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Topic: [Fire] URGENT Rig shutdown just now with a flame, how to find fault ? - page 2. (Read 3167 times)

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Did you find the source of the fire? I recently had one on my 7950 XFX DoubleD catch fire on startup (power on) and can't really figure out what happened

Fires are caused by dust balls building up in the PSU, CPU and GPU heatsink and fans. Buy a can of compressed air and clean them out once a month. Put a smoke alarm near your equipment and never place equipment where fire can spread, near curtains etc.
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Did you find the source of the fire? I recently had one on my 7950 XFX DoubleD catch fire on startup (power on) and can't really figure out what happened, my temps were 80-81c which doesn't seem too bad.
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Are you running the newest ATI drivers?  It should say R9 200 series in GPUZ, then maybe VRM temps will show up on the bottom row.

You can also use HWinfo

Yes the  drivers are the latest Catalyst drivers that came with the cards. The GPU-z is for the 7950 .. below it on the bottom there are two dropdowns for 280x's .. and all three don't show any VRM field.
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Are you running the newest ATI drivers?  It should say R9 200 series in GPUZ, then maybe VRM temps will show up on the bottom row.

You can also use HWinfo
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Cant find VRM on MSI after burner either .... here is the image below while mining. Its been about 24 hours and the rig had a break of 1 hour in between and has been running fine without any overclocking.

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Find out the temps on your VRMs.  

How do I do that ? I have asked the same above. Kindly help. GPU-z is not showing any info on vrm
Perhaps MSI Afterburner or ASUS GpuTweak will show.

Could you please post a screenshot while mining, of the miner and Gpu-z?
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Find out the temps on your VRMs.  

How do I do that ? I have asked the same above. Kindly help. GPU-z is not showing any info on vrm
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Find out the temps on your VRMs. 
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Up to 90ºC on the core and unknown at the VRMs? No risers, no undervolt, no space between cards, accumulating dust?

Understand: you must do _something_ to fix that problem. Not saying that it's ok now, and hope. You're degrading those cards fairly quickly.

Being "maxed out" or not is barely relevant. That "maxed out" is for casual use of the devices as intended (e.g. a few hours a day with 3d gaming loads), not 24/7 mining with the conditions above.

How do I calculate/finout the VRMs ?

I believe 750 for 280x is normal without needing to be undevolted . is it not ?

for 7950 yes I did overclock it to get 650 but that too would be taken care of by the psu which has enough power isnt it ?

The cards have some space between them and with the fan running constantly they are about 80 C for the past few days . now without overclocking it is at about 77-78 currently. The dust part was normal house dust that had accumulated (living tropically).

About these cards 24/7 .. people do it for months together without any problems isn't it ? So mine is just a month old .

And how is one cards overclocking affecting others ? I fail to understand
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Up to 90ºC on the core and unknown at the VRMs? No risers, no undervolt, no space between cards, accumulating dust?

Understand: you must do _something_ to fix that problem. Not saying that it's ok now, and hope. You're degrading those cards fairly quickly.

Being "maxed out" or not is barely relevant. That "maxed out" is for casual use of the devices as intended (e.g. a few hours a day with 3d gaming loads), not 24/7 mining with the conditions above.
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One weird thing I noticed was when overclocking my 7950 , it used to affect both the 280xs ... dont know if that counts or is normal .. but I have failed to find an explanation for that ... seems weird to me how overcloking one can afect hashrate of other cards.
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Oh, I see. Sorry about that...

Ok, skip the bios flashing but it's just that you're pushing the cards to the limits.

Do you have good ventilation? Do you have PCI-e risers so that the cards are spaced? Are the fans running at 70%?

Use at least a large fan (those household ones) blowing at the back of the cards

Yes I have a large fan running on them .. so far its been running smoothly, I think the problem arises either when I overclock the 7950 or if its been running for like say more than 12 hours.

I do not have riser cables. I have had the cards running with the same space between them for about a month now. And these are lower temperatures of 78-80 . There have been days when the cards have touched 90 C due to accumulation of dust. So as of now I don't think they are being maxed out. Also without overclocking 7950 I am getting lesser hashrates right now compared to when overclocking (see above for hashrates).

