Countries, it is as easy as that. I think my country Italy is a good example at this, we are not interfering with any other country and we mind our own business.

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Quote from: Snail2 on June 19, 2017, 10:02:47 AM

Quote from: craked5 on June 19, 2017, 07:59:56 AM

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards

THE LOGIC

You see I doubt that those kids in Manchester or those tourists in London bombed or killed anyone.

Noooooooooooooooooo
Not at all.
I mean it's not like they elected people who started those wars, paid for the weapons AND the wages of the soldiers, and never said anything against those actions.
Democracy in Europe means you elect representants. If they take action and you don't do or say anything it just means you approve them. Lack of action doesn't make you less guilty.

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Also doubt that this guy in the van looked at his actions in a wider perspective. I guess his logic was that muslims who living between us can go rabid any time and kill our loved ones, so we should take preventive measures.

And maybe that the solution against terrorism, which was created by war and the dozens of thousands of useless meaningless civilians deaths, isn't more useless and meaningless deaths. Maybe the "preventive measures" should be to actually fetch your car and run in your elected assholes who are making money out of the wars conducted currently.

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Perhaps he kept watching the Walking Dead too long.
BTW sooner or later we'll have to kill them all otherwise they will kill us, while cooking their rice on fires made out of paintings of van Gogh and Rembrandt. The only good thing will be that they will clean out the multikulti leftist-liberal scum from Europe as well Wink

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Lol. And why? I mean why should we continue attacking and bombing them? There is 0 reason for that, terrorism and radical islamism started ONLY AFTER the wars. Real terrorists are the USA.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on June 19, 2017, 01:15:30 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

The Westerners should share a part of the blame. But what about countries such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia? During the last three decades, these countries have poured in trillions of USD in to the mosques and madrassas of third world nations, trying to radicalize the youth. Whatever problems they are having in the Muslim nations right now can be attributed to this grand indoctrination plan.

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People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

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I think he was implying that the constant portrayal of ALL Muslims as terrorists in the West has caused Western nutjobs to "take matter into their own hands".

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on June 19, 2017, 01:15:30 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2017, 12:42:55 PM

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

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The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

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Quote from: Snail2 on June 19, 2017, 10:02:47 AM

Quote from: craked5 on June 19, 2017, 07:59:56 AM

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards

THE LOGIC

You see I doubt that those kids in Manchester or those tourists in London bombed or killed anyone. Also doubt that this guy in the van looked at his actions in a wider perspective. I guess his logic was that muslims who living between us can go rabid any time and kill our loved ones, so we should take preventive measures. Perhaps he kept watching the Walking Dead too long.
BTW sooner or later we'll have to kill them all otherwise they will kill us, while cooking their rice on fires made out of paintings of van Gogh and Rembrandt. The only good thing will be that they will clean out the multikulti leftist-liberal scum from Europe as well Wink

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ISIS didn't exist until various countries decided to use the Middle East for their war games, killing thousands of innocent civilians. Given no other choice because they're being screwed over by the West, some people turn to extremism. What happens after that is that the violence starts escalating because each group starts condoning terrorist attacks from their side.

>Muslim person commits terrorist attack

"They're horrible terrorists!"

>Non-muslim person commits terrorist attack

"Serves those bloody [innocent] Muslims right!"

Some people's reasoning is seriously baffling.

Learn your Islamic history before you speak on the subject.

https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

As someone correctly points out in the comments section of the article:

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Hmm, 270 million “killed by jihad” (let’s close our ears and pretend it had nothing to do with the political and ethno-cultural tensions in any of the regions) and still less than the amount killed by the Catholic church, the Soviets and many political leaders, OTHER than Muhammad. Yet, no one mentions those statistics. And what about all the non-Christians killed in the “Christianizing” missions of Europeans? Were those the Crusades redux? By the same logic, then the British and French empires “Crusaders” as felt the “White Man’s Burden” in needing to modernize the ignorant Brown and Black men.

This website is a joke and a thinly-veiled Islamophobic rant (Christians were “martyred”, while other religionists were “killed”?). Good thing intellectuals and academics don’t listen to this kind of hogwash. You all can live in your closed little world thinking that you are important or that anyone really pays attention to your stupidity.

Currently, dramatically more Muslims are being killed by terrorism in the Middle East than Christians, because ISIS and other terrorist groups hate anyone which doesn't agree with their mindset.

Your victimisation complex and your support of terrorism from non-Muslims is insane. You have crazy confirmation biases and no self-awareness.

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Quote from: craked5 on June 19, 2017, 07:59:56 AM

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards

THE LOGIC

You see I doubt that those kids in Manchester or those tourists in London bombed or killed anyone. Also doubt that this guy in the van looked at his actions in a wider perspective. I guess his logic was that muslims who living between us can go rabid any time and kill our loved ones, so we should take preventive measures. Perhaps he kept watching the Walking Dead too long.
BTW sooner or later we'll have to kill them all otherwise they will kill us, while cooking their rice on fires made out of paintings of van Gogh and Rembrandt. The only good thing will be that they will clean out the multikulti leftist-liberal scum from Europe as well Wink

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Quote from: Snail2 on June 19, 2017, 06:48:58 AM

Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on June 19, 2017, 06:27:39 AM

And another attack against the Muslims in the west, in addition to the almost daily a=occurrences of hate attacks fueled by xenophobia and Islamophobia. The rampant negative propaganda against Islam must be blamed for this particular attack.

I'd blame the muslim terrorist themselves, instead. No need for negative propaganda. A collection of uncivilised early medieval tribal customs, represented by a big bunch of savages can earn a bad reputation on it's own.

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards

THE LOGIC

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Quote from: Wayan_Pedjeng on June 19, 2017, 06:27:39 AM

And another attack against the Muslims in the west, in addition to the almost daily a=occurrences of hate attacks fueled by xenophobia and Islamophobia. The rampant negative propaganda against Islam must be blamed for this particular attack.

I'd blame the muslim terrorist themselves, instead. No need for negative propaganda. A collection of uncivilised early medieval tribal customs, represented by a big bunch of savages can earn a bad reputation on it's own.

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And another attack against the Muslims in the west, in addition to the almost daily occurrences of hate attacks fueled by xenophobia and Islamophobia. The rampant negative propaganda against Islam must be blamed for this particular attack.

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This new strategy of the terrorists are working very well, ramming their cars into a crowded place for maximum impact works way better than getting a gun.

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Nothing unexpected. Outside London you can feel a silent but still palpable dislike towards muslims since ages almost everywhere in the UK. After the recent islamist terrorist attacks I'm not surprised if someone tried to retaliate. BTW this was a badly organized, amateurish attempt by some not very smart guy. We'll see if this will turn a tendency or just one of a few isolated cases.

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