Topic: Firearms Policy (Read 309 times)

But home invasions are illegal.. The government already stopped them..

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^^^ No restrictions on private property, except if they are a direct threat, or if they are used to harm a man/woman or their property... 4th and 9th Amendments. And no restrictions on traveling with your private property... 1st Amendment.

Owning a gun is not the real problem in the post, owning is also possible in whole lot of countries in the world. It is the policies that binds it. Access to firearms in the US is so much easier than the rest of the world, that even a young teens can own one. Maybe culture is a factor for the difference in the law, but it is not an excuse to make guns available in freaking supermarkets.

Also, it is not about taking away the "GUNS" literally, it is about the restrictions and rules regarding owning a gun specifically

I agree with you the gun laws depend on a culture. If a culture came from a long line of hunters or soldiers, then guns are very important for the people of that country.  It would be hard to imagine taking the guns of the people away if they fought for their privilege to own them in the first place. I think that it is possible to limit the sell of guns for the future, but taking away guns (some of which might be antiques with a lot of value) seems nearly impossible in todays world. The only way would be for the government to pay a big premium for every gun taking away.

It all comes down to culture obviously. Because culture is what drives the mindset of people in a specific community or country along with long time existing traditions. These two are the main things that shape the children along with the environment that influences the children. But even so, good or bad governance made possible by great or awful leaders are also vital ingredients to what a country currently is and how people in a specific country acts towards laws, families, fellow countrymen and foreigners.

Buying a gun is easy though either in a legal or illegal way as long as you have money. And in US you will be denied for FFL if you misconduct gun and use it for unnecessary purposes, or atleast as per the laws.

Don't get so patriotic that you stop officers on the street just to tell them that.

"I'm not carrtying this wasp spray for self-defense, officer. I'm just really concerned. Concerned about wasps!

It’s not so simple as just ordering them online in the US..

We use all the bullets/ammo we want and don’t report buying them or using them in any manner..

It even more simple, you can simply order the guns in online and it will arrive at your doorstep, no need to visit the shops anymore.

But , even if you have a gun in a legal way means you can't simply shoot anyone without valid reasons, its for your self defence but you need to report the usage of bullets in case if you used it or else the license will be cancelled.

Wasp spray can take down a grown man and if your country has a ban on pepper spray/tasers you can use that for self defense.

The only problem comes about when people don't know how to take their elected officials to court, or at least recall them out of office. With a little legal manipulation, anybody can get this before a jury.

Remember:
1. The 4th Amendment allows you to have private property.
2. The 1st Amendment allows you to travel with it ^.
3. The 9th Amendment allows you to have any rights you want.
4. The 2nd Amendment allows you to take down Government with guns.


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Yes, that’s why we are not afraid of guns..

If they didn’t have guns they would probably make more bombs.. Bombs are scarier..

If someone chooses guns to “kill innocent people”, then be glad they chose guns because it could easily be much worse..

They could easily have chosen bombs or poisons/poison gasses that could be far more devastating, and probably cheaper than buying guns anyway..

Oh yes BTW.. It is also legal in the USA to obtain and possess all/any of the required information/instructions on how to make bombs and poison gasses..
1st amendment baby!

It is also completely legal in the USA to make your own guns from scratch and never tell a soul about them.. Completely legal..
It’s also legal to 3D print guns, and legal to have and give/receive 3D printing code of guns.. (1st amendment)

(Not legal to make most bombs/poisons though, but the information to is completely legal as are most of the needed components)


And your worried about guns? LOL no..


Crazy people are going to be crazy..
It’s just lucky that most homicidal crazy people are also not very smart, or their damages would be much worse, and they’d also probably get away with it..

We haven’t seen a decently or orchestrated attack since like 9/11..
Even that Nashville bombing and Boston bombing were.. Not very successful..
The Oakland a city bombing was quite destructive.. The last one I can think of in the USA that was worth worrying about other than 9/11..


A few people get killed here and there in the USA, but look what happens in the Middle East with markets getting blown to smithereens all the time..


Yeah.. The only reason people here would be worried about guns is fear propaganda..

But the point is, it is "ILLEGAL". Yes you can acquire such weapon but in illegal way. Unlike in the latter where you can even purchase a gun in a supermarket? really though.