Also the fans are running at a fairly high % :
7950 - 67% fan
280x - 70%
280x other - 80%

So I thinnk the fan is doing its job.

Do you think getting riser cables might solve the job ? Also I am worried about the burnt carbon smell from one of the 280x I mentioned earlier. How do I diagnose if its ok or not (because apparently its been mining fine now)?
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Oh, I see. Sorry about that...

Ok, skip the bios flashing but it's just that you're pushing the cards to the limits.

Do you have good ventilation? Do you have PCI-e risers so that the cards are spaced? Are the fans running at 70%?

Use at least a large fan (those household ones) blowing at the back of the cards and get PCI-e risers
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Oh ok got the VBE7 - program used to undervolt... I have sapphire trix on my system .. will that do ? and how much should I  set VDDC to for undevolting 7950 and 280x ?
Often the software based do not work. You will have to follow these instructions: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/

Start with VDDC at 1050. You can go lower depending on the quality of the core and voltage regulators

Won't that void my warranty ? Because if something happens I want to be able to claim the card back atleat .. they are only about a month or two old.

Also I have never flashed BIOS before :-(, if something goes wrong I would not know much to undo it.
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So, you insist on running 3 non-undervolted cards side by side without knowing the temperature of the voltage regulators??? I asked you to STOP and follow my advice. The intent of that rushed post was clear. Yet you ignored it... Good luck, I guess

It happened before too and then worked fine for another day. So I thought it would be ok to run it without overclocking. I value your advice but its just that I have made too much of an investment in these cards and I want to run them to get the return as much as possible.

I want to know a way to get to the root of the problem. How do you suggest I find out the VRM , GPUz does not show it ? And does not cgminer show the temperature correct ?

Please correct me if I am wrong on anything. Dont mean no disrecpect bro.

Also when you say run 3 non-undervolted cards side by side - are you implying something to do with PSU ? because its a 1250 Watt PSU. Or is there some other rationale ?
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Then use one card at a time.

First of all, lower your target temperature from 80ºC to 70ºC on miner config

Load GPU-z and select the "Sensors" tab. Scroll down to see the VRM temperature. Then, load you miner software with intensity = 8 and start mining. Raise intensity bit by bit and check those temperatures!

Are you undervolting the cards? If not, do so with VBE7

Actually I have all 3 cards running now. I was earlier overclocking the 7950 and that seemed to make an impact on the other 280xs hashrate as well. Weird.

I have not undervolted any of the cards. Now the cards are running at about 80% +- 5 fanspeed. And this time I have not overclocked the 7950.

I have GPU-z loaded now and had it earlier too. For one of the 280x it shows VDCC from 1.056 V to 1.044 V.

About the VRM I can not find that in GPU-z under sensors. All I see is voltages and fan speed, etc

Hashrates now are :

280x - 710 khps earlier was 750 khps (when 7950 was overclocked to E - 1020 M - 1420)
280x - 690 khps earlier was 750 khps (when 7950 was overclocked to E - 1020 M - 1420)
7950 - 560 khps earlier was 650 khps (when 7950 was overclocked to E - 1020 M - 1420)

So they are not running at full speed. About the temperature : They have always run @75 + ... right now at about 78-79 ish and I always have a fan blowing air on them.

Since my cards are not undervolted .. what do you mean by VBE7 ?

So, you insist on running 3 non-undervolted cards side by side without knowing the temperature of the voltage regulators??? I asked you to STOP and follow my advice. The intent of that rushed post was clear. Yet you ignored it... Good luck, I guess
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Oh ok got the VBE7 - program used to undervolt... I have sapphire trix on my system .. will that do ? and how much should I  set VDDC to for undevolting 7950 and 280x ?
Often the software based do not work. You will have to follow these instructions: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/vbe7-vbios-editor-for-radeon-hd-7000-series-cards.189089/

Start with VDDC at 1050. You can go lower depending on the quality of the core and voltage regulators
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What brand of power supply are you using?

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What brand of power supply are you using?
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Is there any way to know a GPU is faulty/burnt besides smelling it ?
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