? where's the context behind those 500,000 getting shot if the guns are banned/ or shall we say a better weapon policy is implemented.
Because you are saying something on a baseless conclusion, and countries all over the world have already proven that having a strict weapon policy doesn't lead to such things as "500,000" getting shotted.


That is the very reason, why people in your country is very comfortable holding and shooting the guns without any kind of fear. That is the very reason why your states has different incidents of mass shootings and such. Because they are too used to guns that it is like a normal thing to fire them anywhere, anytime


LoL, who says that people in other countries can't have guns? lmao

We can have guns to use for sports and not for killing innocent lives though

Everyone else is just jealous they can’t have guns..
“If I can’t have it, you shouldn’t either”


Crime rate?
Firearms adding to crime rates can be BTFO by statistics no problem, but even IF guns increased crime or deaths in any way..

Gun rights are worth more than 100,000 lives a year..
Even if 100,000 people died a year because “Goons R bad” then I’d still rather have the guns..
We have spent way more lives protecting our freedoms than that, and will do it again..

You worried about 50 people getting shot?
Try taking the guns and watch 500,000 people get shot..
Is it worth a war to you?

Pro tip.. Don’t be a ghetto gangster or other such criminal and your chances of ever getting shot are astronomically slim..


Most of us have been shooting guns longer and from a younger age then driving cars..
We teach our kids from a very early age to shoot with BB guns and such, and have them shooting high powered rifles and shotguns when their like 10..

AR-15?
LOW powered rifle and extremely easy for young people to shoot.. Soft gun..
They are so low powered that they are considered too small to even shoot deer with..

Try shooting something like a 300 Win mag bolt gun (deer gun).. See what kind of damage something like THAT can do, and then get back to me about how scary you think a tiny .223”/5.57mm is..

Full metal jacket rounds?
Designed NOT to kill, LOL.. Seriously.. Look it up..
The rounds we hunt animals with, the ones actually designed to kill, are against the Geneva convention to use in war..
Did you know?

“Military rounds” - much much more likely to survive than hunting rounds..

If you want to compare even a relatively “not scary” 30-30 hunting round to a AR-15 “military round”.. The 30-30 does probably on the order of 10X more damage easily..

You’d probably survive getting shot in the gut with an AR-15, just makes a little hole.. (that’s the point, in military combat it’s better to keep them busy trying to save people)
A “hunting gun” with hunting ammunition? You’d have a hole in your back you could stick your fist in.. Ya ain’t gonna live..

Those countries are old fashioned and never wants their people to take control over anything but surely it is possible to buy a pistol or auto guns in the black market for cheaper price and they can even use it too, so all they need is money to get the power.

In the foundational documents of the USA...

The 4th Amendment says people can have their private property. It doesn't suggest any limits on what their private property might be. Guns are private property.

The 1st Amendment has been court adjudicated to include the right to travel. And this travel is allowed across the States. And it includes traveling with private property... guns included.

The 2nd Amendment essentially says guns almost point blank. Do you know what the main reason for 2nd Amendment guns is? To put down rebellion by the Federal Government, and maybe the State governments, as well.

The 9th Amendment says that any rights that are not listed to be ours through the wording of the Constitution, are ours for the asserting and taking.

The USA is a nation adhering to the ownership and use, when appropriate, of guns and other arms.

Given the current trade war situation between china and the united states over firearms control there are arguments for chinese technology companies to separate business from china or move out of china. In this case, Singapore can be their ideal place due to the improved financial and legal system the western countries are able to rely on singapore there are offices of many western organizations including the united states. So chinese companies are now heading to singapore he noted that the controversy surrounding gun rights was completely unfounded the second amendment to the us constitution guarantees the right of citizens to bear arms.

China is a different story, they will throw people in jail for whatever reason they feel like so obviously firearms are out of the question. China wouldn't want their citizens to be armed of course, that'd give them too much leverage. So gun control is easy.

India has some firearms, they're just illegal. In India, you can just bribe your way past any law because the police are so corrupt. I can't imagine their enforcement of firearms being strict.

This is besides the point, back on the US -- The US has something like 300 million guns out there floating around. You can't just confiscate all of them, it doesn't work like that. You'll end up having criminals retain their guns while law abiding citizens give up theirs.